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Re: OUT OF MY MIND WITH WORRY

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Originally Posted by gillian_11 (Post 7146565)

I am now left thinking that most of the people on this forum, aren't on here to offer advice at all, they just like the buzz from hearing about others misfortune!!!!

http://witchdoctor.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/bull.jpg

Most of the people I know on here are pretty reasonable. Your son stayed beyond his time and is being deported as would anyone else in the same situation. End of problem.

His disability is not relevant except to gain sympathy for him to stay in Canada.

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Originally Posted by gillian_11 (Post 7146565)

I would like to thank all the people on this forum who have been helpful, I reserve judgement on all the aggresive answers I have received. I am now left thinking that most of the people on this forum, aren't on here to offer advice at all, they just like the buzz from hearing about others misfortune!!!!

he,s an illeagle immigrant,,,if you read of a similear case in the UK youd most probably be one of the loudest voices demanding he be deported

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Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 7146544)

So telling her the truth is 'having a go' now:(

No, of course not. It's just I can't see why you feel the need to post a comment such as the one below, to me it looks like you are having a dig.

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then as you are his mummy why dont you take him in:confused:

iaink's response was honest and civil, and being civil isn't too much to ask is it

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 7146557)

Seriously, if this is for real, his best bet is to face the reality, tidy up his affairs here, and not pay any more money to a lawyer who is stringing him along despite there being absolutely no grounds for him to be granted leave to stay.

Look at it this way, at least you will see him again soon:)

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Canada cannot refuse PR to someone just because they are disabled. They can and do refuse PR to people who have medical conditions who are likely to place an excessive demand on the heath system.

I was granted PR and I have a serious disability. Subsequently I have had to have referrals for expensive treatment. Noone is threatening to deport me because of this.

Your son's situation is unfortunate but he applied and lost, that's the way of things.

He will do fine back in the UK with family and welfare state to support him.

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Originally Posted by Sue (Post 7146584)

No, of course not. It's just I can't see why you feel the need to post a comment such as the one below, to me it looks like you are having a dig.

iaink's response was honest and civil

because she expects Canada to look after him,when she,s not willing to

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Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 7146598)

because she expects Canada to look after him,when she,s not willing to

You are making more wild assumptions, as well as continuing to be offensive.

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Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 7146618)

You are making more wild assumptions, as well as continuing to be offensive.

:rofl::rofl: oh come on cant you see this is a wind up thread,,any way its friday and BIG SUE is on my case now:p:p

Re: OUT OF MY MIND WITH WORRY

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Originally Posted by gillian_11 (Post 7146316)

in 1998 my son, aged 25 moved to Vancouver and was working as a truck driver, loving his life in Canada, until he had an accident, which has left him pin a wheelchair. Obviously, he could not carry on driving! He returned to England on 2000, but there was nothing here for him. He could not even get accomodation near to family and friends, and early in 2002, he went back to Canada, settling eventually in Winnipeg. He unfortunately, had a collision with a taxi (yes, whilst in his wheelchair). which left his shoulder damaged, meaning that he is not as mobile as he once was. He has been trying to claim from Manitoba Oublic Insurance since 2002. They seem to deny every claim.
Now today he has just found out he is being DEPORTED on Tuesday 13th.
I have spoken to his lawyer in Winnipeg, who says that an appeal will not be considered, his medical funding has been stopped, and his status has been lifted ( whatever that means).
Does anyone know what happens when someone is deported, where do they fly them to, and what happens to the person.

Anyone considering immigration to Canada, Just don't become seriously disabled or you will be deported!!!!!:curse::mad::frown::(:broken_heart::c onfused:

Nobody on here can give you firm advice, that is what you hire a lawyer for. Humanitarian grounds won't wash with CIC for someone who lives in the UK, does not face persecution there or have dependents in Canada with a right to live here. I think what you were looking for from the govt. was compassion, but the cold truth of it is that as hard as it may be, your son overstayed his permit, is not able to work and is not entitled to any government assistance. Canada is a compassionate country, taking in many refugees from countries where they face persecution, as well as being active in peacekeeping around the world. However, as hard as it may seem, the government owes a duty to the people (hard to believe sometimes) to ensure there is not undue burden on the health care system or social system. They also have to determine where a precedence may be set, your son, as important and singular as he is to you, is one of many cases CIC see each year and have to evaluate. This is another case in BC where immigration made an unpopular determination.

You may have ruffled a few feathers with the last sentence of your post, which is quite untrue. If somone is legally entitled to live in Canada they will not be deported based in illness or disability.

It is very difficult for you both I feel sure, however it may help to accept the inevitable & move forward. It may be easier for your son and yourself once you are reunited.

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Originally Posted by gillian_11 (Post 7146316)

I am really sorry to hear about your son's situation. However, the reality is that he has no right to stay, and he has overstayed his visa. In fact it sounds like he came back in without the required visa. You cannot simply stay past the "expiry date", although CIC does give a few weeks grace. You have to leave the country and apply from outside to come back in. I have dealt with this situation with a family member in the past, so I do understand how it works. It sounds like your son applied to stay under Humanitarian & Compassionate grounds, and has been denied. This is a long process, so the deporation is not sudden at all. He would have had lots of warning that it would likely happen. In our case my relative was granted H&C grounds to stay as a permanent resident. But it really does have to be extenuating circumstances.

I would imagine they will put him on a flight to Heathrow. He won't just be dumped. He will have time to let you know flight details. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by gillian_11 (Post 7146565)

Gillian, I felt very sorry when I read your previous messages. Whatever the outcome, I believe you have the simpathy of most people who write in this forum, as a concerned parent. Hopefully, in the UK, as a citizen of this country, your son will be able to receive treatment and be close to family. It looks a whole lot better than to be alone in a country where he's not welcome and is at the mercy of that kind of authority.

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Originally Posted by Maedros (Post 7146950)

It looks a whole lot better than to be alone in a country where he's not welcome and is at the mercy of that kind of authority.

Being welcome, or that kind of authority has nothing to do with it. The law is quite clear, everyone has to follow it and accept it. If an individual was in the UK, the US, Australia or another country under the same circumstances most likley a similar scenario would unfold there.

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Yes there was a case like this in the UK, where someone was wanting to stay for medical reasons (I think dialysis, or something of that nature). As far as I am aware she was still deported.

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Iain's comment was not rude or having a go - he was just being truthful. I can't see the point in candy coating the situation. It is what it is.

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Originally Posted by nooka (Post 7147315)

Yes there was a case like this in the UK, where someone was wanting to stay for medical reasons (I think dialysis, or something of that nature). As far as I am aware she was still deported.

"Googled" about the case, and found this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ama_Sumani

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Originally Posted by Maedros (Post 7147489)

"Googled" about the case, and found this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ama_Sumani

That's the one. Very sad really