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Old Mar 18th 2005 | 1:16 am
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Originally Posted by Biiiiink
This is all no small sacrifice on Mr B's part, especially since he'd really rather go to Australia and I'm dragging him kicking and screaming to Canada instead.
Australia was my wife's first choice as well, but she dithered for so long that 45 arrived to effectively kill off the option
 
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Australia was my wife's first choice as well, but she dithered for so long that 45 arrived to effectively kill off the option
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This is all no small sacrifice on Mr B's part, especially since he'd really rather go to Australia and I'm dragging him kicking and screaming to Canada instead.

I suspect I'm doing the washing-up for the next 20yrs
My goodness you are one brave woman - and Mr. B must be some bloke to agree to come here anyway, particularly because retraining is so expensive and absolutely unnecessary. (Prepare him for never ending disparaging jokes about British dentists). I hope your dreams are realised....why the fascination with Canada?
 
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Although all is still on track for a 1st June arrival, I found out today that HR at my company have had to change my job title for the HRDC application so that it does not include the word Engineer all because my 25 years of engineering experience in the Oil/Gas industry was not obtained in Canada.

So we have the ridiculous situation that I will be running a group of engineers, one of which with 15 years years less experience will have to be formally checking all my work.

Do the long Winters make them all barking mad in Alberta or whatt??????

Welcome to Canada.
I'm counting down the days until I can move back to the UK.
 
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Originally Posted by seacreature
Welcome to Canada.
I'm counting down the days until I can move back to the UK.
Why on earth would you want to move back?
 
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Why on earth would you want to move back?
Er?
Have you got all day?
 
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Originally Posted by Biiiiink
I'm probably boring you all to tears harping on about this but Mr B has a BSc Hons from Birmingham, a BDS with merit from Cardiff (dental surgery) and 7yrs work experience as an NHS and private dentist...but Canada will not recognise any of his UK quals and he must do 2yrs "conversion" course at a cost of CAD 70,000 for tuition alone, not to mention the loss of income of 2yrs... The university even had the cheek to refuse his initial application because he hadn't done the english as a foreign language test (required when the candidate has completed high school outside of the US/Canada. We pointed out that the dean of the faculty was South African, and enquired if he had done the english test too .... at which point the application was accepted!

This is all no small sacrifice on Mr B's part, especially since he'd really rather go to Australia and I'm dragging him kicking and screaming to Canada instead.
Considering that Australia will accept British dentists (to the best of my knowledge) I'd say that's a tempting alternative.

In the meantime, I wonder if the British dental body has taken steps to ensure no Canadian trained dentists get to practise in the United Kingdom until this is sorted out.

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A dental surgeon! Why are you even considering this Canadian nonsense? Consider the US.
 
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Hi

Originally Posted by JAJ
Considering that Australia will accept British dentists (to the best of my knowledge) I'd say that's a tempting alternative.

In the meantime, I wonder if the British dental body has taken steps to ensure no Canadian trained dentists get to practise in the United Kingdom until this is sorted out.

Jeremy
Yup,

"3-Commonwealth graduates; those who graduated from Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, Malta (until 1978), University of Malaya (from 1997) and certain universities in South Africa; can obtain a full registration to practice on their own, unsupervised or in the NHS. BUT, they will need a work visa/work permit to do so.

4-Overseas (other than above) dentists; can obtain a temporary registration for the purpose of Postgraduate Training/Research and Teaching only (they need to be supervised at all times by the above categories (British, Europeans, Registered commonwealth graduates), can not work in a private practice and will need a work permit after five years if they have been granted the "permit free" period visa to start with and, the IQE for the full registration with the GDC."

Tit for Tat, UK doesn't recognize Canadian Dentist, Canada doesn't recognize UK dentists.

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Originally Posted by Biiiiink

This is all no small sacrifice on Mr B's part, especially since he'd really rather go to Australia and I'm dragging him kicking and screaming to Canada instead.

I suspect I'm doing the washing-up for the next 20yrs
May I ask why you're so intent on moving to Canada?
It's tragic that Canada won't recognise his dental qualifications or experience, but sadly it doesn't surprise me one iota.
I have a first class honours degree in Computer Science and a list of UK IT accreditations as long as your arm. Not only are they worthless over here, but I can't even get shop work as I'm not considered experienced enough.
So evidently, running an entire IT department doesn't qualify me to use a Canadian till! Unbelievable.
The rate of underemployment in Canada must be truly staggering. I was speaking to an Iranian guy just the other day who was mopping floors in Pizza Pizza. He had a PhD and 3 degrees from his native Iran and spoke better English than many Canadians! This bizzare policy is an utter disgrace and must cost the Canadian economy trillions of dollars in wasted talent alone.

My advice, go to Australia instead.
 
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Originally Posted by PMM

Tit for Tat, UK doesn't recognize Canadian Dentist, Canada doesn't recognize UK dentists.

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Canada doesn't recognise anything!!
Here in Ontario they don't even recognise Nova Scotia as being part of the same country!
 
Old Mar 18th 2005 | 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by PMM
Tit for Tat, UK doesn't recognize Canadian Dentist, Canada doesn't recognize UK dentists.
Works the same for chartered accountants ...
 
Old Mar 18th 2005 | 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by CalgaryAMC
Consider the US.
If only for due dilligence ... take one look at the gun related crime rates and you understand why people move to Canada rather than the US ...
 
Old Mar 18th 2005 | 1:11 pm
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Canada doesn't recognise anything!!
Not true ...
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Here in Ontario they don't even recognise Nova Scotia as being part of the same country!
Don't you know Ontario is Canada ... not enjoying life at the centre of the universe?
 
Old Mar 18th 2005 | 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by seacreature
My advice, go to Australia instead.
My advice, make your own decision ... you can only learn so much from other people's experience ... hope for the best, plan for the worst ... life is too short for regrets.

Advice for IT people: It always pays to make sure that your certifications are valid in Canada before you arrive ... there are plenty of North American qualifications that are recognised globally: the full CompTIA range are popular with employers, PMI, Microsoft, Novell, Cisco, Citrix, Red Hat, etc, etc, etc ... the list goes on ... take a look at Workopolis or Monster and check what employers are looking for.
 


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