The Plumbers crack
May 5th 2010, 6:54 am
#242
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Re: The Plumbers crack
ahh - I thought I was Speshul
Um, yes I can keep up with my friends because I don't neglect them! That's why they are friends - innit - or am losing the will to live?
Any way, I am off to Whistler for the night with MY FRIENDS from the Uk, who I do not neglect and hence have come to visit me
Um, yes I can keep up with my friends because I don't neglect them! That's why they are friends - innit - or am losing the will to live?
Any way, I am off to Whistler for the night with MY FRIENDS from the Uk, who I do not neglect and hence have come to visit me
you will though.
May 5th 2010, 6:58 am
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Re: The Plumbers crack
Here's me Kate, a working class girl dragged up through the council estates and military bases of a breaking Britain.
[Snipped ramblings about 'when I grew up as a lass we 'ad to walk 25 miles over t'moor to work 23 hrs a day in't mills' accompanied by the Hovis ad (or Dvoraks Symphony No 9 for the edumicated)]
What is so bad in saying a university enhances knowledge.
[Snipped ramblings about 'when I grew up as a lass we 'ad to walk 25 miles over t'moor to work 23 hrs a day in't mills' accompanied by the Hovis ad (or Dvoraks Symphony No 9 for the edumicated)]
What is so bad in saying a university enhances knowledge.
May 5th 2010, 7:01 am
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May 5th 2010, 7:09 am
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Re: The Plumbers crack
One last try,but only because that Greenhill made me laugh my head off. Perhaps I need to talk to you slooooooooowly and simply so that it doesn't upset your fragile minds.
Here's me Kate, a working class girl dragged up through the council estates and military bases of a breaking Britain. I didn't have the privileges of nanny making tea for me, and picnics at Ascot. I haven't drank Pimms on the lawn of Buckingham palace as a lot of you have. it was grim, coal fires and beans on toast when we were lucky. A bath once a week, and avoiding the drug pushers and thugs in school halls. The highlight of the week was Coronation street and the daily paper was the Mirror. sometimes we had the Titbits and If I was a really good girl I got to read the Beano.
Now what chance as a child, did I have of understanding the finer points of life? We didn't discuss the odyessy around the dinner table It was, "did you fill the pools in and what won at Aintree", "have you paid the milkman."
How can you jump from that to the collective unconcious without some education???? A university is a center of learning nice professors are there who point out the nuances of literature, history and philosophy. that would otherwise be missed by someone used to reading the bloody BEANO.
I personally, have had my learning advanced by going to Uni. I have nothing against people who didn't go. For me personally it was beneficial. It has enhanced my understanding of life
I have nothing against engineers, carpenters, plumbers, Scorpios Taureans
thick bar stewards on forums, Whatever.
What is so bad in saying a university enhances knowledge.
Now the snooty will look down their noses at poor little under privileged Kate.
"The working classes should stay in the gutter where their mediocre intellect belongs."
Too bad I crawled out hahahahahhaaa
Here's me Kate, a working class girl dragged up through the council estates and military bases of a breaking Britain. I didn't have the privileges of nanny making tea for me, and picnics at Ascot. I haven't drank Pimms on the lawn of Buckingham palace as a lot of you have. it was grim, coal fires and beans on toast when we were lucky. A bath once a week, and avoiding the drug pushers and thugs in school halls. The highlight of the week was Coronation street and the daily paper was the Mirror. sometimes we had the Titbits and If I was a really good girl I got to read the Beano.
Now what chance as a child, did I have of understanding the finer points of life? We didn't discuss the odyessy around the dinner table It was, "did you fill the pools in and what won at Aintree", "have you paid the milkman."
How can you jump from that to the collective unconcious without some education???? A university is a center of learning nice professors are there who point out the nuances of literature, history and philosophy. that would otherwise be missed by someone used to reading the bloody BEANO.
I personally, have had my learning advanced by going to Uni. I have nothing against people who didn't go. For me personally it was beneficial. It has enhanced my understanding of life
I have nothing against engineers, carpenters, plumbers, Scorpios Taureans
thick bar stewards on forums, Whatever.
What is so bad in saying a university enhances knowledge.
Now the snooty will look down their noses at poor little under privileged Kate.
"The working classes should stay in the gutter where their mediocre intellect belongs."
Too bad I crawled out hahahahahhaaa
May 5th 2010, 7:28 am
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Re: The Plumbers crack
But now you're changing the goalposts yet again, Kate. You need to be clear and concise from the very beginning of a debate. You cannot change the wording to suit yourself when you're becoming overwhelmed by retorts.
First you said that university educated people would want to leave Canada because of a lack of culture. Then you said you were leaving because of your financial situation. Then you say that only university educated people can appreciate culture. Then you say only culture centric university educated people can appreciate culture. And now you admit that anybody can appreciate culture but only those with formal education on culture can appreciate it to its fullest.
Oh dear. I'm going to the garage........
First you said that university educated people would want to leave Canada because of a lack of culture. Then you said you were leaving because of your financial situation. Then you say that only university educated people can appreciate culture. Then you say only culture centric university educated people can appreciate culture. And now you admit that anybody can appreciate culture but only those with formal education on culture can appreciate it to its fullest.
Oh dear. I'm going to the garage........
May 5th 2010, 8:01 am
#250
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Re: The Plumbers crack
I can't do this multiquote thing so I will do you one at a time.
Is not a university education the pinnacle of education in western society?
So yes, you can be self educated, but a university education has to be so much richer because profs should really know their subjects.
Is not a university education the pinnacle of education in western society?
So yes, you can be self educated, but a university education has to be so much richer because profs should really know their subjects.
May 5th 2010, 8:04 am
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Re: The Plumbers crack
This obsession with footnotes you and Oakville! What do they matter it's the content, the central idea that counts...I can't find the original article now so I have no idea about footnotes......How I bloody hated doing the bibliography parts on papers, surely you can understand ideas without having a bloody footnote for everything! I know you both can, because you are both obviously bright.
I don't know where I mentioned the Sun it must have been in a footnote. I agree it's terrible reporting, but I love the headlines. They are composed to enrage the masses.
You are clever Caitlin,but I'm not sure what you are trying to argue about here apart from footnotes.
I don't know where I mentioned the Sun it must have been in a footnote. I agree it's terrible reporting, but I love the headlines. They are composed to enrage the masses.
You are clever Caitlin,but I'm not sure what you are trying to argue about here apart from footnotes.
I'm arguing that articles and posts are far easier to read without footnotes, or with proper footnotes- I don't give a whit which one, but in between is just buggy, to use a technical term. Now if yo uhad have just sayd 'so and so state this in this book' and given the straight paragraph, it would have been a lot more comprehensible, and the lack of proper footnoting wouldn't have jumped out like that.
May 5th 2010, 9:03 am
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Re: The Plumbers crack
Entertaining thread this. I have a BA Hons in Photography Film and Television ('arts degree'). I am about to get an MPhil in Pure and Applied Chemistry ('science masters degree'). I may have a university education from both sides but that certainly doesn't mean I understand all art, or all science! One thing I do know is that my arts degree was full of postmodernist nonsense (not dissimilar to the passage quoted above) which was a complete waste of time (give me the practical work any day). Any subject where you can get high marks by waffling about something you are not sure you understand is a made-up subject. The intricacies of postmodernism is just that.
I'm in the process of emigrating to Canada, where my dream is to leave behind my science-based career for a less well-paid self-employed art and craft life.
I'm not sure I fit into any of Kate's categories
I'm in the process of emigrating to Canada, where my dream is to leave behind my science-based career for a less well-paid self-employed art and craft life.
I'm not sure I fit into any of Kate's categories
May 5th 2010, 9:15 am
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