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Re: Oath to the Queen
Would '**** me Liz, Phil the Greek is looking a bit old these days' count as an oath to the Queen?
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Re: Oath to the Queen
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 4765373)
I couldn't find it on CBC either. His comparison of the Queen with Hitler was pretty disgusting, and I'm no Royalist.
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Re: Oath to the Queen
If he likes a republic why didn't he stay in his home country, Trinidad and Tobago:frown:
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Re: Oath to the Queen
Originally Posted by Liana
(Post 4767030)
If he likes a republic why didn't he stay in his home country, Trinidad and Tobago:frown:
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Re: Oath to the Queen
No :confused:
He should be more respectful as all immigrants should be though. If he had wanted to continue living in a better republic he should have gone to the US. |
Re: Oath to the Queen
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 4765730)
But not an Australian, at least according to the 1995 Commonwealth Parliamentary Library cited on wikipedia. According to them:
"The Queen does not fall within the categories of citizenship by birth, adoption, descent, or grant listed in the Australian Citizenship Act 1948. All Australian citizens are subjects of the Queen in right of Australia. The Queen cannot be her own subject, as one only exists in relation to the other, and the two cannot as such be combined." Not sure about this really, but it's interesting enough. Similarly in Her role of Queen of Canada, She is Canadian but more than a simple Canadian citizen. |
Re: Oath to the Queen
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
(Post 4766406)
Would '**** me Liz, Phil the Greek is looking a bit old these days' count as an oath to the Queen?
And he was almost certainly British by birth (with naturalisation irrelevant) because of the Sophia Naturalization Act. |
Re: Oath to the Queen
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 4769046)
By the same standard, the Queen cannot be a British citizen either. As Monarch of the United Kingdom, She is effectively the personification of the nation and hence is above concepts of "citizenship".
Similarly in Her role of Queen of Canada, She is Canadian but more than a simple Canadian citizen. But be warned, it was well before my time and I might have imagined that whole scenario. |
Re: Oath to the Queen
The Queen wears the Imperial State Crown for the opening of Parliament and always has done I thought. The coronation crown is the St Edward's Crown and is only used for the coronations.
Not sure what you are meaning though:confused:. Do you have a link to that information? |
Re: Oath to the Queen
Originally Posted by Liana
(Post 4770635)
The Queen wears the Imperial State Crown for the opening of Parliament and always has done I thought. The coronation crown is the St Edward's Crown and is only used for the coronations.
Not sure what you are meaning though:confused:. Do you have a link to that information? I think it was that she couldn't wear the Imperial State crown because she hadn't been crowned at that point. The coronation wasn't till the following summer, and the State crown is the symbol of power. Where the sovereignty rests, etc. Remember, the "sovereign", in British terms, is really the "crown", and whoever wears it is really just a caretaker or representative of a much older idea. She hadn't been crowned so not even she could wear it when she opened parliament in 1952. Or something like that. |
Re: Oath to the Queen
Thank you for your response but I am still not sure if that is the case. However perhaps I shall find the document sometime and that can put me right:)
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Re: Oath to the Queen
Originally Posted by Souvenir
(Post 4765573)
It just felt odd to me. I thought I already had lifetime membership to Club Liz.
While we're at it, could someone fix the first few lines of the anthem (English version)? "Our home and native land"? If it was, I wouldn't be at this ceremony, would I? |
Re: Oath to the Queen
Originally Posted by Tableland
(Post 4770643)
I think it was that she couldn't wear the Imperial State crown because she hadn't been crowned at that point. The coronation wasn't till the following summer, and the State crown is the symbol of power. Where the sovereignty rests, etc. Remember, the "sovereign", in British terms, is really the "crown", and whoever wears it is really just a caretaker or representative of a much older idea. She hadn't been crowned so not even she could wear it when she opened parliament in 1952. Or something like that.
For this reason, the Royal Standard is never flown at half-staff. There is never a "vacancy" upon the death of the Monarch. |
Re: Oath to the Queen
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 4765449)
Charles Roach is a lawyer; of course he's disgusting. More than that he's a kind of local Al Sharpton, always keen to get in the paper.
That said, I suppose in this instance he does have a point, Canada is about multi-culturalism; if people here want to be loyal to the Queen, or the Pope, or Osama bin Laden, or <struggles to think of a well known Canadian>. |
Re: Oath to the Queen
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 4772570)
Notwithstanding the above, the Monarch is Sovereign upon ascension to the Throne. Coronation merely symbolises what has already occurrred.
For this reason, the Royal Standard is never flown at half-staff. There is never a "vacancy" upon the death of the Monarch. "The British State Opening of Parliament is known for its magnificence, the use of tiaras by the royal ladies and the use of the Imperial State Crown by the monarch, who sits in the Throne of the magnificent House of Lords to deliver the speech. However, since the Queen had not yet been crowned, she could obviously not wear the Imperial State Crown. And so, Her Majesty wore the splendid King George IV State Diadem." It's from a small website about the Queen, so not sure whey they got this information from - maybe the BBC for all I know. |
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