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Old Jan 30th 2013, 7:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Shard
That sounds so graphic. Much prefer something like Gods waiting room or live out their sunset years.

Isn't Victoria more affordable than Vancouver for property? Ok, much less jobs, but I would have thought it's attractive for some priced-out young Vancouver families who mostly want the sea and climate?
Probably a lot more turnover.
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Originally Posted by ExKiwilass
way less work opportunities in Victoria and you can't commute to Van from there, so no.
Depends what kind of work you're looking for. Just like saying Calgary has way more work opportunities and higher salaries.

I wouldn't say you can't commute, when I lived there 50% of my work was in Van and the commute was paid for thru work. Most stay away from the island 'cus it's an island and if you have to pay for the commute, it's costly. Every 5 to 10 years the bridge thing comes up then dies an ugly death.
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Depends what kind of work you're looking for. Just like saying Calgary has way more work opportunities and higher salaries.

I wouldn't say you can't commute, when I lived there 50% of my work was in Van and the commute was paid for thru work. Most stay away from the island 'cus it's an island and if you have to pay for the commute, it's costly. Every 5 to 10 years the bridge thing comes up then dies an ugly death.
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I stand by what I said.
Uh, ok - just a different opinion. You can sit down now.
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Old Jan 30th 2013, 8:37 pm
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Uh, ok - just a different opinion. You can sit down now.
I wouldn't like the commute to Vancouver every day. Even on the float plane it's a lengthy trip - unless you live on the doorstep of the terminal. Otherwise it's 1hr 35 min on the boat alone - never mind the on andd offing!
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Old Jan 30th 2013, 9:23 pm
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I wouldn't like the commute to Vancouver every day. Even on the float plane it's a lengthy trip - unless you live on the doorstep of the terminal. Otherwise it's 1hr 35 min on the boat alone - never mind the on andd offing!
Yeah, it's not the greatest but was just pointing out that it is doable.

Worked on a BC Ferry project - last ferry over to Tsawwassen, nightwork construction then on the first ferry back to the Island, every day. That was a fun one - not.

Also did the float plane commute for a couple of years - fly over, skytrain to a short walk to the office, then stay for the week, then do the reverse home.

Also did the Helijet (fun ride) commute a couple of times as well. Depended on where the meeting was I had to go to.

If I had to choose, I'd rather do that than sit in Vancouver rush hour trying to get to the 'burbs
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Yeah, it's not the greatest but was just pointing out that it is doable.

Worked on a BC Ferry project - last ferry over to Tsawwassen, nightwork construction then on the first ferry back to the Island, every day. That was a fun one - not.

Also did the float plane commute for a couple of years - fly over, skytrain to a short walk to the office, then stay for the week, then do the reverse home.

Also did the Helijet (fun ride) commute a couple of times as well. Depended on where the meeting was I had to go to.

If I had to choose, I'd rather do that than sit in Vancouver rush hour trying to get to the 'burbs
I live in the burbs and am home in 25 minutes by transit

Sometimes I bike home, it's nice down by the water
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Ahhhh that makes sense I didn't realise that, thanks gryphea!

Which areas inwards would you pick if you were starting again? I'm having the battle of newer houses (which I like) vs good (and available) schools, they don't seem to sit in the same areas in the NW?

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Just to answer the OP's original question. Many schools in Calgary simply aren't in the FI reports because they are K-3 or k-4 and they have to be K-6 to fit into the FI reporting. The do Provincial acheivment tests in 3 and 6 and without both those they don't fit into the rubric.

Personally, of the areas you mention, i am not sure I would go to the areas with brand news schools. These are all huge and over subscribed; consequently it can be tough on kids. Here, and this is quite alien to people in UK, they often mix the classes up entirely every year. At one of those big schools an aquaitances daughter was not only put into a Gr1 class with none of her friends from KG, she was also shifted to be at differnt recess and lunchtimes, so she never set eyes on her old friends in school again that year.

I would consider one of the slightly older areas slightly further in
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Ahhhh that makes sense I didn't realise that, thanks gryphea!

Which areas inwards would you pick if you were starting again? I'm having the battle of newer houses (which I like) vs good (and available) schools, they don't seem to sit in the same areas in the NW?

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They don't. If you want a new house you are either in an area with over subscribed schools (ie Tuscany, Rocky Ride etc) or you get bussed to school and where you get bussed to can change regualrly.

The schools are smaller and have more space further in where the houses are older. One step in from those communities that houses can be dated, full of 1980s oak thats all over the city, werid lighting etc.

IM experience here though the people who want new and don't compromise want everthing else new and so its much more materialistic for the kids at school; this is talking to parents with kids at the schools where clothes, gadgets , electronics, etc seem way more important.
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They don't. If you want a new house you are either in an area with over subscribed schools (ie Tuscany, Rocky Ride etc) or you get bussed to school and where you get bussed to can change regualrly.

The schools are smaller and have more space further in where the houses are older. One step in from those communities that houses can be dated, full of 1980s oak thats all over the city, werid lighting etc.

IM experience here though the people who want new and don't compromise want everthing else new and so its much more materialistic for the kids at school; this is talking to parents with kids at the schools where clothes, gadgets , electronics, etc seem way more important.
...more important than what? There are kids in 2013 that aren't into clothes or electronics? Where?
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...more important than what? There are kids in 2013 that aren't into clothes or electronics? Where?
OK. So I mean in elementary school, when I say kids.

Certainly where we live kids (elemantary) aren't obsessed with clothes and electronics
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OK. So I mean in elementary school, when I say kids.

Certainly where we live kids (elemantary) aren't obsessed with clothes and electronics
Clothes, understandable? Electronics, really?
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Clothes, understandable? Electronics, really?
Phones, tablets, laptops, mp3 players, games consoles - it's not that hard to understand kids wanting the same ones their friends have got.
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Clothes, understandable? Electronics, really?
yes, really.

In kindergarten it was the DS.

In grade 2 the Ipod touch/Ipad

Grade 3/4 Iphone

Spawn saved allowance for over a year to buy herself an Ipod touch. Now she facetimes her friends on it.
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Phones, tablets, laptops, mp3 players, games consoles - it's not that hard to understand kids wanting the same ones their friends have got.
There seems to be a rather self-righteous strain of parenting that loves to denigrate childrens’ preferences about objects as if they’re experts in post-structuralist semiology of consumerism without realizing the ironic hypocrisy of their choices. I think the Amish are rather guilty of this.
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