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ultrarunner Nov 16th 2011 11:53 pm

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ireland2canada (Post 9738281)
Beige?

Back on topic, I quite like Orangeville. I've never been to Woodbridge and have no idea why the OP would not just live there for a bit. But Orangeville is fine.

Hope that helps.

I'll take that as tongue in cheek and you don't go round using derogatory names for people that don't look like you?

magnumpi Nov 16th 2011 11:55 pm

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738278)
Brown People....Really? I'll like to know your naming for someone of mixed race

Ha ha you talk to the brown kids and thats what they call themselves. Lets not go all politicaly correct during the holiday season ehh.

Shuda, a lad in my sons soccer team prefers to be called brown (he is East Indian). As he says he aint black. He ask my lad if there any brown girls at his school. Lol. So it not directly my decription. Ok

dbd33 Nov 17th 2011 12:14 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 9738296)
Ha ha you talk to the brown kids and thats what they call themselves. Lets not go all politicaly correct duting the holiday season ehh.

A friend's children describe themselves as "Proudly Beige".

The major differences between Bolton and Orangeville are, I think, are:

Bolton's a suburb, Orangeville's a town, there's actual grass between Orangeville and the concrete of Toronto.

Bolton's predominantly Italian, Orangeville a mixture of redneck and Brit.

I don't know about the politics of Bolton but Orangeville's, not surprisingly, a hard right wing place. An evening in The Deck will provide a feel for the mood. Oddly though, it seems gay indifferent, some acquantainces there have set up their house as if it was whisked in from Oz without upsetting the neighbours.

I think that development at the top of the hill on highway 10, the one with the "Orangeville Town of Whatever" sign on it, is one of the ugliest in the GTA, it's a shame because it's the first thing you see. Beyond that the town has some nice parts, in the centre and out by Island Lake. Lots of restaurants for a town of that size though the good Thai seems to have gone bust.

ireland2canada Nov 17th 2011 12:20 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738287)
I'll take that as tongue in cheek and you don't go round using derogatory names for people that don't look like you?

Tongue in cheek, correct. Just houmour you see, there's nothing wrong with describing someone as black, beige or white. The words themselves pose no problem.

If you mix brown and white (for example), my idea of what that colour may look like is beige. Of course, that could be used to describe a person, a sofa or a car. With no attached malice or derogatory implications.

What colour am I, then?

magnumpi Nov 17th 2011 12:24 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ireland2canada (Post 9738346)
Tongue in cheek, correct. Just houmour you see, there's nothing wrong with describing someone as black, beige or white. The words themselves pose no problem.

If you mix brown and white (for example), my idea of what that colour may look like is beige. Of course, that could be used to describe a person, a sofa or a car. With no attached malice or derogatory implications.

What colour am I, then?

Green?

ultrarunner Nov 17th 2011 12:25 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 
Ever tried using the term "Bi-racial" instead, or when was the last time you saw Beige or Brown on any official forms asking about your origin or colour?

Anyway....Bolton, Vaughan and Woodbridge all have heavy Italian population

magnumpi Nov 17th 2011 12:31 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738358)
Ever tried using the term "Bi-racial" instead

That just dont sound right. Ive never heard anyone in my mix of friends say they are Bi~racial.

Anyhow the OP, with the name Tony, is well suited to live in Vaughan as Utra has stated above.

ireland2canada Nov 17th 2011 12:35 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 9738352)
Green?

;)


Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738358)
Ever tried using the term "Bi-racial" instead, or when was the last time you saw Beige or Brown on any official forms asking about your origin or colour?

Anyway....Bolton, Vaughan and Woodbridge all have heavy Italian population

No, I don't think I've ever used that phrase. I'd just say "of mixed race", most likely. If I was talking to a person I would just ask where they are from or what their background is. I chatted with a nurse yesterday from Malta and another from Pakistan. Neither got all uppity about labels or official "descriptions on forms" and neither was I. They asked where I was from and I did the same. Then again, there's a difference between every day chit chat and form filling.

dbd33 Nov 17th 2011 12:35 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 9738364)
That just dont sound right. Ive never heard anyone in my mix of friends say they are Bi~racial.

Nor me though I did know a beige bisexual at one time.

ultrarunner Nov 17th 2011 12:47 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ireland2canada (Post 9738369)
;)



No, I don't think I've ever used that phrase. I'd just say "of mixed race", most likely. If I was talking to a person I would just ask where they are from or what their background is. I chatted with a nurse yesterday from Malta and another from Pakistan. Neither got all uppity about labels or official "descriptions on forms" and neither was I. They asked where I was from and I did the same. Then again, there's a difference between every day chit chat and form filling.

So for simplicity sake, ignoring what anyone looks like, using their Nationality should be just fine then?

Correct me if am wrong, "us Brits" come in different flavours afterall?

dbd33 Nov 17th 2011 12:54 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738401)
So for simplicity sake, ignoring what anyone looks like, using their Nationality should be just fine then?

For what purpose?

Most people here are of complex nationality, My Dad's X, my Mum's Y, I was born here so I also have a Canadian passport, do you say "look out for him at the pub, he's an X-Y-Canadian"? Of course not, but you might say "he's brown" or "he looks Indian".

ireland2canada Nov 17th 2011 1:05 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 9738401)
So for simplicity sake, ignoring what anyone looks like, using their Nationality should be just fine then?

Correct me if am wrong, "us Brits" come in different flavours afterall?

You are free to describe people however you wish? If you would like to refer to someone as being brown, or British or whatever then that's no bother to me. Unless the person being described is sensitive about you doing so, then I can't imagine that would be a problem to them either.

If I am in a group of people who are all from the same place, I have no problem with them using my nationality by way of describing me to people who don't know me by name.

If someone described you as "that <insert nationality here> bloke" or "that <insert colour here> bloke", would you be offended? If so, why? We are assuming here that the words are just descriptive words, not being used with malice.

magnumpi Nov 17th 2011 1:16 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 
We get called "bloody Brits" constantly at soccer.

Just last night all of my lads team voted to play next season on turf field (plastic grass) all but my lad who wanted to play on real grass. Coach turned around and said "bloody brits will play on any old crappy field" and we all laughed.

Where ever you are from people will call you what they want and you either go with it, or get your toys and fk off home.

Almost Canadian Nov 17th 2011 1:16 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by ireland2canada (Post 9738434)
If someone described you as "that <insert nationality here> bloke" or "that <insert colour here> bloke", would you be offended? If so, why? We are assuming here that the words are just descriptive words, not being used with malice.

There are many on this site that would criticize such descriptions. I have used your argument many times in the past and have been shot down for doing so. Apparently, describing someone by reference to the colour of their skin (without malice) is totally unacceptable.

ireland2canada Nov 17th 2011 1:25 am

Re: Somewhere to live around Toronto
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9738462)
There are many on this site that would criticize such descriptions. I have used your argument many times in the past and have been shot down for doing so. Apparently, describing someone by reference to the colour of their skin (without malice) is totally unacceptable.

Oh I realise that he is just trying to get an argument, trying to point the racist finger, it's so easy on the internet to be deliberately obtuse. I asked a simple question though, it would be nice if the poster answered it in a simple, honest fashion. He also made an assumption as to what colour I am, he has yet to address that one.

It's not really the done thing to go around referring to people as "that black bloke" or similar, but there's a world of difference between being disparaging towards someone because of their background, and simply using a descriptive word. Like beige, for a hypothetical person invented on the internet who is mixed race.

Preaching to the choir, of course.


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