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Old Jun 18th 2002, 5:14 pm
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If I understand it correctly anyone wanting to retire in Canada will need to apply for permanent residency - is there a seperate application for this or does one apply with the job seekers? Many countries allow anyone to retire as long as they have a pension from their home country to support them but I was wondering if Canada had stricter rules due to the health system not being private?
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Old Jun 18th 2002, 8:20 pm
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Canada eliminated Retirees category several years ago and now for people in the
retirement age it is very difficult to qualify in the Skilled Worker category. When
applying in Business class (Entrepreneurs and Investors) it is easier to get approved
if applicant meets all financial and business experience criteria.

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"crazy daisy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > If I understand it correctly anyone wanting to retire in Canada will need to apply
    > for permanent residency - is there a seperate application for this or does one
    > apply with the job seekers? Many countries allow anyone to retire as long as they
    > have a pension from their home country to support them but I was wondering if
    > Canada had stricter rules due to the health system not being private?
    >
    >
    >
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Old Jun 18th 2002, 9:20 pm
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Does this mean nobody can apply to retire there now unless they are business people?
Seems stupid as the intention is *not* to work again. BJ

"Andrew Miller" <millercitelus.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Canada eliminated Retirees category several years ago and now for people
in the
    > retirement age it is very difficult to qualify in the Skilled Worker
category.
    > When applying in Business class (Entrepreneurs and Investors) it is easier
to
    > get approved if applicant meets all financial and business experience
criteria.
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
    > millercicanada.com (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
    > sending email)
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    >
    > "crazy daisy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > If I understand it correctly anyone wanting to retire in Canada will need to
    > > apply for permanent residency - is there a seperate application for this or does
    > > one apply with the job seekers? Many countries allow anyone to retire as long as
    > > they have a pension from their home country to support them but I was wondering
    > > if Canada had stricter rules due to the health system not being private?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Jun 18th 2002, 9:20 pm
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You misread my post - I didn't say that nobody can apply for Canadian immigration to
retire here. I clearly stated that Retiree class doesn't exist anymore, so anyone who
wants to make Canada home must meet selection criteria either in the Skilled Workers
(Independent) of Business class. People in the retirement age will not get any points
in age factor thus qualifying in the Skilled Workers class may be extremely difficult
(if not impossible), while having no pints for age factor in Business class is not
such a disaster, so it may be easier to get approved.

--

../..

Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
millercicanada.com (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
sending email)
________________________________

"waterships" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Does this mean nobody can apply to retire there now unless they are business
    > people? Seems stupid as the intention is *not* to work again. BJ
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Miller" <millercitelus.net> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Canada eliminated Retirees category several years ago and now for people
    > in the
    > > retirement age it is very difficult to qualify in the Skilled Worker
    > category.
    > > When applying in Business class (Entrepreneurs and Investors) it is easier
    > to
    > > get approved if applicant meets all financial and business experience
    > criteria.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
    > > millercicanada.com (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
    > > sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "crazy daisy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > If I understand it correctly anyone wanting to retire in Canada will need to
    > > > apply for permanent residency - is there a seperate application for this or
    > > > does one apply with the job seekers? Many countries allow anyone to retire as
    > > > long as they have a pension from their home country to support them but I was
    > > > wondering if Canada had stricter rules due to the health system not being
    > > > private?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > >
    >
 
Old Jun 18th 2002, 9:20 pm
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James Fowler
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It's still short-sighted on the part of CIC to not welcome retirees with open-arms
that have sufficient financial means.

For example. a friend of mine would like to retire to Canada. He's worked as a
civil servant for 30-something years, no mortgage or debts, going to receive a
*very* generous pension when he retires but is unable to move to Canada for the
better life that would be for him, whilst pumping all that pension money into the
Canadian economy.

"Andrew Miller" <millercitelus.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > You misread my post - I didn't say that nobody can apply for Canadian immigration
    > to retire here. I clearly stated that Retiree class doesn't
exist
    > anymore, so anyone who wants to make Canada home must meet selection
criteria
    > either in the Skilled Workers (Independent) of Business class. People in
the
    > retirement age will not get any points in age factor thus qualifying in
the
    > Skilled Workers class may be extremely difficult (if not impossible),
while
    > having no pints for age factor in Business class is not such a disaster,
so it
    > may be easier to get approved.
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
    > millercicanada.com (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
    > sending email)
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    >
    > "waterships" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Does this mean nobody can apply to retire there now unless they are
business
    > > people? Seems stupid as the intention is *not* to work again. BJ
    > >
    > >
    > > "Andrew Miller" <millercitelus.net> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Canada eliminated Retirees category several years ago and now for
people
    > > in the
    > > > retirement age it is very difficult to qualify in the Skilled Worker
    > > category.
    > > > When applying in Business class (Entrepreneurs and Investors) it is
easier
    > > to
    > > > get approved if applicant meets all financial and business experience
    > > criteria.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
    > > > millercicanada.com (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
    > > > sending email)
    > > > ________________________________
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "crazy daisy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > If I understand it correctly anyone wanting to retire in Canada will need to
    > > > > apply for permanent residency - is there a seperate
application
    > > > > for this or does one apply with the job seekers? Many countries
allow
    > > > > anyone to retire as long as they have a pension from their home
country
    > > > > to support them but I was wondering if Canada had stricter rules due
to
    > > > > the health system not being private?
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    >
 
Old Jun 18th 2002, 9:20 pm
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Andrew Miller
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This discussion is really moot, sorry. Canada had for years a Retirees category in
the immigration program and it has been eliminated long time ago after years of
arguments on both sides. New immigration law to be implemented June 28 doesn't change
anything in that matter, so any discussion about it is simply fruitless.

--

../..

Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
millercicanada.com (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
sending email)
________________________________

"James Fowler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > It's still short-sighted on the part of CIC to not welcome retirees with open-arms
    > that have sufficient financial means.
    >
    > For example. a friend of mine would like to retire to Canada. He's worked as a
    > civil servant for 30-something years, no mortgage or debts, going to receive a
    > *very* generous pension when he retires but is unable to move to Canada for the
    > better life that would be for him, whilst pumping all that pension money into the
    > Canadian economy.
    >
    > "Andrew Miller" <millercitelus.net> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > You misread my post - I didn't say that nobody can apply for Canadian immigration
    > > to retire here. I clearly stated that Retiree class doesn't
    > exist
    > > anymore, so anyone who wants to make Canada home must meet selection
    > criteria
    > > either in the Skilled Workers (Independent) of Business class. People in
    > the
    > > retirement age will not get any points in age factor thus qualifying in
    > the
    > > Skilled Workers class may be extremely difficult (if not impossible),
    > while
    > > having no pints for age factor in Business class is not such a disaster,
    > so it
    > > may be easier to get approved.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
    > > millercicanada.com (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
    > > sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "waterships" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Does this mean nobody can apply to retire there now unless they are
    > business
    > > > people? Seems stupid as the intention is *not* to work again. BJ
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Andrew Miller" <millercitelus.net> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Canada eliminated Retirees category several years ago and now for
    > people
    > > > in the
    > > > > retirement age it is very difficult to qualify in the Skilled Worker
    > > > category.
    > > > > When applying in Business class (Entrepreneurs and Investors) it is
    > easier
    > > > to
    > > > > get approved if applicant meets all financial and business experience
    > > > criteria.
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > ../..
    > > > >
    > > > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
    > > > > millercicanada.com (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
    > > > > sending email)
    > > > > ________________________________
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "crazy daisy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > If I understand it correctly anyone wanting to retire in Canada will need
    > > > > > to apply for permanent residency - is there a seperate
    > application
    > > > > > for this or does one apply with the job seekers? Many countries
    > allow
    > > > > > anyone to retire as long as they have a pension from their home
    > country
    > > > > > to support them but I was wondering if Canada had stricter rules due
    > to
    > > > > > the health system not being private?
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    >
 
Old Jun 19th 2002, 1:20 am
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yeah thats true. i guess it's jsut because they are facing the same problem as lots
of western nations which a hugely increasing retired population and less people to
support them, especially as the baby boomers reach retirement age now. So They dont
want even more retirement age coming in and increasnig the burden on healthcare etc.
and i suppose they cant just take a few, its either lots or none if you have a clas
for it or not.
 
Old Jun 21st 2002, 4:20 pm
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Canada is a very socialist (not meant as a pejorative) country. There would be no way
to enforce any order that persons in Canada be self-supporting.

With such extensive social service and car network and with such a growing demand for
those services it is clear why the retiree category was removed.

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"James Fowler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > It's still short-sighted on the part of CIC to not welcome retirees with open-arms
    > that have sufficient financial means.
    >
    > For example. a friend of mine would like to retire to Canada. He's worked
as
    > a civil servant for 30-something years, no mortgage or debts, going to receive a
    > *very* generous pension when he retires but is unable to move to Canada for the
    > better life that would be for him, whilst pumping all that pension money into the
    > Canadian economy.
    >
    > "Andrew Miller" <millercitelus.net> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > You misread my post - I didn't say that nobody can apply for Canadian immigration
    > > to retire here. I clearly stated that Retiree class doesn't
    > exist
    > > anymore, so anyone who wants to make Canada home must meet selection
    > criteria
    > > either in the Skilled Workers (Independent) of Business class. People in
    > the
    > > retirement age will not get any points in age factor thus qualifying in
    > the
    > > Skilled Workers class may be extremely difficult (if not impossible),
    > while
    > > having no pints for age factor in Business class is not such a disaster,
    > so it
    > > may be easier to get approved.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
    > > millercicanada.com (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
    > > sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "waterships" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Does this mean nobody can apply to retire there now unless they are
    > business
    > > > people? Seems stupid as the intention is *not* to work again. BJ
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Andrew Miller" <millercitelus.net> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Canada eliminated Retirees category several years ago and now for
    > people
    > > > in the
    > > > > retirement age it is very difficult to qualify in the Skilled Worker
    > > > category.
    > > > > When applying in Business class (Entrepreneurs and Investors) it is
    > easier
    > > > to
    > > > > get approved if applicant meets all financial and business
experience
    > > > criteria.
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > ../..
    > > > >
    > > > > Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
    > > > > millercicanada.com (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
    > > > > sending email)
    > > > > ________________________________
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "crazy daisy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > If I understand it correctly anyone wanting to retire in Canada
will
    > > > > > need to apply for permanent residency - is there a seperate
    > application
    > > > > > for this or does one apply with the job seekers? Many countries
    > allow
    > > > > > anyone to retire as long as they have a pension from their home
    > country
    > > > > > to support them but I was wondering if Canada had stricter rules
due
    > to
    > > > > > the health system not being private?
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    >
 
Old Jun 21st 2002, 8:20 pm
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James Fowler
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"Berto Volpentesta" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Canada is a very socialist (not meant as a pejorative) country. There
would
    > be no way to enforce any order that persons in Canada be self-supporting.

A couple of strategies for verification of ability to be self-supporting:
1. Accountant-verified statement of net worth.
2. Signed acceptance that the retiree accepts that they are not eligible for
welfare payments.
3. Copies of T1 (or equivalent in originating country).
4. Sponsorship form from an individual accepting responsibility for support
should the need arrive (great if the retiree is a close personal friend).
 
Old Jun 21st 2002, 9:20 pm
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Andrew Miller
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Canadian law guarantees access for all citizens and permanent residents to social
services, welfare and universal health care. No statements from a person that s/he
relinquishes such right will hold, sorry. All of that has been tried, tested and
discussed - simply didn't work and Retiree category was eliminated.

--

../..

Andrew Miller Immigration Consultant Vancouver, British Columbia email:
millercicanada.com (delete REMOVE and INVALID from the above address before
sending email)
________________________________

"James Fowler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Berto Volpentesta" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Canada is a very socialist (not meant as a pejorative) country. There
    > would
    > > be no way to enforce any order that persons in Canada be self-supporting.
    >
    > A couple of strategies for verification of ability to be self-supporting:
    > 1. Accountant-verified statement of net worth.
    > 2. Signed acceptance that the retiree accepts that they are not eligible for
    > welfare payments.
    > 3. Copies of T1 (or equivalent in originating country).
    > 4. Sponsorship form from an individual accepting responsibility for support
    > should the need arrive (great if the retiree is a close personal friend).
 

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