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Tirytory May 20th 2014 2:09 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 11269140)
Partly maybe because of the current FX. Although when I was there last fall, I thought how expensive many things were compared to here.

When we arrived, it was way cheaper here with a GBP worth $2.30CAD

The cost of things is immaterial, what matters is how much you have left after the cost of living. We were and still are way better of than when living in the UK.

I don't know.... Food seems on par, alcohol more expensive here. Electricity more expensive. Propane not sure of at the moment, definitely spending more on fuel... Constantly filling up the tank.

To be fair though I didn't actually come here thinking it was going to be cheaper so not disappointed.

scrubbedexpat091 May 20th 2014 2:51 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11269149)
I don't know.... Food seems on par, alcohol more expensive here. Electricity more expensive. Propane not sure of at the moment, definitely spending more on fuel... Constantly filling up the tank.

To be fair though I didn't actually come here thinking it was going to be cheaper so not disappointed.

Maybe a more fuel efficient car is needed so you don't have to fill up as much?

MrFloyd May 20th 2014 8:18 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11269194)
Maybe a more fuel efficient car is needed so you don't have to fill up as much?

Indeed. Although there always seem to be excuses as to why this cannot be done :confused:

Tirytory May 21st 2014 12:01 am

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by MrFloyd (Post 11269468)
Indeed. Although there always seem to be excuses as to why this cannot be done :confused:

I think it is quite fuel efficient for what it is (1.6 engine) maybe I need two cars, one very efficient for summer and keep the 4x4 for winter.... Clearly that's not an efficient inexpensive option..... and before anyone says anything yes the 4x4 is necessary in the winter around here. My Canadian friend from Timmins got stuck on our drive in her front wheel drive and we had to push her out..:sneaky:

When I say constantly filling up I mean once a week actually. Back home I only needed to fill the car up once every three or four weeks...

How often do others fill up?

SchnookoLoly May 21st 2014 12:29 am

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11269808)
I think it is quite fuel efficient for what it is (1.6 engine) maybe I need two cars, one very efficient for summer and keep the 4x4 for winter.... Clearly that's not an efficient inexpensive option..... and before anyone says anything yes the 4x4 is necessary in the winter around here. My Canadian friend from Timmins got stuck on our drive in her front wheel drive and we had to push her out..:sneaky:

When I say constantly filling up I mean once a week actually. Back home I only needed to fill the car up once every three or four weeks...

How often do others fill up?

Obviously it's subjective as it just depends how much you drive, the type of car you have, the size of your gas tank, etc.

We have a 2013 Hyundai Elantra. Gas tank I think is 54L. I do about 50km on an average weekday, weekends it just depends what we have on. We fill up the car every 9-10 days or so, about $50 for a tank.

dbd33 May 21st 2014 12:31 am

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11269808)
I think it is quite fuel efficient for what it is (1.6 engine) maybe I need two cars, one very efficient for summer and keep the 4x4 for winter.... Clearly that's not an efficient inexpensive option..... and before anyone says anything yes the 4x4 is necessary in the winter around here. My Canadian friend from Timmins got stuck on our drive in her front wheel drive and we had to push her out..:sneaky:

When I say constantly filling up I mean once a week actually. Back home I only needed to fill the car up once every three or four weeks...

How often do others fill up?

I fill up every three days but then I don't have a 4x4. I don't think there's any need for 4WD so long as one drives on roads.

I've gone through a good number of winters in the country in the pastel Beetle convertible but have now decided that it was too sensible. FWD is handy in the snow but we don't drive off the pavement (deliberately at least) very often so the compromise of FWD for practicality vs. RWD for fun leaned too much toward drearily sensible.

scrubbedexpat091 May 21st 2014 6:53 am

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11269808)
How often do others fill up?

If we don't have to go to Vancouver for anything, we fill up 1-2 times a month usually, a tank lasts about 2-3 weeks, possibly a little longer if I have an extra day off work.

We rarely drive more then 10km in any given day.

Steve_ May 21st 2014 12:31 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11269136)
Electricity is cheaper in the UK. Way cheaper.

Nope, totally wrong, just went to ukpower.co.uk and it's giving me rates around 14p (aka 26 cents per kWh). In Alberta it's around 7 cents per kWh.

I.e. vastly less. Alberta (and Canada generally) is a major natural resource country, obviously it's going to be less here.

Ditto for natural gas, it's way less.

Supposedly Alberta is one of the more expensive provinces for energy (how?) although I haven't checked thoroughly by province.

JamesM May 21st 2014 1:12 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 11270898)
Nope, totally wrong, just went to ukpower.co.uk and it's giving me rates around 14p (aka 26 cents per kWh). In Alberta it's around 7 cents per kWh.

I.e. vastly less. Alberta (and Canada generally) is a major natural resource country, obviously it's going to be less here.

Ditto for natural gas, it's way less.

Supposedly Alberta is one of the more expensive provinces for energy (how?) although I haven't checked thoroughly by province.

More expensive in Ontario:
http://www.ontario-hydro.com/index.p...=current_rates

And one needs to constantly be running A/C or heating here so the meter gets thrashed a lot more.

JamesM May 21st 2014 1:14 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11269808)
I think it is quite fuel efficient for what it is (1.6 engine) maybe I need two cars, one very efficient for summer and keep the 4x4 for winter.... Clearly that's not an efficient inexpensive option..... and before anyone says anything yes the 4x4 is necessary in the winter around here. My Canadian friend from Timmins got stuck on our drive in her front wheel drive and we had to push her out..:sneaky:

When I say constantly filling up I mean once a week actually. Back home I only needed to fill the car up once every three or four weeks...

How often do others fill up?

Thankfully once a month. But I'm just a leisure driver.

My Honda Civic is highly efficient actually and in my 4 years of ownership has easily been the least hassle car I've ever driven.

I think the Pontiac Sunfire was the worst. The Ford Fiesta and Audi A3 were on a par with each other.

All second hand and two to three years old at purchase.

scrubbedexpat091 May 21st 2014 1:43 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 11270898)
Nope, totally wrong, just went to ukpower.co.uk and it's giving me rates around 14p (aka 26 cents per kWh). In Alberta it's around 7 cents per kWh.

I.e. vastly less. Alberta (and Canada generally) is a major natural resource country, obviously it's going to be less here.

Ditto for natural gas, it's way less.

Supposedly Alberta is one of the more expensive provinces for energy (how?) although I haven't checked thoroughly by province.

Runs about 7.5 cents to 11.27 cents here in BC according to my bill depending on what tier your at. Tier 1 is 0 to 1,350 Kwh, and anything over 1,350 is charged at tier 2 which is 11.27 cents.


On top of the energy charge there is also 5% rate rider, 5%GST, basic charge which seems to be around 16 cents per day.

Mine runs about 300 Kwh a month for a 2 bed room apartment, everything is electric. (water, heat, cooking.)

Steve_ May 21st 2014 1:47 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 11270947)
And one needs to constantly be running A/C or heating here so the meter gets thrashed a lot more.

Well I think I can safely say we use more natural gas per capita in Calgary than southern Ontario based on the weather, but yeah, it is just about possible to manage without AC in Calgary. Couple of weeks during the summer where it would be nice though.

Obviously you're going to use more gas and electricity here in Canada due to the weather and the bigger houses, but 26 divided by 7 = 3.7 so you're going to have to be making an effort to use 3.7 times as much. Even those Ontario figures aren't half as much.

Steve_ May 21st 2014 1:55 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11270984)
On top of the energy charge there is also 5% rate rider, 5%GST, basic charge which seems to be around 16 cents per day.

Ooh yes, I forgot connection charges, I think this is why Calgary is considered to be so expensive because they are pretty high here. But anyway, just looking at edfenergy.com they're giving me standing charges around 18-19p per day, so 18 * 1.85 = 33.3 cents

Dunno, difficult to compare, I need to talk to someone in the UK who has got all the bits and pieces on their bill.

dbd33 May 21st 2014 2:26 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 11270995)
Ooh yes, I forgot connection charges, I think this is why Calgary is considered to be so expensive because they are pretty high here. But anyway, just looking at edfenergy.com they're giving me standing charges around 18-19p per day, so 18 * 1.85 = 33.3 cents

Dunno, difficult to compare, I need to talk to someone in the UK who has got all the bits and pieces on their bill.

Electricity here is about $175/month for delivery, taxes, debt repayment, sundry other fixed charges, so, if you only turn on one light bulb for one morning, it's got to be as expensive as anywhere in the world. That be $175.01 for the morning. Electricity is only reasonably priced per unit if you run baseboard heaters all day and air conditioning to offset the effect.

christmasoompa May 21st 2014 9:17 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 11270995)
Dunno, difficult to compare, I need to talk to someone in the UK who has got all the bits and pieces on their bill.

It's on the desk next to me, so as if by magic.............

Our standing charge is £14.09p per day, peak electricity 16.63p per KWh, off peak 5.92p per KWh (we are on Economy 10, as we have ground source heat pumps and underfloor heating throughout the house hence the two tier cost). Obviously we run pretty much everything on the off peak times, so the only on peak electricity we use are lights at night and the tv.

We pay a small fortune for our electricity, but we live in an all electric house (no mains gas here) with an electric Aga. The house is very large and also very old so not terribly efficient! Hence our huge bills.

In our last house (which was a very normal 1970's house on an estate, not particularly big), we paid between £90 and £110 a month for gas and electricity.

HTH.


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