Law graduate on 1 year work permit, what work might I do without NCA assessment?
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Law graduate on 1 year work permit, what work might I do without NCA assessment?
Hello!
I'm a 25 year old recent graduate with a Letter of Introduction which will allow me to obtain a 1 year work permit when I enter Canada in March 2012.
After finishing 6 years of university I decided I wanted to experience something new and interesting. I've never been to Canada before however I have always wanted to visit; I can't wait to get out of Devon and onto that plane!
I have searched the internet and this forum and I have some understanding of what it would take to qualify as a lawyer in Canada. My question however is to do with the kind of work experience I might be able to get with my current qualifications.
I have a BA in International Relations and Politics, and a Masters in Law (a two year qualifying law degree) both from the University of Sheffield. I have not taken the LPC. It is my understanding that you can only Article once you have the appropriate Canadian qualifications. However I can't find anything on whether I could do a summer program, or how likely it is to be taken on as a paralegal, secretary or other administrative position.
I would like to gain legal experience while I am in Canada with a view to either securing a UK training contract, or (depending on how things work out) going down the NCA route and remaining in Canada. I would prefer this to be full-time paid work, however I am also willing to work in another area (e.g. hospitality) and undertake voluntary experience/unpaid internships.
Any help from someone in the know would be greatly appreciated! My plan is to go to Toronto, however it is not fixed yet so I am open to other ideas.
Many thanks
Felix
I'm a 25 year old recent graduate with a Letter of Introduction which will allow me to obtain a 1 year work permit when I enter Canada in March 2012.
After finishing 6 years of university I decided I wanted to experience something new and interesting. I've never been to Canada before however I have always wanted to visit; I can't wait to get out of Devon and onto that plane!
I have searched the internet and this forum and I have some understanding of what it would take to qualify as a lawyer in Canada. My question however is to do with the kind of work experience I might be able to get with my current qualifications.
I have a BA in International Relations and Politics, and a Masters in Law (a two year qualifying law degree) both from the University of Sheffield. I have not taken the LPC. It is my understanding that you can only Article once you have the appropriate Canadian qualifications. However I can't find anything on whether I could do a summer program, or how likely it is to be taken on as a paralegal, secretary or other administrative position.
I would like to gain legal experience while I am in Canada with a view to either securing a UK training contract, or (depending on how things work out) going down the NCA route and remaining in Canada. I would prefer this to be full-time paid work, however I am also willing to work in another area (e.g. hospitality) and undertake voluntary experience/unpaid internships.
Any help from someone in the know would be greatly appreciated! My plan is to go to Toronto, however it is not fixed yet so I am open to other ideas.
Many thanks
Felix
Last edited by Felixfinch; Oct 7th 2011 at 3:43 pm.
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Re: Law graduate on 1 year work permit, what work might I do without NCA assessment?
Hello!
I'm a 25 year old recent graduate with a Letter of Introduction which will allow me to obtain a 1 year work permit when I enter Canada in March 2012.
After finishing 6 years of university I decided I wanted to experience something new and interesting. I've never been to Canada before however I have always wanted to visit; I can't wait to get out of Devon and onto that plane!
I have searched the internet and this forum and I have some understanding of what it would take to qualify as a lawyer in Canada. My question however is to do with the kind of work experience I might be able to get with my current qualifications.
I have a BA in International Relations and Politics, and a Masters in Law (a two year qualifying law degree) both from the University of Sheffield. I have not taken the LPC. It is my understanding that you can only Article once you have the appropriate Canadian qualifications. However I can't find anything on whether I could do a summer program, or how likely it is to be taken on as a paralegal, secretary or other administrative position.
I would like to gain legal experience while I am in Canada with a view to either securing a UK training contract, or (depending on how things work out) going down the NCA route and remaining in Canada. I would prefer this to be full-time paid work, however I am also willing to work in another area (e.g. hospitality) and undertake voluntary experience/unpaid internships.
Any help from someone in the know would be greatly appreciated! My plan is to go to Toronto, however it is not fixed yet so I am open to other ideas.
Many thanks
Felix
I'm a 25 year old recent graduate with a Letter of Introduction which will allow me to obtain a 1 year work permit when I enter Canada in March 2012.
After finishing 6 years of university I decided I wanted to experience something new and interesting. I've never been to Canada before however I have always wanted to visit; I can't wait to get out of Devon and onto that plane!
I have searched the internet and this forum and I have some understanding of what it would take to qualify as a lawyer in Canada. My question however is to do with the kind of work experience I might be able to get with my current qualifications.
I have a BA in International Relations and Politics, and a Masters in Law (a two year qualifying law degree) both from the University of Sheffield. I have not taken the LPC. It is my understanding that you can only Article once you have the appropriate Canadian qualifications. However I can't find anything on whether I could do a summer program, or how likely it is to be taken on as a paralegal, secretary or other administrative position.
I would like to gain legal experience while I am in Canada with a view to either securing a UK training contract, or (depending on how things work out) going down the NCA route and remaining in Canada. I would prefer this to be full-time paid work, however I am also willing to work in another area (e.g. hospitality) and undertake voluntary experience/unpaid internships.
Any help from someone in the know would be greatly appreciated! My plan is to go to Toronto, however it is not fixed yet so I am open to other ideas.
Many thanks
Felix
I have no idea about Toronto but, as no one but a lawyer can represent someone in Court in Alberta (there are exceptions to this but a discussion is beyond the scope of this response) you will be unlikely to be able to a paralegal type position as you could in the UK. I believe that paralegals are licenced in Ontario too.
Potential articling students summer with the firms they hope to obtain articles with. These students perform similar work to articling students, so I don't know how easily you would be able to work in such an environment without the required legal background. As firms also use such work periods to narrow down those they will offer articles to I don't know whether you would be what they are after.
Give them a call and see
Best of luck
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Re: Law graduate on 1 year work permit, what work might I do without NCA assessment?
Thanks for the reply, looks like it's either a case of thinking long-term and going down the NCA route or doing admin or voluntary work then.
Is it best to call rather than email/write?
Is it best to call rather than email/write?
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Re: Law graduate on 1 year work permit, what work might I do without NCA assessment?
I'm in the process of doing my NCA exams but am also working as a legal assistant in the meantime. Not sure if it's different here in NS. It's been great as it's getting me more familiar with the legal system in Canada - the NCA exams would be much more difficult without it. I found that Legal Aid (not sure how it works in other provinces) were very keen to take me on - not many people want to work for them. Good luck.
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Hi Felix,
I'm assuming from your post that you are planning to come to Canada via the IEC Working Holiday Permit.
From what I understand that permit allows you to work but not study (with the exception of short-term "personal development" courses such as learning a new language) - it is one of the T's & C's stipulated as part of the work permit so may be worth looking into in a little more detail. If you want to study for a professional qualification you'll need a study permit/visa (which prevents you from working).
Best of luck and hope that helps.
I'm assuming from your post that you are planning to come to Canada via the IEC Working Holiday Permit.
From what I understand that permit allows you to work but not study (with the exception of short-term "personal development" courses such as learning a new language) - it is one of the T's & C's stipulated as part of the work permit so may be worth looking into in a little more detail. If you want to study for a professional qualification you'll need a study permit/visa (which prevents you from working).
Best of luck and hope that helps.
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Also, courses of 6 months duration or less do not require a study permit and can be undertaken on a Temp Work Permit.
Welcome to the forum btw.
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I'm in the process of doing my NCA exams but am also working as a legal assistant in the meantime.
I'm assuming from your post that you are planning to come to Canada via the IEC Working Holiday Permit.
Not yet sure what I will do when I come over, the temptation to work in a bar and sail/ski is high to be honest! On the other hand I do want to be a lawyer so it would definitely be good to do something law related even if it is volunteering on the side.
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Re: Law graduate on 1 year work permit, what work might I do without NCA assessment?
Law profession faces an ‘articling crisis’
jeff gray — LAW REPORTER
From Wednesday's Globe and Mail
Published Tuesday, Nov. 01, 2011 7:28PM EDT
Meagan Williams, 30, has a seemingly impressive résumé for a budding lawyer: a law degree from University of Western Ontario, good grades, two summers in a “pretty coveted” position at her school’s legal clinic, experience at mock-trial competitions, and a master’s degree in politics.
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But despite her achievements, she was initially unable to secure one of the 10-month articling positions mandatory for all Canadian law-school graduates who wish to become fully fledged lawyers. And she was not alone.
In what’s been called an “articling crisis,” 12 per cent of Ontario law school graduates were unable to get articling jobs in 2011, according to statistics from the Law Society of Upper Canada.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...rticle2221786/
jeff gray — LAW REPORTER
From Wednesday's Globe and Mail
Published Tuesday, Nov. 01, 2011 7:28PM EDT
Meagan Williams, 30, has a seemingly impressive résumé for a budding lawyer: a law degree from University of Western Ontario, good grades, two summers in a “pretty coveted” position at her school’s legal clinic, experience at mock-trial competitions, and a master’s degree in politics.
More from The Law Page
But despite her achievements, she was initially unable to secure one of the 10-month articling positions mandatory for all Canadian law-school graduates who wish to become fully fledged lawyers. And she was not alone.
In what’s been called an “articling crisis,” 12 per cent of Ontario law school graduates were unable to get articling jobs in 2011, according to statistics from the Law Society of Upper Canada.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...rticle2221786/
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Re: Law graduate on 1 year work permit, what work might I do without NCA assessment?
Hi Felix,
I was just wondering how things are developing for you?
My situation is pretty similar to yours. Law graduate with some legal experience and wanting to go to Canada (Toronto) on the working holiday permit. I have the hope of getting some more legal experience in Canada with the intention (depending how things turn out) to stay.
Thanks,
Brian
I was just wondering how things are developing for you?
My situation is pretty similar to yours. Law graduate with some legal experience and wanting to go to Canada (Toronto) on the working holiday permit. I have the hope of getting some more legal experience in Canada with the intention (depending how things turn out) to stay.
Thanks,
Brian
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Re: Law graduate on 1 year work permit, what work might I do without NCA assessment?
Hi Felix,
I was just wondering how things are developing for you?
My situation is pretty similar to yours. Law graduate with some legal experience and wanting to go to Canada (Toronto) on the working holiday permit. I have the hope of getting some more legal experience in Canada with the intention (depending how things turn out) to stay.
Thanks,
Brian
I was just wondering how things are developing for you?
My situation is pretty similar to yours. Law graduate with some legal experience and wanting to go to Canada (Toronto) on the working holiday permit. I have the hope of getting some more legal experience in Canada with the intention (depending how things turn out) to stay.
Thanks,
Brian
Well I'm still heading out in March, however I'm now heading to Vancouver rather than Toronto. Mainly because of the city, partly because paralegals don't have to be licensed (they do in Toronto) so there might be more chance of work.
At the moment I'm exploring some contacts that I might be able to use... a friend/colleague of my dad has a manufacturing company in Vancouver and is willing to meet me and try to give me a job or refer to lawyer friends... to be honest I'd take some sort of office job even if it wasn't in law as I'm not keen to continue working in bars!
Beyond that... I think I will make some speculative calls in January/ February when it is closer to the time and I am not working so much at the hotel.
Any progress for yourself?
Felix