Novocastrian

Quite. And perhaps more to the point, the Frenchies came to Canada before the Brits.

Oink

But so did the Indians.

Steve_

Well I think Australians and British people are very racist, it's a fine line as to which are the more racist. But Canadians definitely aren't as racist, not imx anyway. And not as racist as Americans either.

British people I can kind of understand being racist because it's not an immigrant country in the same way Canada is and the US had the whole thing with slavery.

Australia on the other hand I'm a bit non-plussed about, what with those riots over the Lebanese a year or two ago and various other things, such as the way they go about tackling the boat people from Vietnam, putting detention centres in the middle of nowhere or on islands, etc.

Canada has a history of discriminating against the First Nations but Australia seems to still be at it with the aboriginals, as far as I can see.

Also I've read polls on how accepting people are of immigrants, Canada is usually near the top. To some extent I understand that too because Canada isn't as crowded as the UK (so immigrants are more visible in the UK), but once again there have been polls in Australia the last few years that indicate half the population want immigration ended.

Oink

I see the other way. It’s the ubiquitous nature and total acceptability of the racism here that's shocking. It’s not just certain demographics that exhibit it, it permeates all levels of Canadian society. It doesn't matter if they're First Nations, French Chinese or Asian-Indian, coupled with religious intolerance, the constant drone of the bigotry here is appalling. It’s like living in the UK in the 1950s.

fish.01

I think your nationalism might be showing. Australia has far higher percentage of people born overseas than Canada, most of whom have been successfully integrated, just like Canada. Most advanced western democracies are very accepting overall and choosing one over the other is incredibly difficult imo. So easy to have blind spots to your own countries racism while seeing others without nuance and with poor knowledge of the different debates and history in those countries.

MarylandNed

My sister (originally from Ireland) lives in Australia. She's currently working as a freelance accountant and gets assignments from a temp agency. She's been working on her current assignment for a few months now and her boss likes her work so much that he told her he wants to hire her full-time. He added that, of course, he would probably have to hire a local first if one was available to keep the Australians happy but that he'd hire my sister if he couldn't find one. My sister has been in Australia at least 10 years and is an Australian citizen. She said this attitude is rife over there.

economy_1

Majority of the People unfortunately come to Canada because of US.US have so many weather options Hawaii, Puerto Rico, California, Florida etc. etc. British Columbia is very beautiful and nice but we cannot compare it with US because there are so many options in USA.US is still a lot economical,bigger market and cheaper than Canada. My friend was charged with $60 per person Turkish visa fees (on arrival) on Canadian Passport whereas on US/UK passport same Turkish visa fees is $20 per person.

The best thing about US is there is a option of taking or not taking health insurance.If you are not too much sick and in your 20ies you don't need to buy health insurance (and un-necessarily keep pay for it).I dont want to pay for something which I am not using.

MarylandNed

Actually the Affordable Care Act requires that everyone in the US has at least minimum health coverage. Just because you don't get sick often, doesn't mean you won't need healthcare at some point. For example, you could be involved in an accident or incident at any time that requires medical treatment. Do you ever buy car, home or life insurance?

colchar

Where the hell do you live to allegedly see that much racism in Canada?

colchar

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]


http://www4.hrsdc.gc.ca/[email protected]?iid=38

colchar

This is ridiculous.





Apparently you haven't been reading the news much over the last year.

fish.01

That confirms what I said so I presume you are making another point from the links ?

fish.01

Anecdotes are only worth so much as there are anecdotes to prove anything about any country. There is a law that you can only offer temporary residents a job if it can not be done by a local. He may have presumed she was on a temporary visa or just be an idiot. Around 25% of Australians are born overseas and 45% of Australians have a parent born overseas. Must be approaching one of the highest percentages in the world. You cannot reach percentages like that and still be far more resistant to outsiders working than other countries. Our work places are "full" of people from all over, just like Canada's. Facts are facts. UK only has 11% born overseas. Ireland ?

dbd33

20% of people in Canada born overseas as of 2006:

http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-re...557/p2-eng.cfm

A massively higher proportion in the cities of course.

There's a lot of racism here but I thought Australia was more overtly old fashioned; you don't see bars here that are just for non-white people (granted though I haven't been to the wasteland between Thunder Bay and Calgary), you don't see people hitting their children in public and, if a woman pays for something in Canada, they don't give the change to her husband. Being in Australia seemed to me to be like living in a rugby song though I suppose Eskimo Nell must be up here somewhere.

scrubbedexpat091

Granted the Aussies around here may very well be biased because they love Canada, but all the ones I meet locally are dying to find ways to live in Canada as its apparently so much better here.

Now of course I haven't a clue, only been to Australia once and only for 2 weeks, so can't have a valid view of how the country really is since experiencing it as a visitor is not the same as a resident.

My ex ended up marrying an Australian as he was desperate to stay in Canada.

Seems to be a lot of them around these parts wanting to stay here for various reasons, not sure why, I'd kind of like to live in Australia, always been a bit of a dream of mine, but one that can't happen.