Making a will - DIY
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Domicile is a concept in UK tax. If you are domiciled in the UK then your world-wide estate is subject to UK inheritance tax when you die (if it is over the threshold).
A person generally has their domicile in the country they were born. To lose your domicile of birth you have to move to another country with the intention of living there until you die. Intention is very hard to prove, especially when you are dead. The advice often given is to buy a burial plot in Canada. That is a bit OTT in my opinion but if this a potential issue you should certainly organize your affairs to make it look like you are not going back. Every tie you retain with the UK allows HMRC to argue that your emigration was not intended to be permanent therefore you have not lost your domicile in the UK. They then hand your estate an inheritance tax bill. Having your one and only will in the UK makes it look as though your intention was to return.
I have used "you" because it was easier to write. These are general principles and not intended to refer to you specifically.
A person generally has their domicile in the country they were born. To lose your domicile of birth you have to move to another country with the intention of living there until you die. Intention is very hard to prove, especially when you are dead. The advice often given is to buy a burial plot in Canada. That is a bit OTT in my opinion but if this a potential issue you should certainly organize your affairs to make it look like you are not going back. Every tie you retain with the UK allows HMRC to argue that your emigration was not intended to be permanent therefore you have not lost your domicile in the UK. They then hand your estate an inheritance tax bill. Having your one and only will in the UK makes it look as though your intention was to return.
I have used "you" because it was easier to write. These are general principles and not intended to refer to you specifically.
... How about the children going home...wouldn't that make intention clear? Best thing to do is not to die just yet obviously!
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Yes, not dying is a useful tax planning technique. If children are involved I think it is important to have a serviceable will. The rest can really be left until you have made firm decisions about your future.
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Not that real experiences are something to be ignored,of course.
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Both countries?
Forget the idea of "countries" when thinking of wills and estates. Ontario has different laws to Alberta. England is different to Scotland.
Normally you require just one will at any one time. Although a lot of lawyers seem to advise making multiple wills, the risk of the different documents contradicting each other is high. Not clear why anyone would want to do that without having an especially good reason.
You say you have a U.K. (English, Scottish or Northern Irish?) will already. That should normally be valid in your Canadian province unless it is defective in some way. For example, if the provincial law required three witnesses and you only required two where the will was made, there might be a problem. Your first step should be to check with a local lawyer if your U.K. will would be acceptable in your province.
Our children at the moment will return to the married UK family friends appointed as guardians.
I have to admit I didn't understand the bit about being non-domicile and tax inheritance.
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There was an interesting (to me at least) case in the Tax Court of Canada (TCC) that involved non-domiciled status in the UK. This was the case of Black, C.
The facts were that Black, C was a Canadian resident who moved to the UK to take up an appointment. He lived in the UK for several years then, after a sojourn in the United States, returned to Canada. The CRA attempted to tax his considerable worldwide earnings for these years.
Black, C argued that he became a tax-resident of the UK and the CRA had no right to tax any of his income for the period until he re-established residence in Canada. The TCC looked at the UK / Canada tax treaty and determined that he indeed had become a tax-resident of the UK. Therefore the CRA could not tax his UK earnings. However, they also noted that Black, C had taken advantage of the non-domiciled rules in the UK. These rules are that if a person is resident but not domiciled in the UK they are only taxed in the UK on their UK sourced income and worldwide earnings remitted to the UK. Any worldwide earnings that stay offshore are free of tax in the UK.
The TCC stated that tax treaties are created to avoid double taxation, not to enable double non-taxation. Therefore, if Black, C's worldwide income was not taxable in the UK it was taxable in Canada.
Black, C is appealing (the case, not his personality).
The facts were that Black, C was a Canadian resident who moved to the UK to take up an appointment. He lived in the UK for several years then, after a sojourn in the United States, returned to Canada. The CRA attempted to tax his considerable worldwide earnings for these years.
Black, C argued that he became a tax-resident of the UK and the CRA had no right to tax any of his income for the period until he re-established residence in Canada. The TCC looked at the UK / Canada tax treaty and determined that he indeed had become a tax-resident of the UK. Therefore the CRA could not tax his UK earnings. However, they also noted that Black, C had taken advantage of the non-domiciled rules in the UK. These rules are that if a person is resident but not domiciled in the UK they are only taxed in the UK on their UK sourced income and worldwide earnings remitted to the UK. Any worldwide earnings that stay offshore are free of tax in the UK.
The TCC stated that tax treaties are created to avoid double taxation, not to enable double non-taxation. Therefore, if Black, C's worldwide income was not taxable in the UK it was taxable in Canada.
Black, C is appealing (the case, not his personality).




You've made me realise that I too had better defer my demise till my affairs are in better order...thank you for starting such a thought prompting thread.
