Potential move to Ontario (GP). Advice needed please!
Dec 12th 2013, 5:03 am
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Re: Potential move to Ontario (GP). Advice needed please!
Thanks every one,
Siouxue, I have read the first link but the second link is showing an error.
Could you possibly resend it,
Ta
Siouxue, I have read the first link but the second link is showing an error.
Could you possibly resend it,
Ta
Dec 12th 2013, 11:07 am
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Re: Potential move to Ontario (GP). Advice needed please!
Only one life. You gotta live it - jump off the fence & you'll never have any regrets. Even if you decide that Canada is not for you, at least you tried it out.
Muskoka - is oh soooooo snowy. Friends who live 30km from Bracebridge got snowed in yesterday - couldnt get out to work, so they took great joy is showing me the snow via skype
. I am sooooo tempted to pop over for New Year 
Toboganning and snowmobiling New Years Eve - just doesn't get any better than that
Muskoka - is oh soooooo snowy. Friends who live 30km from Bracebridge got snowed in yesterday - couldnt get out to work, so they took great joy is showing me the snow via skype
. I am sooooo tempted to pop over for New Year Toboganning and snowmobiling New Years Eve - just doesn't get any better than that
Dec 12th 2013, 6:59 pm
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Re: Potential move to Ontario (GP). Advice needed please!
Hello every one,
I am new to this forum and have found it quite useful.i have read all 5 pages in this thread and am really impressed with some of the members who are very patiently answering questions since March 2012.
My question is slightly different. I looked in to working in Ontario and started the procedure. Now I have a job offer and have got confused whether I should make the move.
For those who have relocated, are you happy with your decision.
Are FPs paid more for the same amount of work than GPs.
Is work load less or only different to the UK
for those who have children,are your children happy and settled in their schools?
Thanks you all for your input. It makes us feel we are not alone.
Gifted.
I am new to this forum and have found it quite useful.i have read all 5 pages in this thread and am really impressed with some of the members who are very patiently answering questions since March 2012.
My question is slightly different. I looked in to working in Ontario and started the procedure. Now I have a job offer and have got confused whether I should make the move.
For those who have relocated, are you happy with your decision.
Are FPs paid more for the same amount of work than GPs.
Is work load less or only different to the UK
for those who have children,are your children happy and settled in their schools?
Thanks you all for your input. It makes us feel we are not alone.
Gifted.
OP...welcome to the forum, obviously being a GP (licence to print wonga), you can expect "loads a money"
It's no suprise that you have managed to secure work, as Ontario is crying out for Docs, and some of the ones trained here, are going stateside for a better pay.
Don't just focus on the big smoke of Toronto....look further along the 401 east or SW. Heck there is a even a new big hospital in Thunder Bay or is it North Bay?
Be prepared to hear that you lot get all the glory, and the ones doing the actual work, are badly paid...there is a thread on that here. I guess it's your fault that some people didn't go to medical school
Dec 12th 2013, 9:18 pm
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So shall I come to Canada ....or wait for NHS to get better.........
Dec 12th 2013, 9:18 pm
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Dec 13th 2013, 1:15 pm
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Dec 13th 2013, 5:40 pm
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thanks for your advice. Makes me feel opitimistic.
yes I can return if (God forbid) if all doesnt go well.
Dec 14th 2013, 9:13 pm
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Hi Gifted. Similar to you I'm a UK GP heading to Canada. I have a job lined up in Alberta and should be moving out there in the next couple of months if all goes to plan.
I would say that doing a visit is a real must.
I found it massively reassuring when I went across job hunting. I toured a few towns and was able to speak to a lot of British and South African Docs who had made the move and had pretty much universally great things to say about it.
I did end up choosing a town to live in that I would not have gone to had I been making the decision from the UK based on Google searches!
The quality of life in comparison to UK GPs is really fantastic and my family are really looking forward to making the move.
Just waiting for our work permit to be confirmed now - a painfully slow process.
I would say that doing a visit is a real must.
I found it massively reassuring when I went across job hunting. I toured a few towns and was able to speak to a lot of British and South African Docs who had made the move and had pretty much universally great things to say about it.
I did end up choosing a town to live in that I would not have gone to had I been making the decision from the UK based on Google searches!
The quality of life in comparison to UK GPs is really fantastic and my family are really looking forward to making the move.
Just waiting for our work permit to be confirmed now - a painfully slow process.
Dec 15th 2013, 4:05 am
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Re: Potential move to Ontario (GP). Advice needed please!
My childrens' school (in Toronto, at College and Jarvis) had only a car park, for sport they took the TTC bus to the ice rink at Moss Park. I don't think schools in Canada need grass as sport seems to consist only of ice hockey.
I thought of you this morning tirytory (well, the virtual you). A colleague remarked "I'm glad I don't live in Muskoka, they're to get nearly two feet more snow before the weekend". There's six inches or so on the ground now. Arriving in winter will be, er, challenging.
I thought of you this morning tirytory (well, the virtual you). A colleague remarked "I'm glad I don't live in Muskoka, they're to get nearly two feet more snow before the weekend". There's six inches or so on the ground now. Arriving in winter will be, er, challenging.
So yes, damn snow.
Dec 15th 2013, 4:10 am
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Ha ha too true. Bit worried about the driving aspect. But the child in me is delighted at the moment, and I'm keeping a geeky big brother eye on the webcams of Bracebridge on snow watch.....I surely have other things to do!!. The school secretary has just sent me pics of her snowy back garden, she's like my nbf she's been so helpful and nice!
Siouxie is ever helpful and pointed out my thread where I fully vented my fears. I am pleased to say though for the time being I've had no further doubts and I'm sure we've made the right decision to go. I'd go as far to say I'm terribly excited. Obviously we don't know how the work thing will pan out, so maybe you will get some doctors answer you, give us a few months and probably we'll know a little more.
. The school secretary has just sent me pics of her snowy back garden, she's like my nbf she's been so helpful and nice!Siouxie is ever helpful and pointed out my thread where I fully vented my fears
. I am pleased to say though for the time being I've had no further doubts and I'm sure we've made the right decision to go. I'd go as far to say I'm terribly excited. Obviously we don't know how the work thing will pan out, so maybe you will get some doctors answer you, give us a few months and probably we'll know a little more.
Dec 15th 2013, 4:12 am
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OP...welcome to the forum, obviously being a GP (licence to print wonga), you can expect "loads a money"
It's no suprise that you have managed to secure work, as Ontario is crying out for Docs, and some of the ones trained here, are going stateside for a better pay.
Don't just focus on the big smoke of Toronto....look further along the 401 east or SW. Heck there is a even a new big hospital in Thunder Bay or is it North Bay?
Be prepared to hear that you lot get all the glory, and the ones doing the actual work, are badly paid...there is a thread on that here. I guess it's your fault that some people didn't go to medical school
It's no suprise that you have managed to secure work, as Ontario is crying out for Docs, and some of the ones trained here, are going stateside for a better pay.
Don't just focus on the big smoke of Toronto....look further along the 401 east or SW. Heck there is a even a new big hospital in Thunder Bay or is it North Bay?
Be prepared to hear that you lot get all the glory, and the ones doing the actual work, are badly paid...there is a thread on that here. I guess it's your fault that some people didn't go to medical school
Dec 15th 2013, 4:15 am
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Re: Potential move to Ontario (GP). Advice needed please!
I wouldn't be. We're south of there but living rurally in a reasonably snowy area and whiz along fine in a Beetle. VWs seem to be the commuting vehicle of choice, presumably because they come in diesel versions. The worst problem is visibility, if it's snowing and dark you can't see where you're going, but that's the same as fog which you'll have experienced.
What I would be concerned about is the clearance aspect. Initially I'd be tempted to move to an apartment or townhouse complex. Failing that, a house with no driveway.
What I would be concerned about is the clearance aspect. Initially I'd be tempted to move to an apartment or townhouse complex. Failing that, a house with no driveway.
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Dec 15th 2013, 7:38 am
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Hi Gifted. Similar to you I'm a UK GP heading to Canada. I have a job lined up in Alberta and should be moving out there in the next couple of months if all goes to plan.
I would say that doing a visit is a real must.
I found it massively reassuring when I went across job hunting. I toured a few towns and was able to speak to a lot of British and South African Docs who had made the move and had pretty much universally great things to say about it.
I did end up choosing a town to live in that I would not have gone to had I been making the decision from the UK based on Google searches!
The quality of life in comparison to UK GPs is really fantastic and my family are really looking forward to making the move.
Just waiting for our work permit to be confirmed now - a painfully slow process.
I would say that doing a visit is a real must.
I found it massively reassuring when I went across job hunting. I toured a few towns and was able to speak to a lot of British and South African Docs who had made the move and had pretty much universally great things to say about it.
I did end up choosing a town to live in that I would not have gone to had I been making the decision from the UK based on Google searches!
The quality of life in comparison to UK GPs is really fantastic and my family are really looking forward to making the move.
Just waiting for our work permit to be confirmed now - a painfully slow process.
thats true, every one I have asked have advised to visit my potential workplace first. But with winter pressure here, and being a mum of school going children, it doesnt help.
I am lucky to have a job offer where my sister lives.she has guided me a lot about the town itself etc, but she is not a doctor. And therefore cannot comment on what my work load vs my income would be. Being a mum I am not keen to work more than I am at the moment aInd can live peacefully on my present income. I would like to work the same for probably a little more (every little helps).This is what I am not getting answers to.will I have to work more for the same income.
Also she finds it hard to compare the schooling of the two countries as she doesnt know much about schools in the UK.
I would highly appreciate you sharing me your researches and experiences.
by the way how long dies the visa procedure take....
thank you once again.
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Dec 15th 2013, 3:05 pm
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Re: Potential move to Ontario (GP). Advice needed please!
Surely the job offer has given you a guide to potential income? I think the short answer is yes, you should be able to earn more in Canada than in the UK on your current hours.
Schooling, whilst I'm not sure how individual schools stack up in Ontario against each other then at the very least the UK has had a damming indictment of its standard recently, coming in very badly against Canada.
I think unless you try something you will never really know! Whereabouts in GTA are you headed?
Edited to add....have you started the "visa" process and certification from RCPSO?
Schooling, whilst I'm not sure how individual schools stack up in Ontario against each other then at the very least the UK has had a damming indictment of its standard recently, coming in very badly against Canada.
I think unless you try something you will never really know! Whereabouts in GTA are you headed?
Edited to add....have you started the "visa" process and certification from RCPSO?