Schools - Fraser Institute Report
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Obviously some parents are highly focussed on a particular school (and rightly so) but I think by and large Novo's assessment is accurate. Certainly not misleading.
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Just to answer the OP's original question. Many schools in Calgary simply aren't in the FI reports because they are K-3 or k-4 and they have to be K-6 to fit into the FI reporting. The do Provincial acheivment tests in 3 and 6 and without both those they don't fit into the rubric.
Personally, of the areas you mention, i am not sure I would go to the areas with brand news schools. These are all huge and over subscribed; consequently it can be tough on kids. Here, and this is quite alien to people in UK, they often mix the classes up entirely every year. At one of those big schools an aquaitances daughter was not only put into a Gr1 class with none of her friends from KG, she was also shifted to be at differnt recess and lunchtimes, so she never set eyes on her old friends in school again that year.
I would consider one of the slightly older areas slightly further in
Personally, of the areas you mention, i am not sure I would go to the areas with brand news schools. These are all huge and over subscribed; consequently it can be tough on kids. Here, and this is quite alien to people in UK, they often mix the classes up entirely every year. At one of those big schools an aquaitances daughter was not only put into a Gr1 class with none of her friends from KG, she was also shifted to be at differnt recess and lunchtimes, so she never set eyes on her old friends in school again that year.
I would consider one of the slightly older areas slightly further in
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I think everyone accepts this. It's the desire to have one's children educated alongside affluent children who are fluent in the language of instruction that drives the house price differential. My point is just that this is the same competition that one would see in London or NYC. It's misleading to suggest that people in Canada just choose a house they like and then pack their progeny off to whichever school is on the block.
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11plus still going in LB Sutton and RB Kingston in UK! Daughter was at prestigious grammar school after passing said exam.
My parents were mortified that we sent her to a "DTES" high school when we gut here!
If its such a crap school why can't I afford a house on the road by it?
Anyway - principals and honours list , graduated and at uni - a grades ATM, but she is at Cap, if she moves to SFU or UBC she may drop a little!
Son now at said crap school - outstanding film maker and editor and only just 14!
My parents were mortified that we sent her to a "DTES" high school when we gut here!
If its such a crap school why can't I afford a house on the road by it?
Anyway - principals and honours list , graduated and at uni - a grades ATM, but she is at Cap, if she moves to SFU or UBC she may drop a little!
Son now at said crap school - outstanding film maker and editor and only just 14!
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I think everyone accepts this. It's the desire to have one's children educated alongside affluent children who are fluent in the language of instruction that drives the house price differential. My point is just that this is the same competition that one would see in London or NYC. It's misleading to suggest that people in Canada just choose a house they like and then pack their progeny off to whichever school is on the block.
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As long as those immigrants know their place and don't get uppity and start wanting to get their kids into better schools than their socio/economic status deserves.
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Most immigrants find housing they can afford. Canada isn't Monaco, most emigrate here because they're poor.
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I suppose it depends to what degree immigrant parents want to see their children adopt local customs, if fluency in English isn't primarily important and especially if there's a concern about potential loss of religion or other customs, then, yes, the local school is probably the suitable one. In our case, it was the other way around, we had to send the children to a school in another district to have the best chance that they not go native.
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I'd have thought people would want to send their children to schools in more affluent areas than where they can afford to live and, in the case of immigrants, there'd be a particular need to do so in order to get the children into a school where many students have English (or French) as a first language. That's why the buses from Scarborough to Toronto are full of kids in the morning, their parents have hyped them into schools in the Beach. I'm sure Vancouver has poor immigrant areas and that parents there try to get their kids into schools in other neighbourhoods where there's money and non-immigrant students.
I suppose it depends to what degree immigrant parents want to see their children adopt local customs, if fluency in English isn't primarily important and especially if there's a concern about potential loss of religion or other customs, then, yes, the local school is probably the suitable one. In our case, it was the other way around, we had to send the children to a school in another district to have the best chance that they not go native.
I suppose it depends to what degree immigrant parents want to see their children adopt local customs, if fluency in English isn't primarily important and especially if there's a concern about potential loss of religion or other customs, then, yes, the local school is probably the suitable one. In our case, it was the other way around, we had to send the children to a school in another district to have the best chance that they not go native.
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I'd have thought people would want to send their children to schools in more affluent areas than where they can afford to live and, in the case of immigrants, there'd be a particular need to do so in order to get the children into a school where many students have English (or French) as a first language. That's why the buses from Scarborough to Toronto are full of kids in the morning, their parents have hyped them into schools in the Beach. I'm sure Vancouver has poor immigrant areas and that parents there try to get their kids into schools in other neighbourhoods where there's money and non-immigrant students.
I suppose it depends to what degree immigrant parents want to see their children adopt local customs, if fluency in English isn't primarily important and especially if there's a concern about potential loss of religion or other customs, then, yes, the local school is probably the suitable one. In our case, it was the other way around, we had to send the children to a school in another district to have the best chance that they not go native.
I suppose it depends to what degree immigrant parents want to see their children adopt local customs, if fluency in English isn't primarily important and especially if there's a concern about potential loss of religion or other customs, then, yes, the local school is probably the suitable one. In our case, it was the other way around, we had to send the children to a school in another district to have the best chance that they not go native.
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I suppose it depends to what degree immigrant parents want to see their children adopt local customs, if fluency in English isn't primarily important and especially if there's a concern about potential loss of religion or other customs, then, yes, the local school is probably the suitable one. In our case, it was the other way around, we had to send the children to a school in another district to have the best chance that they not go native.
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and before everyone goes oooh kiwilass is mean I'm totally kidding.