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-   -   PR Card Renewal. (https://britishexpats.com/forum/canada-56/pr-card-renewal-770042/)

Almost Canadian Dec 19th 2012 1:03 am
Re: PR Card Renewal.
 
Originally Posted by Edo (Post 10441754)
Havent read all the replies but just out of curiosity why would you want to renew your PR card if you could get a Canadian passport once it expires? PR cards are valid for 5 years and if you have lived in Canada for 730 days out of 5 years then you are eligible to apply for citizenship arent you. Unless, someone wants to live in Canada just as a PR and having to keep renewing their PR status obviously?
No. That is the number of days required to maintain PR, not to be valid for a citizenship application.

Edo Dec 19th 2012 1:14 am
Re: PR Card Renewal.
 
Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 10441765)
Citizenship applications can take two years these days. So even if you haven't left the country and apply ASAP there's no guarantee you'll have a Canadian passport before the card expires, and if you've been away a few months there's a very good chance you won't.
Alright that explains it.

I am not sure what this means? I got my PR status in 2010 but dont intend to move to Canada until 2013 so I probably will have to renew my PR card once it expires. But is there a possibility I might have problems when I apply for citizenship once I qualify?

MarkG Dec 19th 2012 1:18 am
Re: PR Card Renewal.
 
Originally Posted by Edo (Post 10441799)
But is there a possibility I might have problems when I apply for citizenship once I qualify?
No, you just need to be able to document the three years in four, if they ask for proof. My point was that if you've been out of Canada for two months and apply after three years and two months, you may well still not be a citizen before the card expires.

Edo Dec 19th 2012 1:43 am
Re: PR Card Renewal.
 
Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 10441807)
No, you just need to be able to document the three years in four, if they ask for proof. My point was that if you've been out of Canada for two months and apply after three years and two months, you may well still not be a citizen before the card expires.
OK so in order to maintain PR status, you have to have lived in Canada for 730 days out of 5 years. But in order to be eligible for citizenship, you have to have lived there for 3 out of 4 years?

ArthurBrit Dec 19th 2012 1:52 am
Re: PR Card Renewal.
 
Originally Posted by Edo (Post 10441840)
OK so in order to maintain PR status, you have to have lived in Canada for 730 days out of 5 years. But in order to be eligible for citizenship, you have to have lived there for 3 out of 4 years?
You got it.

That is the easy way to think about it - Like most things though there are circumstances when you can gather 'time in Canada' without actually being in Canada.

You can read all about this on the CIC citizenship papers (online), there is also a calculator on there website which you can use around the point you consider yourself eligible, this calculator will either say you have enough time or do it again in 2 months time or something like that.

If you are married to a Canadian then you already have a leg up so to speak because if you leave Canada with your Canadian spouse (on holiday say) then you do not need to deduct those days.

Edo Dec 19th 2012 2:26 am
Re: PR Card Renewal.
 
Thanks for your replies everybody. My confusion is now cleared. Dont think I will be able to gather 'time in Canada' without actually being in Canada unless something drastically changes in my life. Although ideally I'd like to delay the next year's planned move a little bit more but dont want to risk losing the hard earned PR.

Almost Canadian Dec 19th 2012 2:59 am
Re: PR Card Renewal.
 
Originally Posted by ArthurBrit (Post 10441856)
You got it.

That is the easy way to think about it - Like most things though there are circumstances when you can gather 'time in Canada' without actually being in Canada.

You can read all about this on the CIC citizenship papers (online), there is also a calculator on there website which you can use around the point you consider yourself eligible, this calculator will either say you have enough time or do it again in 2 months time or something like that.

If you are married to a Canadian then you already have a leg up so to speak because if you leave Canada with your Canadian spouse (on holiday say) then you do not need to deduct those days.
For citizenship they do, it is only for PR they don't.;)

ArthurBrit Dec 19th 2012 3:01 am
Re: PR Card Renewal.
 
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 10441990)
For citizenship they do, it is only for PR they don't.;)
Yeah re-reading it it did sound like I was commenting on both.

For PR you need 2 out of 5 years present.

For citizenship there is a little flexibility.

In my opinion to make the process easier just think of it as 2 out of 5 for PR and 3 out of 4 for citizenship (then if you really can't gather this look in the guides to see the 'allowance for individual cases).


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