brizzle

Fair point. My evidence comes from personal (and others immigrants) experiences in Canada. In the UK, my experience from a working with UK immigration in lots of foreign countries (everything from standard work permits to foreign doctors wanting to work in the UK -PLAB tests etc).

By the way, squiddgelalert, getting into the UK, is a lot harder than most people imagine. In quite a few countries the visa refusal rate is around 50%. Whilst there is still a fair number of illegals and market for illegal work, it's a lot stricter now than it has been previously.

IMO, in most non-technical/medical fields (where standard quals/registration are needed), in the UK they are interested in your experience and skills wherever they are from, in Canada recruiters appear very rigid and any non-canadian experience/quals/skills are generally put into the 'too difficult' box.

Alan2005

From reading this forum, the "Canada doesn't recongnize my quals" attitude comes from those wanting to work for the government or those in some regulated profession. "Normal people" in the private sector don't seem to have this problem.

brizzle

I agree and I don't want to see this thread descend down a slippery slope, but I don't really care if people are PR/Candian or whatever, but I moved to a country with two official languages, English/French. However, I would suggest that more than half the time, I hear anyone speaking it is Cantonese, Mandarin, Korean, Tagalog, Japanese etc. I'm afraid that it does make me feel the odd one out on occasions. Had I moved to HK, Seoul etc I would be prepared, but I wasn't prepared for the extent of this in Canada.

backhomeagain

The rules for new foreign workers in the UK have only gotten tougher in the last few years. And that is only because the British population are seeing a huge growth in the Muslim and Indian sector, even the Chinese are moving in at a much faster rate.

Reading an article in Decembers Daily Mirror, and I quote, "the Muslim are not content with building a super Mosque in the heart of London, they now want their flag flying on the houses of parliament". One Indian was quoted as saying, "we will soon have the British thinking as we do". Holy crap - does that mean we cannot eat any more meat? We will be told to pray 10 hours a day and will the British woman get told to cover up their faces?

Is it any wonder the British are getting tough on immigrants? And why the sudden spike in race related crimes?

Bali2010

It is clear you are really unhappy, but there are rules in the UK about who works & how.
I currently employ a non British National (Nigerian). He does require a work permit & is only here because his wife is a nurse & over on a visa for that. As her spouse he also has a work permit.

Now I don't claim to be an expert, but I do know it isn't a free for all.
He has also just had to go back for another medical & interview to get their visas extended due to rules changing since he arrived.

My experience of employing a non British / EU national sounds very similar to what I know of Canada too. Targetted occupations, work permits and medicals.

Also, as someone who worked in Finland before they joined the EU - that wasn't easy either, even on a Finnish government language teaching programme - visa needed, registered with local police etc, so no doubt they could escort me out of the country at the right time, as well as a rather intimidating time in immigration.

I imagine there are illiegal immigrants everywhere - Canada is just a long way from anywhere other than the US.

All the best for your return to the UK.

backhomeagain

Thankyou Bali,
Wifey and me are looking forward to our return to the UK at the end of the year.

backhomeagain

People opting to go back to the UK from canada (or any country) can say at least they have sampled life in another country - even if it was a bad move or whatever, there's nothing worse than saying to yourself, " what if ".

We tried it for a while but the rules are are just impossible for us to try and settle down, we cannot plan for anything long term and every time you ask a lawyer for help, you are looking at mega money.

Compared to Canada, England isnt that bad at all

Atlantic Xpat

Providing you don't live in South Norwood, the muslims don't want everyone to wear burka's and there's any jobs left after the illegal immigrants have taken them all?

ExKiwilass

Yeah I'm confused.

2008orbust

el_richo - my comments are just general ramblings not an exhaustive
examination of the south of england

come on man , get a grip

think the lesson so far in this thread is to closely examine what you
hope to gain by moving abroad - pros and cons

be better if the tv had more people featured emigrating to show experiences
instead of the endless shows with people moving to spain or australia

i've only seen 1 canada moving prog and that was toronto - now there IS a couple i could talk about !

they didnt mention any of the emigration process we all know and love - it was all about finding a property and the next step was easy peasy

i've got it recorded somewhere - well funny - woman kept saying "well its everything I want . ." - code for "stuff you mate , i'm happy"

Alan2005

Filling in the forms for immigration to Canada wouldn't exactly make riveting TV.

Lord Vader

This is due to the multicultural policy of the feds. The thing is that the Cantonese (or whomever else) are unlikely to speak punjabi, japanese, etc either. A policy suppose to bring people together is having the opposite effect. People do not mingle as much due to the language barrier. There needs to be a stronger emphasis on speaking english in this country.

lmartin999

Why is this a problem?

Why would this make me lucky?

Perhaps you should consider the lens through which you choose to see the world around you?

ExKiwilass

I don't know how that could be enforced, and I don't know if that's really necessary anyway. The first generation might suck at English but their kids are going to Canadian schools and learning the language and intermingling with all different kinds of people.

dgjamison

I have to disagree, although some mingle, most stay together in their own little clusters and don't mix. We are all more comfortable with our own nationalities, but when we came we also wanted to integrate with our Canadian friends, and become a part of the Canadian way of life, I don't find that with a lot of the Asians sorry, and that is not being racist, as I find them a very gentle and quiet culture, with great respect for their heritage