Remove the supply?

Hair splitting. He had made a fool of Bush the elder so Bush the younger picked a fight with him by claiming he had WMDs. He didn't, of course.

Ah but do you attack everyone who has the thought of invading another country? Should we have intervened against the US to prevent it from attacking Iraq?

Impossible. We have helicopters flying overhead here every day in the summer but they don't make a dent in the marijuana production and that's in a country at peace. In Afghanistan, Colombia, Bolivia, Burma it's infeasible to stop production.

Me too. There was a touching parade, but it was about the two world wars not every military action since.

The title of this thread is lest we forget
Perhaps in your case we should re address it to lest we remember!
You are both offensive and boring.
Your intention is clearly to upset ppl on this site and this thread has proved to others how low you will stoop to achieve your petty aims.

I disagree with the expansion of Remembrance Day to include volunteer troops fighting wars in the current era. That's all.

Well, I don't know about you lot, but I've been out drinking with the Boche.

They seem to be pretty pissed off with western attitudes towards Iraq and Afghanistan too.

One of them, in his Teutonic manner, even pointed out that the Taliban had virtually eliminated poppy based agriculture before they were buggered over by the West.

Another, utterly cynical, Kraut, went so far as to suggest that if the CIA hadn't got involved in the Eighties, none of this would've happened in the first place.

Oi vey! Lest we forget.

The desperation of a claw at the myth of drug dealers giving away product.

You are just clueless.

R.

That's the way to get over the history of wars and death and misery.

And last comment, touche, indeed.

R.

I wouldn't call him cynical just historically accurate

Both sets of ‘terrorists’ in Afghanistan and Iraq were once well backed and trained by the same governments they fight today, because we wanted them fighting somebody else
One could go so far as to say if we hadn't been so keen to see Russia fail in Afghanistan we wouldn't be fighting today, they were at least winning….. until we gave the Taliban high tech weapons……..

Not so Rich....in my last life in Glasgow as a plod, I know of kids that got back from Rehab...having kicked their habit so to speak, were targetted by dealers and GIVEN...yes Given drugs to get them back on the spiral....their investment was repaid in spades! FACT! Some only lasted a few weeks before they were once more hooked.

Sad but true. That was the trouble with many rehab programs...no thought to relocating kids and providing on going support for their first tenuous months back in the world so to speak ...back to the very environment where their addiction began...

Oh well...what do I know....

Having said that I fail to see what this has to do with 11/11?...

Fair enough, but was everyone conscripted in the war to end all wars and WWII? Whether I agree with it or not I get sent, then again I didn't have a masters in politics or military history at 17 yrs old. Twenty years down the line I've lost some of my mates to ill health and RTA's not on ops unlike a lot of personnel. If you choose to remember WWI & WWII and not the rest fine. Why turn it into the Bush/Blair bashing that this thread has become? These people deserve a lot better than they have received, regardless of their nationality.

No, no. This is a public forum and the nature of it means that anything that gets posted will attract different points of view.

I personally found dbd33's point of view worth consideration (it wasn't boring) and has given me something to think about. It really irks me that instead of it leading to debate it just prompts emotional response.

I always think that if you want to post something online and don't want an opposing view then put it in a blog and disable any comments.

^^^^^^^ What he said.

This raises a few good points. I believe that all soldiers from all forces should be remembered whether conscript or volunteered. The war they fought in should also be remembered irrespective if it was the Great War, the Falklands or any other conflict. It is a time to remember the suffering these men and women have gone through for us to live our lifes today.