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ultrarunner Nov 17th 2011 2:15 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 9738460)
Where ever you are from people will call you what they want and you either go with it, or get your toys and fk off home.

I believe that is part of the BNP's platform too :thumbdown:

el_richo Nov 17th 2011 2:28 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ireland2canada (Post 9738469)
It's not really the done thing to go around referring to people as "that black bloke" or similar

I did that just last night. We had our friends over for dinner (they live in the same building) and one mentioned the "new" MG parked in the underground area and was curious who it belonged to.

I finally said "the black fella upstairs" when his name didn't ring any bells.

magnumpi Nov 17th 2011 3:05 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738525)
I believe that is part of the BNP's platform too :thumbdown:

Whatever :blink:

None of this extra drivel is helping Tony Tiger find his new place of residence is it.

Tony-the-Tigger Nov 17th 2011 4:15 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 
Oops! Didn't mean to start a discussion about colours and shades. I think the acceptable term for the large population in Brampton is South Asian. BTW, I have absolutely no problem with Brampton or South Asians. In fact I stayed there for a few days recently in a hotel on Queen Street East and found all the people I met there to be very polite and welcoming. They had as much of a problem understanding me as I them and it was a good laugh.

My real name is Anthony (Tony) for those who doubted! And you guessed right, it was an Italian owned company who offered me a job.

All of you who posted info. Thanks for the tips about Bolton and Orangeville. I didn't realise Bolton was predominantly Italian even though I briefly spent some time there when I was over. Nor did I know Orangeville has exBramptonites. It is only recently that it came under my radar. To be honest, the name put me off in the past. Some of you may get that!

To anyone who is wondering why I'm avoiding Woodbridge, it's because my potential Italian boss told me to avoid it as there are too many snobby Italians there! Go figure - he lives there.

Bolton is not far from Brampton facilities inc. Hospital and a 1/2 hour drive to Vaughan Mills mall. I've not been to Orangeville as I said earlier so I've been relying on google maps and searches to find out what's there. Unless I'm wrong, I see no mall or any decent retail area. Are we talking about an hours drive to the nearest indoor mall? This info is crucial for keeping the better half happy!

dbd33 Nov 17th 2011 4:32 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by Tony-the-Tigger (Post 9738738)
To be honest, the name put me off in the past. Some of you may get that!

It's named for the founder, Bill Orange or Orange Le Seul Fruit, or something, not for any more sinister reason. There is, however a long history of sectarian tension in Ontario. There's a shop up by Shelburne that once had a door in a green wall and one in an orange wall so they could sell to all residents. There are still orange lodges in many locations though I think they're all north of Orangeville. None of that's an issue in Bolton or Brampton, obviously.


Originally Posted by Tony-the-Tigger (Post 9738738)
Unless I'm wrong, I see no mall or any decent retail area. Are we talking about an hours drive to the nearest indoor mall? This info is crucial for keeping the better half happy!

There's an indoor mall in Orangeville, it looks small all run down but I don't do malls, or shopping even, and so can't really judge. The nearest Costco is in Brampton. Islandview Farm Equipment, just north of Orangeville is, otoh, an excellent facility.

ultrarunner Nov 17th 2011 5:33 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by Tony-the-Tigger (Post 9738738)
Oops! Didn't mean to start a discussion about colours and shades. I think the acceptable term for the large population in Brampton is South Asian. BTW, I have absolutely no problem with Brampton or South Asians. In fact I stayed there for a few days recently in a hotel on Queen Street East and found all the people I met there to be very polite and welcoming. They had as much of a problem understanding me as I them and it was a good laugh.

My real name is Anthony (Tony) for those who doubted! And you guessed right, it was an Italian owned company who offered me a job.

All of you who posted info. Thanks for the tips about Bolton and Orangeville. I didn't realise Bolton was predominantly Italian even though I briefly spent some time there when I was over. Nor did I know Orangeville has exBramptonites. It is only recently that it came under my radar. To be honest, the name put me off in the past. Some of you may get that!

To anyone who is wondering why I'm avoiding Woodbridge, it's because my potential Italian boss told me to avoid it as there are too many snobby Italians there! Go figure - he lives there.

Bolton is not far from Brampton facilities inc. Hospital and a 1/2 hour drive to Vaughan Mills mall. I've not been to Orangeville as I said earlier so I've been relying on google maps and searches to find out what's there. Unless I'm wrong, I see no mall or any decent retail area. Are we talking about an hours drive to the nearest indoor mall? This info is crucial for keeping the better half happy!


Tony Tone.....Are you a made man yet, and happen to be in the waste disposal business? :rofl:

Vaughn Mills malls is huge, but parking can be a bitch if you go on weekends

Oakvillian Nov 17th 2011 5:36 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9737417)
OP.....I am glad a newbie like yourself is able to spot what you did here.

Anyway, there are many areas close to or around TO, the ones you mentioned are good and affordable, but there is also the other side ( eastwards ), places like Ajax or SW into Milton that will get you into TO in about 0.5hrs on a good day


Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738269)
You are right Geezer....that poster said "middle eastern" are all over Brampton? Orangeville has caucasians that got bumped from Mississauga and Brampton back in the day.

Groups get lumped into middle eastern category with slight inclination towards Islam or certain looks. I have heard people call North Africans, middle eastern people


Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738278)
Brown People....Really? I'll like to know your naming for someone of mixed race


Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738287)
I'll take that as tongue in cheek and you don't go round using derogatory names for people that don't look like you?


Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738358)
Ever tried using the term "Bi-racial" instead, or when was the last time you saw Beige or Brown on any official forms asking about your origin or colour?

Anyway....Bolton, Vaughan and Woodbridge all have heavy Italian population


Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738401)
So for simplicity sake, ignoring what anyone looks like, using their Nationality should be just fine then?

Correct me if am wrong, "us Brits" come in different flavours afterall?


Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738525)
I believe that is part of the BNP's platform too :thumbdown:

I wouldn't normally bother getting all ad-hominem - least of all with this particular poster. But this collection of drivel has really raised my hackles.

What good are Ajax and its environs to somebody with a job in Woodbridge? What has the commuting time from Milton to Toronto to do with anything relevant (quite aside from the pie-in-the sky notion that half an hour will suffice)?

As to all the racial nonsense: it's OK for you to say that "caucasians ... got bumped from Brampton and Mississauga" with all the negative connotations of that passive verb (that somehow they were forced out by the marauding hordes of south Asians?); yet you call others out for using descriptive words for people's skin colour? How bloody hypocritical. I worked for a large Indian (as in from the Subcontinent) company; most of the employees would happily describe themselves as "brown" - it's not a word that has ever really been used pejoratively in racist terms, and has been successfully "claimed" by people of a wide region of the Indian subcontinent, the Middle and Near East (a Turkish Kurd I know well describes himself thus), and, increasingly, North Africa, to use as a self-descriptor without overtones of a value-judgement.

Only you brought up racism and the BNP. Everybody else on the thread was having a sensible discussion. Admittedly, not that much of it was immediately helpful to the OP, but that's the nature of forum discussions.

Oakvillian Nov 17th 2011 5:37 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738859)
Tony Tone.....Are you a made man yet, and happen to be in the waste disposal business? :rofl:

Vaughn Mills malls is huge, but parking can be a bitch if you go on weekends

Good God! And you have the gall to accuse others of racial stereotyping?

<wanders off shaking head in disbelief>

ultrarunner Nov 17th 2011 6:15 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 9738868)
Good God! And you have the gall to accuse others of racial stereotyping?

<wanders off shaking head in disbelief>

Have you come up for air yet? All that verbal diarrhoea didn't yield a single valid point IMHO. Official forms have the term Caucasian on them but not Brown.

Yes I mentioned BNP, because a poster made a comment "like what you are called or f' off" something along those lines

el_richo Nov 17th 2011 6:43 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738943)
Have you come up for air yet? All that verbal diarrhoea didn't yield a single valid point IMHO. Official forms have the term Caucasian on them but not Brown.

Stats Canada asks:

19. Is this person:

Mark more than one or specify, if applicable.

This information is collected in accordance with the Employment Equity Act and its Regulations and Guidelines to support programs that promote equal opportunity for everyone to share in the social, cultural, and economic life of Canada.

White
South Asian (e.g., East Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lankan, etc.)
Chinese
Black
Filipino
Latin American
Arab
Southeast Asian (e.g., Vietnamese, Cambodian, Malaysian, Laotian, etc.)
West Asian (e.g., Iranian, Afghan, etc.)
Korean
Japanese
Other - Specify


http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/NHS-ENM/r...NM-eng.cfm#Q17

I don't think i've ever filled out an application for that asks if i'm Caucasian. You're right there's no brown but an Indian friend of mine considers himself Brown and another bi-racial friend often tells people he's Mocha. What should i tell them when i see them later this afternoon?

ireland2canada Nov 17th 2011 6:51 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 9739002)
What should i tell them when i see them later this afternoon?

Tell them that they are massive racists, mumble about the BNP, put your fingers in your ears and deny all rational thought.

Hope that helps.

R I C H Nov 17th 2011 7:04 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738943)
Have you come up for air yet? All that verbal diarrhoea didn't yield a single valid point IMHO. Official forms have the term Caucasian on them but not Brown.

Is your normal means of casually conversing with someone couched in official form language?

I work at a university, and the cultural diversity here is very obvious, with 4,000 foreign students representing 40+ countries. We don't walk around talking about them in terms of 'the Afro-Caribbean kid', or the 'central, south American'. The actual skin colour doesn't matter, it's just casual visual identifier, like someone with a green t-shirt.

chelle784 Nov 22nd 2011 9:14 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 
HAHA! this thread was amusing, mainly because I couldn't tell whether people were being serious or not. This is the internet afterall.

BTW I would not get offended if someone called me brown. (I have south asian heritage)

km1 Nov 27th 2011 10:21 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 
To the OP

Hello there Tony, Congratulations on getting a job offer.

If you do not mind living being a wee bit remote then anywhere north of highway 9 about 15 mind north of Bolton could be an option, houses are a wee bit cheaper . 400 for commute can be a problem, but there are a few alternatives if travelling to Woodbridge, hwy27, Weston rd etc.

I used/to live in Burlington area and although there were malls etc it took about 30 minutes in traffic to get to them, but if I drive the same 20 - 30 minutes on country roads, (no traffic maybe the odd tractor though) then Bolton, Allison, Orangeville, and Newmarket are all quite easy to access and easy parking, good for shopping, a decent selection of independent stores, butchers, bakeries, and some British stores for the chocolates and proper foods etc. as well as Upper Canada mall and ALL the big Box stores etc.

just a my 2cents

thanks

km1

Oakvillian Nov 27th 2011 2:39 pm

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by km1 (Post 9756851)
To the OP

Hello there Tony, Congratulations on getting a job offer.

If you do not mind living being a wee bit remote then anywhere north of highway 9 about 15 mind north of Bolton could be an option, houses are a wee bit cheaper . 400 for commute can be a problem, but there are a few alternatives if travelling to Woodbridge, hwy27, Weston rd etc.

I used/to live in Burlington area and although there were malls etc it took about 30 minutes in traffic to get to them, but if I drive the same 20 - 30 minutes on country roads, (no traffic maybe the odd tractor though) then Bolton, Allison, Orangeville, and Newmarket are all quite easy to access and easy parking, good for shopping, a decent selection of independent stores, butchers, bakeries, and some British stores for the chocolates and proper foods etc. as well as Upper Canada mall and ALL the big Box stores etc.

just a my 2cents

thanks

km1

I'm intrigued by your implication that you need to go to a British store for "proper food." What is it that the rest of us eat, who do not frequent such emporia?


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