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MountainHiker May 16th 2014 3:12 am

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11263060)
I've seen that site before. It was way off.

Just checked it again. Still way off.

One bedroom apartment $683 or downtown @ $733 :eek:

My duplex rents for $640 2 bed and $540 for 1 bed. That's upstairs plus attic and balcony and downstairs plus basement and deck. About 10 minutes walk from downtown and there are plenty of good places for less. I check the paper and kijiji from time to time and most rents are lower than mine.

That website is hit and miss, it's all based on user submissions. If there is limited data or old data it can be way off. Best bet it to scroll to the bottom and check the number of submissions and the date of the last submission.

Moncton only has 27 submissions vs Vancouver's 339 in the last 18 months.

scrubbedexpat091 May 16th 2014 5:19 am

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11263060)
I've seen that site before. It was way off.

Just checked it again. Still way off.

One bedroom apartment $683 or downtown @ $733 :eek:

My duplex rents for $640 2 bed and $540 for 1 bed. That's upstairs plus attic and balcony and downstairs plus basement and deck. About 10 minutes walk from downtown and there are plenty of good places for less. I check the paper and kijiji from time to time and most rents are lower than mine.

I want those kind of rents....We are in subsidized rental in BC and pay more then that.....Any jobs out there...lol

Steve_ May 16th 2014 7:56 am

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by MountainHiker (Post 11263360)
That website is hit and miss, it's all based on user submissions.

Clearly none of us are users: http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living...ty2=Birmingham

Calgary v. Birmingham (is Birmingham average?) - they come out almost the same overall, booze and rent are obviously way more in Calgary and fuel is obviously way more in Birmingham.

However one of the biggest differences is on cheese, which it says is 43% more expensive in Birmingham - and the one thing we all agreed on was that it was more expensive here! :lol:

So yeah, I wouldn't read too much into it. But anyway I don't think there's that massive of a difference overall, although you're going to notice bread and booze for sure.

Steve_ May 16th 2014 8:01 am

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11263087)
In the UK a great number of people can propel themselves to Waitrose using shank's pony, a bicycle, or a bus. It doesn't matter that the groceries might be five pee more in the UK if the cost of hacking across the tundra through relentless blizzards to fetch them in Canada exceeds the value of the goods themselves.

But you don't have to go as often because fridges and houses are larger here, which is presumably why the item size is usually larger here too because you can store it. So instead of going say, 2-3 times a week you go once a week which is a big saving and electricity costs less so no downside to the larger fridge. Also, fuel is cheaper, so I would expect it's cheaper here if you include your trip.

withabix May 16th 2014 8:07 am

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11263040)
I see they have Fray Bentos Steak & Kidney pies (and all the others) for half price.


There's nothing in them any more.

Just a balloon crust, some gravy and one piece of Pedigree Chum.

MikeUK May 16th 2014 9:31 am

Re: Price comparison
 
Budget levels were deliberately matched..
It just that found we could fit more, and sometimes better into it that proved interesting..

I think when I moved over to Canada 14yrs ago, it was genuinely cheaper
But after many value hikes every time the CAD dollar got close or on parity with the US dollar, that difference slowly eroded, I don't think its there anymore...

BristolUK May 16th 2014 11:22 am

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11263503)
.....Any jobs out there...lol

Yes, but snow too. :(

dbd33 May 16th 2014 1:06 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 11263687)
But you don't have to go as often because fridges and houses are larger here, which is presumably why the item size is usually larger here too because you can store it. So instead of going say, 2-3 times a week you go once a week which is a big saving and electricity costs less so no downside to the larger fridge. Also, fuel is cheaper, so I would expect it's cheaper here if you include your trip.

But people are bigger here. I assume that, in order to maintain, or indeed, to initially establish, their bulk, people in Canada must eat more.

Scribble May 16th 2014 3:16 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11263060)
I've seen that site before. It was way off.

Just checked it again. Still way off.

One bedroom apartment $683 or downtown @ $733 :eek:

My duplex rents for $640 2 bed and $540 for 1 bed. That's upstairs plus attic and balcony and downstairs plus basement and deck. About 10 minutes walk from downtown and there are plenty of good places for less. I check the paper and kijiji from time to time and most rents are lower than mine.

Pretty easy to get 733 in montreal

BristolUK May 16th 2014 11:59 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Scribble (Post 11264053)
Pretty easy to get 733 in montreal

It may well be. My comparison was the site is overestimating by about $200 for Moncton.

The site says $612/$878 for Montreal but there are 12 times as many submissions so probably more accurate.

My mother in law was a 20 minute drive from downtown Montreal three years ago and paid less than $600 for a 3 bedroom apartment!!

Steve_ May 20th 2014 12:56 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by withabix (Post 11263696)
There's nothing in them any more.

Just a balloon crust, some gravy and one piece of Pedigree Chum.

I sometimes think to myself I'm better off in Calgary because you get expats who start up businesses to cater to other expats and usually they do a better job of it than a big business abroad would do. Yes they charge more but the quality is better. I can think of two butchers, MacEwan's and Valbella's who turn out generally decent stuff, small butchers like that wouldn't stand a chance in the UK nowadays.

Scribble May 20th 2014 1:46 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 11269088)
I sometimes think to myself I'm better off in Calgary because you get expats who start up businesses to cater to other expats and usually they do a better job of it than a big business abroad would do. Yes they charge more but the quality is better. I can think of two butchers, MacEwan's and Valbella's who turn out generally decent stuff, small butchers like that wouldn't stand a chance in the UK nowadays.

They would if the people in the UK realised the rubbish they are being sold by Sainsberescos.

Tirytory May 20th 2014 1:55 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 11263687)
But you don't have to go as often because fridges and houses are larger here, which is presumably why the item size is usually larger here too because you can store it. So instead of going say, 2-3 times a week you go once a week which is a big saving and electricity costs less so no downside to the larger fridge. Also, fuel is cheaper, so I would expect it's cheaper here if you include your trip.

Electricity is cheaper in the UK. Way cheaper. Fuel might be cheaper here but I spend more here on fuel as the distance I cover is way more. I used to walk everywhere in the UK. Don't do that much anymore. I think everything is generally cheaper in the UK actually, and we've only just left.

Aviator May 20th 2014 2:04 pm

Re: Price comparison
 

Originally Posted by Tirytory (Post 11269136)
I think everything is generally cheaper in the UK actually, and we've only just left.

Partly maybe because of the current FX. Although when I was there last fall, I thought how expensive many things were compared to here.

When we arrived, it was way cheaper here with a GBP worth $2.30CAD

The cost of things is immaterial, what matters is how much you have left after the cost of living. We were and still are way better of than when living in the UK.

Former Lancastrian May 20th 2014 2:08 pm

Re: Price comparison
 
So you fancy a glass of Ribena or need to make a lager and black

At Tesco a 1 litre bottle is on sale actually 2 for 4 quid.
At London Drugs a 1 litre bottle is on sale for $7.99

Now you can choose to pay the $7.99 plus tax or bitch and moan and have a relative ship it over which Im guessing will cost more than buying 2 x bottles at London Drugs;)
Ex pats need to accept that UK products they are used to cost more in Canada as they are shipped to distributors in bulk who then take their cut from selling to stores who then have to make their profit.
Many companies will not sell directly to stores and force them to go through an authorized distributor in Canada. Even those that will sell direct there usually is a minimum quantity or value of order.
Get used to it or try to find Canadian equivalents though Ribena is a tough act to follow.


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