Socialised healthcare..... really?
#16
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
I thought I heard last time I visited Canada that Alberta either had or was planning to abolish the top up premiums. [sorry, already covered in post nr 8]
My understanding (from discussion with Public Health Dr in BC) is that it is heavily subsidised but not free in BC.
Admittedly, dental treatment is becoming more difficult in the UK too, as many 'NHS' dentists have filled their NHS allowances & only take on new private patients - it can be location dependent. At mine, even though registered as a NHS patient if I miss 2 appointments I am kicked out & would be back to searching for another NHS spot or go fully private.
I already know those who take out insurance to cover dental care in the UK as a result or use work benefits to cover it.
My understanding (from discussion with Public Health Dr in BC) is that it is heavily subsidised but not free in BC.
Admittedly, dental treatment is becoming more difficult in the UK too, as many 'NHS' dentists have filled their NHS allowances & only take on new private patients - it can be location dependent. At mine, even though registered as a NHS patient if I miss 2 appointments I am kicked out & would be back to searching for another NHS spot or go fully private.
I already know those who take out insurance to cover dental care in the UK as a result or use work benefits to cover it.
Last edited by Bali2010; Dec 23rd 2009 at 12:46 am. Reason: added comments in brackets
#17
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,054
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
I thought I heard last time I visited Canada that Alberta either had or was planning to abolish the top up premiums. [sorry, already covered in post nr 8]
My understanding (from discussion with Public Health Dr in BC) is that it is heavily subsidised but not free in BC.
Admittedly, dental treatment is becoming more difficult in the UK too, as many 'NHS' dentists have filled their NHS allowances & only take on new private patients - it can be location dependent. At mine, even though registered as a NHS patient if I miss 2 appointments I am kicked out & would be back to searching for another NHS spot or go fully private.
I already know those who take out insurance to cover dental care in the UK as a result or use work benefits to cover it.
My understanding (from discussion with Public Health Dr in BC) is that it is heavily subsidised but not free in BC.
Admittedly, dental treatment is becoming more difficult in the UK too, as many 'NHS' dentists have filled their NHS allowances & only take on new private patients - it can be location dependent. At mine, even though registered as a NHS patient if I miss 2 appointments I am kicked out & would be back to searching for another NHS spot or go fully private.
I already know those who take out insurance to cover dental care in the UK as a result or use work benefits to cover it.
I;ve always had decent health benefits with any company I've worked for. Any half decent co will provide some sort of coverage. It's as common here as negotiating salary. I think people tend to not factor in standard coverage when looking for a job - its the norm here.
Last edited by dboy; Dec 23rd 2009 at 1:56 am.
#18
Banned
Joined: Jul 2009
Location: The City by the Mall
Posts: 862
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
Not to mention the state of NHS dental care is at best, average. It appears to be that many Brits view the dentist as something that they have to do after putting it off as long as they are humanly able to do. Standard of dental health seems to be better here, I know mine has been.
#19
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
It was a bit of a surprise to hear that my teeth, (considered to be pretty fine specimens by my old UK dentist) left much to be desired according to the Canadian dentist, who was eager to take all of my money.
Whilst completely straight, virtually all present and correct and only a bit 'off white', they certainly didn't suffer close scrutiny. It was depressing to say the least, to watch the product of the video camera surveying my molars on the TV monitor, especially as a mere cavity cost almost 300 notes!
I have no doubt that Canadian quality of life being superior to that of the average Limey, is at least in part thanks to its medical provision; but this didn't soften the blow of receiving an invoice for $1200 for 'free' health cover, especially as our collective income falls short of $30k right now!
Whilst completely straight, virtually all present and correct and only a bit 'off white', they certainly didn't suffer close scrutiny. It was depressing to say the least, to watch the product of the video camera surveying my molars on the TV monitor, especially as a mere cavity cost almost 300 notes!
I have no doubt that Canadian quality of life being superior to that of the average Limey, is at least in part thanks to its medical provision; but this didn't soften the blow of receiving an invoice for $1200 for 'free' health cover, especially as our collective income falls short of $30k right now!
#20
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,054
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
It was a bit of a surprise to hear that my teeth, (considered to be pretty fine specimens by my old UK dentist) left much to be desired according to the Canadian dentist, who was eager to take all of my money.
Whilst completely straight, virtually all present and correct and only a bit 'off white', they certainly didn't suffer close scrutiny. It was depressing to say the least, to watch the product of the video camera surveying my molars on the TV monitor, especially as a mere cavity cost almost 300 notes!
I have no doubt that Canadian quality of life being superior to that of the average Limey, is at least in part thanks to its medical provision; but this didn't soften the blow of receiving an invoice for $1200 for 'free' health cover, especially as our collective income falls short of $30k right now!
Whilst completely straight, virtually all present and correct and only a bit 'off white', they certainly didn't suffer close scrutiny. It was depressing to say the least, to watch the product of the video camera surveying my molars on the TV monitor, especially as a mere cavity cost almost 300 notes!
I have no doubt that Canadian quality of life being superior to that of the average Limey, is at least in part thanks to its medical provision; but this didn't soften the blow of receiving an invoice for $1200 for 'free' health cover, especially as our collective income falls short of $30k right now!
#21
Just Joined
Joined: Dec 2009
Location: Halifax, NS
Posts: 24
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
My UK dentist would take one look at my teeth, say "Great!" and she'd usher me out within a minute.
When my Canadian dentist looked inside my mouth, he had a fit. A filling my old dentist had done on a cracked wisdom tooth has caused a huge hole in the next tooth along.
Wisdom teeth got yanked out, and there's a big root canal job on the way with my name on it... I feel like sending my old dentist the bloody bill!
When my Canadian dentist looked inside my mouth, he had a fit. A filling my old dentist had done on a cracked wisdom tooth has caused a huge hole in the next tooth along.
Wisdom teeth got yanked out, and there's a big root canal job on the way with my name on it... I feel like sending my old dentist the bloody bill!
#22
slanderer of the innocent
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 6,695
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
I agree, the dental care is great.
benefit coverage through work is really variable though. If you're self-employed, which OH has been for years, you pay for it out of your own pocket.
benefit coverage through work is really variable though. If you're self-employed, which OH has been for years, you pay for it out of your own pocket.
#23
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
My UK dentist would take one look at my teeth, say "Great!" and she'd usher me out within a minute.
When my Canadian dentist looked inside my mouth, he had a fit. A filling my old dentist had done on a cracked wisdom tooth has caused a huge hole in the next tooth along.
Wisdom teeth got yanked out, and there's a big root canal job on the way with my name on it... I feel like sending my old dentist the bloody bill!
When my Canadian dentist looked inside my mouth, he had a fit. A filling my old dentist had done on a cracked wisdom tooth has caused a huge hole in the next tooth along.
Wisdom teeth got yanked out, and there's a big root canal job on the way with my name on it... I feel like sending my old dentist the bloody bill!
#24
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 1,664
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
I do find, however good the dentists are here, that they just HAVE TO carry out a series of X-rays and dear knows what other examinations (all chargeable, of course!) before they can actually get on with the job .... I fear, not always necessary, but Canadians do seem to love undergoing medical examinations, so don't question it.
#25
Account Closed
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 7,284
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
I do find, however good the dentists are here, that they just HAVE TO carry out a series of X-rays and dear knows what other examinations (all chargeable, of course!) before they can actually get on with the job .... I fear, not always necessary, but Canadians do seem to love undergoing medical examinations, so don't question it.
#26
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,227
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
I think this is a very british thing. We expect the doctor to mostly do nothing except say come back if it's still a problem in a week or that it's probably stress. Maybe this is due to the nature of the funding for medication and canadians expect value for money on their insurance payments.
#27
Forum Regular
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Starbuck Manitoba then Brum, UK, Oz and now UK
Posts: 283
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
there are no monthly fees payable in Manitoba.
Alberta also recently did away with theirs so I heard
Alberta also recently did away with theirs so I heard
#28
Account Closed
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 7,284
Re: Socialised healthcare..... really?
I think this is a very british thing. We expect the doctor to mostly do nothing except say come back if it's still a problem in a week or that it's probably stress. Maybe this is due to the nature of the funding for medication and canadians expect value for money on their insurance payments.
Value for money would be spending wisely.
As a doctor I once worked with said - People prefer to die at the hands of a doctor they believe in than be cured by one they dont -
- with apologies for the lack of apostrophes etc. my keyboard is doing èÈéèÉÉ again