More 4 X 4 stuff
Aug 29th 2006, 2:55 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by Rich_007
Ford/GM = double crap, super size portion.
$'s speak louder than blingy advertising gimmicks.
Rich.
$'s speak louder than blingy advertising gimmicks.
Rich.
You are right, money talks, bullshit walks. And what trucks do the vast majority of contractors and other business buy when they have to look at the bottom line?
Aug 29th 2006, 2:55 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by dbd33
FWIW I lease Escapes for the "ex". She does about 20,000 miles a year of suburban pottering and nothing goes wrong with them within the three years of the lease. I think a 4x4 is a bit excessive for Ontario but her lawyer wanted her to have "an SUV not more than three years old with leather seats" and the Escapes are cheap.
Aug 29th 2006, 2:55 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by Stuarty
Thanks Bleech, the way house prices are going in Alberta I had better find either a home built vehicle or a much older Import as the cash pot is dwindling and we haven't even landed yet.
Stop paying big bucks for houses Albertans and give us a chance
Rae, have you checked out used prices on the Mitsubishi Endeavor (Shogun Sport) and the Nissan Xterra (Nissan Terrano) they prices seem great and you seem to get lots of SUV for your bucks. The Mitsubishi has a 5 year warranty so there should be lots left on it.
Truck wise the GM Canyon looks like a good bet used.
Who knows, the exchange rate might rocket back up to $2.45 again and we can get lots more
Stuarty
Stop paying big bucks for houses Albertans and give us a chance
Rae, have you checked out used prices on the Mitsubishi Endeavor (Shogun Sport) and the Nissan Xterra (Nissan Terrano) they prices seem great and you seem to get lots of SUV for your bucks. The Mitsubishi has a 5 year warranty so there should be lots left on it.
Truck wise the GM Canyon looks like a good bet used.
Who knows, the exchange rate might rocket back up to $2.45 again and we can get lots more
Stuarty
60k kilometers is F all with the amount you end up driving here.
The used foreign SUV is a good bet. You should get good prices on used Nissans as they bought newer editions out quite recently
Dodge/Jeeps fuel efficiency is the worst out of all the trucks I've driven, and do not believe the figures the dealers will give you, thats why they are always offering continual discounts.
Aug 29th 2006, 2:59 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by Bleech
Umm yeah, doesn't make sense does it. 
The ad says:-
"Was $54,270 less employee discount $47,720. $0 Down only 24 months $599/mo (4)" I look at the bottom of the page and it says "(4)Total Price = $14,376" WTF?!? Unless you've got some sort of balloon payment at the end of the 24 months? Or like you say it's a lease
The ad says:-
"Was $54,270 less employee discount $47,720. $0 Down only 24 months $599/mo (4)" I look at the bottom of the page and it says "(4)Total Price = $14,376"
WTF?!? Unless you've got some sort of balloon payment at the end of the 24 months? Or like you say it's a leaseAt the end of the lease you either walk away.....pay the very large amount left and then you own the vehicle or take out another lease.
You also have to be careful with mileage, you are restricted, although you set the mileage allowed before you sign.
Linda
Aug 29th 2006, 3:03 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by Linda P
At the end of the lease you either walk away.....pay the very large amount left and then you own the vehicle or take out another lease.
You also have to be careful with mileage, you are restricted, although you set the mileage allowed before you sign.
Linda
You also have to be careful with mileage, you are restricted, although you set the mileage allowed before you sign.
Linda
Aug 29th 2006, 3:06 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by iaink
Aye, and you wont want to be taking it off road and scratching it up if you are leasing, unless you have very deep pockets!
Aug 29th 2006, 3:08 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by Bleech
And what's the point of having a 4x4 which never goes offroad?
That was my point though, if you are going to take it off road, and dont plan to keep it at lease end, then dont lease, buy an older one you can afford to buy outright and dont worry about the dings.
Really though if you are going off road something like a TJ designed for the job is better than a leather clad behamoth SUV
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Aug 29th 2006, 3:13 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by iaink
And you have owned how many Ford or GM vehicles here?
You are right, money talks, bullshit walks. And what trucks do the vast majority of contractors and other business buy when they have to look at the bottom line?
You are right, money talks, bullshit walks. And what trucks do the vast majority of contractors and other business buy when they have to look at the bottom line?
Aug 29th 2006, 3:16 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by rae
any thoughts on the escape AWD ian
If I was in the market for something like that, i would give serious consideration to the Subaru Forester too. But Im a great fan of Subarus as cars for the colder parts of Canada in general.
So are these people
Last edited by iaink; Aug 29th 2006 at 3:19 am.
Aug 29th 2006, 3:18 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by iaink
Really though if you are going off road something like a TJ designed for the job is better than a leather clad behamoth SUV
Don't think it's anymore fun than my behemoth though and it struggled getting up some near vertical climbs that my truck flew up. Having said that though I did have to get pulled out of a ditch by a H1
I put it down to my inexperience though as the nearest I've come to offroading before was parking on the beach at Weston Super Mare
Aug 29th 2006, 3:22 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by Bleech
it struggled getting up some near vertical climbs that my truck flew up.
Aug 29th 2006, 3:25 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by Bleech
And what's the point of having a 4x4 which never goes offroad?
..the roads around here are crap
..we get lots of snow
..I find climbing 'up' into a car easier than 'down' being a geratric 38yr old with a bad back
..Cars are boring. North American cars even more so.
..I can!
Mind you I have taken my Jeep offroad so mebbe I have a justification anyway.
Aug 29th 2006, 3:27 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by iaink
Ah, but was it a boggers TJ, or one on steroids designed for the job?
Big wheels and uprated suspension, but plans to turn it into a monster truck next year!
Aug 29th 2006, 3:29 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
Cos.....
..the roads around here are crap
..we get lots of snow
..I find climbing 'up' into a car easier than 'down' being a geratric 38yr old with a bad back
..Cars are boring. North American cars even more so.
..I can!
Mind you I have taken my Jeep offroad so mebbe I have a justification anyway.
..the roads around here are crap
..we get lots of snow
..I find climbing 'up' into a car easier than 'down' being a geratric 38yr old with a bad back
..Cars are boring. North American cars even more so.
..I can!
Mind you I have taken my Jeep offroad so mebbe I have a justification anyway.
Aug 29th 2006, 3:32 am
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Re: More 4 X 4 stuff
Originally Posted by rae
i like this, worried about posts I've read about the state of ford, can't be that bad though can it? definitely like the price, saw brand new ones recently for $20k with all the bits, outrageous, but think this was the FWD, which they neglected to mention in their 4x4 ad! also not supposed to be to clever in snow, slated for poor traction in mags i've picked up and ont'net
The buy out on her current top of the line one, two years old, is $19k+change, so an Escape for 20 new doesn't have many options.
