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Old Mar 21st 2009 | 8:51 am
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Does anyone have any tips on the best places to look for work in canada?I been applying for over a year now,i've come to canada to better my chances even and now even moved to Winnipeg.I've been handing out resumes and applying online like crazy,but the minute i mention i have no work permit yet,i get get turned away like the plague,even though i need a job offer to be able to apply for one in the first place.Im even applying for the bottom end jobs and fastfood cashier jobs and still nobody wants to touch me with a barge pole,even tho i past a few interviews with flying colours,the minute i say work permit,they say thanx and goodbye in the end.Please help
 
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Does anyone have any tips on the best places to look for work in canada?I been applying for over a year now,i've come to canada to better my chances even and now even moved to Winnipeg.I've been handing out resumes and applying online like crazy,but the minute i mention i have no work permit yet,i get get turned away like the plague,even though i need a job offer to be able to apply for one in the first place.Im even applying for the bottom end jobs and fastfood cashier jobs and still nobody wants to touch me with a barge pole,even tho i past a few interviews with flying colours,the minute i say work permit,they say thanx and goodbye in the end.Please help
oh gosh, i had the same issue when i was out there for 6 mths and i was looking for an IT job. they all wanted me to have a permit which i could only get with a job offer, kinda sux, i dunno what to sayyy except good look, just keep trying and someone somewhere will respond..............

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Does anyone have any tips on the best places to look for work in canada?I been applying for over a year now,i've come to canada to better my chances even and now even moved to Winnipeg.I've been handing out resumes and applying online like crazy,but the minute i mention i have no work permit yet,i get get turned away like the plague,even though i need a job offer to be able to apply for one in the first place.Im even applying for the bottom end jobs and fastfood cashier jobs and still nobody wants to touch me with a barge pole,even tho i past a few interviews with flying colours,the minute i say work permit,they say thanx and goodbye in the end.Please help
Did you try attending any of the Canadian Immigration Expos held in the UK? Depending on your occupation, they often have employers attending who are looking to hire.
 
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Originally Posted by MarkSurrey
Did you try attending any of the Canadian Immigration Expos held in the UK? Depending on your occupation, they often have employers attending who are looking to hire.
No,I gave up trying from UK,i just booked a ticket for 6 months and Im staying with my girlfriend and her family in Winnipeg.i got good experience in customer service and im good at what i do but no qualifications as such tho.Im trying my very best to apply from within and not have to go back to UK at all.I am very lucky to have people to stay with,but i'd love to be able to work wherever i can while im here.
 
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If you're 18 - 30, have you considered Bunac? Check out www.bunac.org
 
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If you're 18 - 30, have you considered Bunac? Check out www.bunac.org
yep i've looked into it,but then i saw all the insurance fees and other costs and i cant really afford all that.
 
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Originally Posted by kris_66
Does anyone have any tips on the best places to look for work in canada?I been applying for over a year now,i've come to canada to better my chances even and now even moved to Winnipeg.I've been handing out resumes and applying online like crazy,but the minute i mention i have no work permit yet,i get get turned away like the plague,even though i need a job offer to be able to apply for one in the first place.Im even applying for the bottom end jobs and fastfood cashier jobs and still nobody wants to touch me with a barge pole,even tho i past a few interviews with flying colours,the minute i say work permit,they say thanx and goodbye in the end.Please help
'fraid it;s sign of the times, theres lots of folks looking for jobs, to offer to someone who needs a work permit, the company will have to satisfy the gov't that a canadian doesn't want or cant do the job you are offered, which probably isn't going to happen for a burger flipper!, and even if you have specialist trade the company will still have to do paperwork, which given the choice they would rather not!

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Then in all honesty I don't see that you have any option but to return to the UK. You have to understand that even if someone wants to emply you, they have to secure an LMO (labour market opinion) through CIC which they will only get if there isn't a Canadian available to do the job you will be doing. The type of jobs you are talking about won't qualify. If you can't get the money together for Bunac then you are better off returning to the UK where you can work, getting the money together and applying for the bunac visa when you can afford it.
 
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I keep reading some misleading comments about LMO.
The employer doesnt have to prove that there isnt a Canadian who can do the job/or who wants the job. They have to prove that they've tried to recruit a Canadian but failed to appoint someone. There's a subtle difference. It's up to the employer to fill the position with someone they think is the most suitable. If they can evidence that a foreign worker is a better fit than a Canadian, that's the main hurdle sorted.
 
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I cant help thinking that it's going to be become increasing less attractive for employers to spend time seeking LMO's with the current amount of job seekers out there - Also, dont TWP's mean a fixed term contract needs to be offered that ties in with the permit. This might mean that laying people off if needed becomes more difficult for employers if it is the case. which might mean that they would rather recruit a canadian, as it is more flexible for them.

just thinking aloud!!
 
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Originally Posted by snowshoveller
I cant help thinking that it's going to be become increasing less attractive for employers to spend time seeking LMO's with the current amount of job seekers out there - Also, dont TWP's mean a fixed term contract needs to be offered that ties in with the permit. This might mean that laying people off if needed becomes more difficult for employers if it is the case. which might mean that they would rather recruit a canadian, as it is more flexible for them.

just thinking aloud!!
I think you're right. Especially in AB, where theres been a huge labour shortage, it was worth the hassle to go through the process. Now, not so much. This is especially true in the construction, oil & gas industries,
 
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Originally Posted by jericho
I keep reading some misleading comments about LMO.
The employer doesnt have to prove that there isnt a Canadian who can do the job/or who wants the job. They have to prove that they've tried to recruit a Canadian but failed to appoint someone. There's a subtle difference. It's up to the employer to fill the position with someone they think is the most suitable. If they can evidence that a foreign worker is a better fit than a Canadian, that's the main hurdle sorted.
It is not quite that simple. The employer has to demonstrate if called upon to do so, that after advertising that they could not find a suitably qualified or experienced Canadian resident. Failing to appoint someone is not the same. Quite often when a job is vacant the employer is looking to fill the vacancy as quickly and easily as possible. To get a WP the candidate would need to have a minimum amount of experience in the field being applied for, wanting a job, any job is not enough. A hard as it is for people who want to immigrate, employers are looking at their business and its needs, not the employment candidates or just helping someone to get into the country.

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We just advertised a position at the place where I work - we had about 60 applicants, and at least 10 were from out-of-country, where the people said "might be willing to relocate"...I'm sorry, why the heck are you applying for a job in Cambridge, ON when you live in France, you don't have a work permit, and you "might" be willing to relocate?

Every resume we received from out the country that did not specifically say that a work permit would not be necessary got thrown out. We need someone local, and now, not in the future after sorting out work permits, etc.
 
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For unskilled jobs employers need the workers right now, and if there are two applicants, one who can start right away and someone else who they have to apply to the government to employ, maybe, in a few weeks time..... well its easy to see who gets employed.

People with trade skills are having the same problems, as the labor market is a lot looser now, even in places like Winnipeg where the economy is still buoyant, there are people returning from Alberta who can fill jobs, making it even harder for those without work permits.
 
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Well, you might get work ini Brandon at the Maple leaf plant.

They bring a lot of foreign workers into that job, but you might have to start on the cutting room floor, before moving into customer service

http://www.mapleleafcareers.com/Posi...=107059&Lang=0

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