Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Canada
Reload this Page >

Recruitment insight in Canada

Recruitment insight in Canada

Thread Tools
 
Old Jul 10th 2018, 8:50 pm
  #1  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 8
spankysalad is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Recruitment insight in Canada

Preamble - I'm currently on the search for careers in the environmental sector, primarily contaminated land remediation. I'm pretty flexible in terms of location (I will go literally anywhere!) and have a solid experience base (graduate with over 6 years in a project management position). Full disclosure i'm still in the UK, hoping to secure employment before my move (haven't quite mustered the guts yet to go un-employed in a new country!).

I've never had any difficulties in securing a job in the UK, where I have basically sent a CV to a single recruiter, and they have gone around pretty much every available employer on my behalf until a suitable role is available. I.e they have done all the leg work for me, and the whole process has been finished within a month.

From my experience so far with job hunting in Canada, this doesn't seem to be the case! I can't seem to find any dedicated recruitment consultants either on job boards (indeed) or linkedin, it all seems to be done in-house by the employers themselves, and therefore i've resorted to the age-old method of mass distribution of CVs to every applicable job posting with little luck! Is this indeed how it's done there?

My morale is faltering, and any advise/insight greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Marcus
spankysalad is offline  
Old Jul 10th 2018, 9:09 pm
  #2  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 3,874
scilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Recruitment insight in Canada

Does indeed seem to be more individual company OR setting up as a consultant yourself and then hawking your skills when you see contracts offered.

It is VERY hard to get a job from outside Canada, especially if you do not already have your PR status.

Employers are have to hire Canadian first if there is a qualified applicant, otherwise they have to go through a 6 month process costing $1000 to advertise across Caanda and proved there is no qualified Canadian.

Have you ensured that your cv/resume is written in Canadian style (not the English style)?
scilly is offline  
Old Jul 10th 2018, 9:21 pm
  #3  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 8
spankysalad is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Recruitment insight in Canada

Does indeed seem to be more individual company OR setting up as a consultant yourself and then hawking your skills when you see contracts offered.

It is VERY hard to get a job from outside Canada, especially if you do not already have your PR status.

Employers are have to hire Canadian first if there is a qualified applicant, otherwise they have to go through a 6 month process costing $1000 to advertise across Caanda and proved there is no qualified Canadian.

Have you ensured that your cv/resume is written in Canadian style (not the English style)?
So I have a IEC 2 year permit (looking to pursue PR once settled), entry valid until February 2019 - I assumed this put me reasonably on par with Canadians in terms of the hiring process for employers i.e. they don't have to demonstrate that they couldn't hire a Canadian native first (although obviously not quite up to par with someone with PR).

I've had a look at some sample cv's/resume's in the Canadian style and have tried to emulate, although again a dedicated recruitment consultant would help with this as well.
spankysalad is offline  
Old Jul 10th 2018, 9:40 pm
  #4  
Still alive
 
Dorothy's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,994
Dorothy has a reputation beyond reputeDorothy has a reputation beyond reputeDorothy has a reputation beyond reputeDorothy has a reputation beyond reputeDorothy has a reputation beyond reputeDorothy has a reputation beyond reputeDorothy has a reputation beyond reputeDorothy has a reputation beyond reputeDorothy has a reputation beyond reputeDorothy has a reputation beyond reputeDorothy has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Recruitment insight in Canada

Originally Posted by spankysalad
So I have a IEC 2 year permit (looking to pursue PR once settled), entry valid until February 2019 - I assumed this put me reasonably on par with Canadians in terms of the hiring process for employers i.e. they don't have to demonstrate that they couldn't hire a Canadian native first (although obviously not quite up to par with someone with PR).

I've had a look at some sample cv's/resume's in the Canadian style and have tried to emulate, although again a dedicated recruitment consultant would help with this as well.
IEC is not the same as PR or citizenship. Why would a company hire someone who is on a 2 year working holiday over someone who can commit to full time permanent? Especially if you are still in another country.

My partner is a permanent resident but is still finding it difficult to get past the send a resume and grt in touch when you've moved stage.
Dorothy is offline  
Old Jul 10th 2018, 9:53 pm
  #5  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 8
spankysalad is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Recruitment insight in Canada

Originally Posted by Dorothy
IEC is not the same as PR or citizenship. Why would a company hire someone who is on a 2 year working holiday over someone who can commit to full time permanent? Especially if you are still in another country.

My partner is a permanent resident but is still finding it difficult to get past the send a resume and grt in touch when you've moved stage.
I know it's not the same, my point is there are no legal issues for an employer to choose me over a Canadian citizen. IEC is obviously not ideal but it's the only option I have available to me right now so i'm giving it a shot. I'm not on a '2 year working holiday', i'm aiming to get the 1 years skilled experience in Canada required to bump me up to the points so i'm eligible to apply for PR, with a year left on the permit as a buffer period.

My point in making this thread was to see if there were any other resources available for job hunting such as dedicated recruitment consultants, or if it simply is a case of sending cv's and crossing fingers.
spankysalad is offline  
Old Jul 10th 2018, 10:17 pm
  #6  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Location: Done with condescending old hags
Posts: 1,194
Vulcanoid has a reputation beyond reputeVulcanoid has a reputation beyond reputeVulcanoid has a reputation beyond reputeVulcanoid has a reputation beyond reputeVulcanoid has a reputation beyond reputeVulcanoid has a reputation beyond reputeVulcanoid has a reputation beyond reputeVulcanoid has a reputation beyond reputeVulcanoid has a reputation beyond reputeVulcanoid has a reputation beyond reputeVulcanoid has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Recruitment insight in Canada

Originally Posted by spankysalad
So I have a IEC 2 year permit (looking to pursue PR once settled), entry valid until February 2019 - I assumed this put me reasonably on par with Canadians in terms of the hiring process for employers i.e. they don't have to demonstrate that they couldn't hire a Canadian native first (although obviously not quite up to par with someone with PR).

I've had a look at some sample cv's/resume's in the Canadian style and have tried to emulate, although again a dedicated recruitment consultant would help with this as well.
They don't have to look for a Canadian first, but they can still choose to, and may be wary of someone with a potential permit (ie you don't have a long-term status, and you don't even have an active work permit yet, you just have the possibility of being issued one on arrival).

I have no idea what people mean when they say to reformat a resume, the university careers adviser here looked at mine and said it was absolutely fine when I asked how I should change it.
Vulcanoid is offline  
Old Jul 10th 2018, 10:20 pm
  #7  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Location: Halifax, NS
Posts: 345
Tumbling_Dice has a reputation beyond reputeTumbling_Dice has a reputation beyond reputeTumbling_Dice has a reputation beyond reputeTumbling_Dice has a reputation beyond reputeTumbling_Dice has a reputation beyond reputeTumbling_Dice has a reputation beyond reputeTumbling_Dice has a reputation beyond reputeTumbling_Dice has a reputation beyond reputeTumbling_Dice has a reputation beyond reputeTumbling_Dice has a reputation beyond reputeTumbling_Dice has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Recruitment insight in Canada

I can only speak from my experience with Nova Scotia. I did not want to move here unemployed either but I have PR. I sent my wife over first and made several trips over to look for work.

I too came up against this seeming lack of recruitment agencies - indeed, getting in front of a human seemed to be nigh on impossible, even with the few agencies I found. They just wanted my CV (get it Canada formatted).

Eventually, I did get a break with a "talent acquisition manager" and, at the same time, twigged that networking and showing up in person was the way to go. I went to some job fairs and made contacts. And that is the key. The longer I have lived here the more it is clear that you need contacts.

Dunno if that helps but hopefully it is a direct answer to your question.
Tumbling_Dice is offline  
Old Jul 11th 2018, 12:08 am
  #8  
Assimilated Pauper
 
dbd33's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Ontario
Posts: 40,018
dbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond reputedbd33 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Recruitment insight in Canada

I don't know that they reclaim polluted ground in Canada, it's a big country so they may just leave it and move on; that's certainly the case with disused gravel pits. If there is such a trade then it'll have a conference with delegates from the big firms in the business. I'd try and hit the conference, meet people, sell yourself.
dbd33 is offline  
Old Jul 11th 2018, 12:21 am
  #9  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 3,874
scilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond reputescilly has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Recruitment insight in Canada

There are regulations for reclamation of land in BC ....... hence why I know it is often people qualified to work in the area who set themselves as a company and work (dam' hard) to get contracts.

Roads built for cutting timber have to be declassified and reclaimed after the work is finished.

Mines have to reclaim land disturbed for mining, including open-pit mining, and reclaim mine tips, tailings ponds, etc etc

These are all SUPPOSED to be carried out by the companies involved.


A few companies have their own reclamation experts on staff, others do not and do as little as they can get away with ........... hence why we had the Mount Polley disaster 4 years ago.

It is most certainly true that personal contact is necessary and getting your name known are both required to get your foot in the door.
scilly is offline  
Old Jul 11th 2018, 1:43 am
  #10  
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: SW Ontario
Posts: 19,879
Siouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond reputeSiouxie has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Recruitment insight in Canada

Hello and welcome to BE!

I would strongly suggest having a read of the wiki regarding looking for jobs in Canada - particularly the parts about 'Canadianising' your Resume and regarding applying from overseas (pretty much a lost cause most of the time). https://britishexpats.com/wiki/Categ...Hunting-Canada

Job hunting is completely different here and be prepared to not hear back from companies for weeks/months/never.. the biggest tip would be to try to connect to people in the industry you wish to work in.. network network network is the name of the game in Canada.

You might find this website of interest... Job Board | ECO Canada

Have you checked to see if your qualifications will be recognised in Canada and additionally, whether you will need Provincial Licensing / Certification?

Recruiters/headhunters generally work for 'Employment Agencies' - of which there are plenty!

Best of luck and do feel free to ask any questions or for any advice.. anytime! We're all happy to be of help..

Regarding points for PR - how many do you have presently?




Although this is a Google search, it may have some links that could be of use to you... hint, click to view!

Last edited by Siouxie; Jul 11th 2018 at 1:53 am.
Siouxie is offline  
Old Jul 11th 2018, 1:49 am
  #11  
BE Forum Addict
 
Engineer_abroad's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 1,706
Engineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Recruitment insight in Canada

Originally Posted by Dorothy
IEC is not the same as PR or citizenship. Why would a company hire someone who is on a 2 year working holiday over someone who can commit to full time permanent? Especially if you are still in another country.

My partner is a permanent resident but is still finding it difficult to get past the send a resume and grt in touch when you've moved stage.
i work in engineering consultancy and we do it all the time. It is one of the easiest way to attract and retain the best young quality in our industry. 100% of them choose to stay and are supported to PR by company
Engineer_abroad is offline  
Old Jul 11th 2018, 1:54 am
  #12  
BE Forum Addict
 
Engineer_abroad's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 1,706
Engineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond reputeEngineer_abroad has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Recruitment insight in Canada

Originally Posted by scilly
There are regulations for reclamation of land in BC ....... hence why I know it is often people qualified to work in the area who set themselves as a company and work (dam' hard) to get contracts.

Roads built for cutting timber have to be declassified and reclaimed after the work is finished.

Mines have to reclaim land disturbed for mining, including open-pit mining, and reclaim mine tips, tailings ponds, etc etc

These are all SUPPOSED to be carried out by the companies involved.


A few companies have their own reclamation experts on staff, others do not and do as little as they can get away with ........... hence why we had the Mount Polley disaster 4 years ago.

It is most certainly true that personal contact is necessary and getting your name known are both required to get your foot in the door.
Failure of Mount Polley had nothing to do with reclamation of contaminated land it was and still is an active tailings management facility that failed due to an undrained failure of undiscovered level of glaciallacustrine silt beneath the dam. The clean up was required as a result of the failure but was not caused by a lack of clean-up.
Engineer_abroad is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.