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Old Nov 16th 2010 | 6:56 am
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Well, new to BE and hello all, any thoughts?
My family and I looked at moving to NS in varying depths in the last 8 years but couldn't as the OH son would need to be 18 to be able to go without permission from his Dad. Also, my OH other son would be around 23/24 by the time things get sorted, meaning he would be to old to come as a dependant and we don't want to leave them behind, they were all for coming too.
We read about the NS CI stream and thought it would be a good way in, we have been to NS 3 times in the last 8 years and really enjoyed it.
We found out you need level 4 equivalent qualifications and more capital than we could realistically get together in a limited time, despite speaking to a couple of RDA's and being told that we would be O.K. if it wasn't for those points, we were prepared to buy a house in NS as a commitment statement.
Oh well, it was a nice idea but I think we'll just have to stick with holidays in NS.

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Old Nov 16th 2010 | 7:27 am
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Hi, and welcome to the forum.

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My family and I looked at moving to NS in varying depths in the last 8 years but couldn't as the OH son would need to be 18 to be able to go without permission from his Dad. Also, my OH other son would be around 23/24 by the time things get sorted, meaning he would be to old to come as a dependant and we don't want to leave them behind, they were all for coming too.
Would your eldest not have qualified for a visa on his own? Remember that NS PNP has a stream specifically for non-dependent children of people who got PR via the PNP. Or he could have done Bunac for a year and then tried to get PR that way, which many other manage.

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We found out you need level 4 equivalent qualifications and more capital than we could realistically get together in a limited time, despite speaking to a couple of RDA's and being told that we would be O.K. if it wasn't for those points, we were prepared to buy a house in NS as a commitment statement.
You need at least one year's post-secondary education, and that could be either yours or your other half's (it doesn't have to be both). If neither of you have that, then why not go back in to education if you are really determined?

If you could afford to buy a house in NS then how could you not show $18,000 which would be the amount of proof of funds required for 4 of you?

Don't give up on it, if you are really determined then there are ways to continue, either through the CIS or another visa route.

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Old Nov 16th 2010 | 8:01 am
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Unfortunately finances won't allow for further education, the closest we come is my financial and mortgage advice certificate (took 6 weeks to study and pass exams) and my OH medical secretarial diploma from college, (a job she no longer wants to do, it is also 15 years old) I need to be working to get by, I also work shifts so can't fit in night school.
The older son is currently at college doing a vehicle mechanics course, struggling to find anywhere that will take him on as an apprentice so what chance he has in NS I wouldn't like to think, he has moderate learning difficulties and employers run a mile at the thought of employing him (tried and tested).
The house idea was to get a cheap and cheerful hut, easily obtainable going off MLS.ca prices for actual homes that leaves nothing towards the required funds, The youngest is at college, with hopes of going on to Uni, this seems prohibitively expensive in NS so more expense.
Anyway thanks for your feedback Christmas O, it is appreciated.
Couldn't quote your replies xmas, how does the quote button work on here?
 
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Originally Posted by mcr1
Unfortunately finances won't allow for further education, the closest we come is my financial and mortgage advice certificate (took 6 weeks to study and pass exams) and my OH medical secretarial diploma from college, (a job she no longer wants to do, it is also 15 years old) I need to be working to get by, I also work shifts so can't fit in night school.
The older son is currently at college doing a vehicle mechanics course, struggling to find anywhere that will take him on as an apprentice so what chance he has in NS I wouldn't like to think, he has moderate learning difficulties and employers run a mile at the thought of employing him (tried and tested).
The house idea was to get a cheap and cheerful hut, easily obtainable going off MLS.ca prices for actual homes that leaves nothing towards the required funds, The youngest is at college, with hopes of going on to Uni, this seems prohibitively expensive in NS so more expense.
Anyway thanks for your feedback Christmas O, it is appreciated.
Couldn't quote your replies xmas, how does the quote button work on here?
Two things - one is that if your eldest is still in full-time education then he'd qualify as a dependent even if he's over 22, and the other is that you don't have to buy a house for the CIS, so why not use the money you had planned to spend on property for your proof of funds instead?

Obviously the education thing is a bit of a problem though, how long was your wife's secretarial cert course? Could she do a further ed course if necessary?

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Thanks xmas.
I meant quoting section of the post like you have done, not the whole post.
We worked of a 4000cdn deposit and 2000cdn relocation funds, still 12000cdn short.
The OH diploma was taken over one year, but as I said it is 15 years old and counting, we wouldn't be able to leave the lads in the U.K. while we get our PR's, nowhere for them to go.
Would an apprenticeship be possible for the eldest?
I should imagine that certainly what I have read anyway that we would be liable for full Uni fees as immigrants.
 
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I meant quoting section of the post like you have done, not the whole post.
Ah, ok. Hit the quote button, then copy the whole quote when it comes up. Then you can paste it and delete anything that isn't necessary each time.

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We worked of a 4000cdn deposit and 2000cdn relocation funds, still 12000cdn short.
A $4k deposit wouldn't be likely (with no credit history, you'd probably have to pay a 30% or so deposit), plus if you'd spent that on a house you wouldn't be able to show it towards your proof of funds. And $2k relocation funds? Sorry to say but that is unlikely to even cover flights for the four of you, never mind the visa costs (approx $2400), insurances, shipping, etc.

Unfortunately, emigration is not cheap!

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The OH diploma was taken over one year, but as I said it is 15 years old and counting,
Doesn't matter, just has to be one year post-secondary - it could be 40 years ago and it wouldn't make any difference.

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we wouldn't be able to leave the lads in the U.K. while we get our PR's, nowhere for them to go.
You wouldn't have to, the youngest would get PR as well, and so would the eldest if he's in full-time education (and has been since he turned 22) as he'd still be classed as a dependent. How old is he btw?

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Would an apprenticeship be possible for the eldest?
Yes, if he's a PR of Canada. As all PR's, he'd have all the rights of a citizen except being able to vote or run for public office.

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I should imagine that certainly what I have read anyway that we would be liable for full Uni fees as immigrants.
Everybody in Canada pays for uni fees, even Canadian citizens. If he's a PR then he'd pay local tuition fees though, rather than international tuition fees.

I think you first need to figure out if you can afford to emigrate, as $2k just isn't going to cover even the basics, so that needs to be the first step and then if you can get the requisite funds together, you can sort out the visa route.

HTH.

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Old Nov 16th 2010 | 8:51 am
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The proof of funds amount is generally considered to be quite low,
Would equity in our house be valid proof?



Doesn't matter, just has to be one year post-secondary - it could be 40 years ago and it wouldn't make any difference.
Even if that's not the career being pursued?



You wouldn't have to, the youngest would get PR as well, and so would the eldest if he's in full-time education (and has been since he turned 22) as he'd still be classed as a dependent. How old is he btw?
21 now, will be around 23/24 by the time sorted I should imagine.
My concern is that the learning difficulties will cause problems with the medical and prospective employers.
You wouldn't know he has learning difficulties btw, he is flying through his course.
 
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Would equity in our house be valid proof?
You can use it in the initial stages (2 estate agents valuations and a mortgage statement) but when you land to activate PR it must be liquid funds in your bank account.

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Even if that's not the career being pursued?
Yep, doesn't matter. You could have a degree in psychology but be a plumber, it wouldn't matter. As long as one of the two of you has at least one year post-secondary education (full-time) then you meet the program requirements.

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21 now, will be around 23/24 by the time sorted I should imagine.
OK, so as long as he stays in full-time education continually he'd still be a dependent. Or you could apply before he turns 22 as his age would then be 'locked in' at the age you applied, but not sure if that is feasible with your youngest son and getting permission to remove him from the UK?

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My concern is that the learning difficulties will cause problems with the medical and prospective employers.
No idea about prospective employers, but it shouldn't cause an issue with the medical. Unless he's deemed to be a danger to public health, or could cost the Canadian authorities more than approx $5k a year in medical costs, it won't affect things.

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No, stupid thing, on other forums I have no prbs
Maybe could sell the house then save like mad for a few years
Another sticking point is employment, I work on the railways here as a guard, I've also been a bus driver and worked in a bank. These occupations seem few and far between in NS.
The OH may fare a little better, has worked in a Post office, supermarket and at a hospital as a secretary so is slightly more flexible, she would quite happily work in Atlantic Superstore if it meant having a job.
Is it possible to have funds and rent for 6-12 months in NS to find your feet then look for a house, or do they want you to buy there and then?
You also mention credit checks, if it's a Canadian bank, do they check your U.K. credit.
And no the lad doesn't even need GP visits for it, so no bother there.

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No, stupid thing, on other forums I have no prbs
Don't worry, you'll figure it out.

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Is it possible to have funds and rent for 6-12 months in NS to find your feet then look for a house, or do they want you to buy there and then?
No, buying a house isn't a requirement for the CIS. You can just rent once you have PR and move there.

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You also mention credit checks, if it's a Canadian bank, do they check your U.K. credit.
Not that I'm aware of, I don't think they can. But you'll have no credit history at all in Canada, which will bring it's own problems. Have a read of the Wiki (on blue bar at top of page) for info on banking/credit ratings etc.

No idea about jobs in NS I'm afraid, have only ever visited there, but I'm sure a search on the forum will bring up relevant threads, or you can start a new thread asking about employment there for people in NS to see.
 
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just to add a quick comment, we are in the process of applying via the NS Community Identified route, and have received our nomination from our chosen county in NS (Kings). We did not have to buy a house, and in fact we were actively discouraged from buying one! They do not want people to be forced to invest in a property only to fail some point of the application process and then be stuck with a house they can't live in.

I would be surprised if an RDA said you had to buy a house to be considered....
 
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Originally Posted by izzi81
just to add a quick comment, we are in the process of applying via the NS Community Identified route, and have received our nomination from our chosen county in NS (Kings). We did not have to buy a house, and in fact we were actively discouraged from buying one! They do not want people to be forced to invest in a property only to fail some point of the application process and then be stuck with a house they can't live in.

I would be surprised if an RDA said you had to buy a house to be considered....
Agree with above, know of one or two RDA's though that have suggested this as a way of showing commitment in order to get their support for the letter of identification.

Question for the OP, which areas are you looking at, which RDA's have you approached?

Just a further note re funds, although lots have used equity in property including myself (2 years ago), NS Immigration has questioned this a little more in recent months, although no one was turned down on this basis, they seemed to have asked to clarify whether any additional savings have been available. It appears in these cases they have used the remaining information in the application to approve the nomination.
 
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We enquired at Lunenburg Queens and Hants County, probably swayed towards Hants because of it's proximity to Halifax.
as stated above, the main concern is employment, even in Halifax the vacancies available do not look promising for our experience.
With regards to the house purchase, we were looking at renting for 6-12 months to find our feet, get some Canadian savings in our name, then look for a house.
 

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