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Souvenir Oct 11th 2006 4:06 am

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by iaink
You can apply that to Novos comment about citizenship...or my shity french! Fortunatley I get by with English.

I'm tempted but I won't.

iaink Oct 11th 2006 4:09 am

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir
I'm tempted but I won't.

I said I get by...not that Im fluent :p

Garfielduk Oct 11th 2006 9:47 am

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by iaink
You speaking English English, or Glaswegian? ;)
Hell, I have a hard time understanding Glaswegian!


I would have a problem handing out citizenships to anyone who has not integrated to at least the point that they understand and can get by in one of the official languages, and as far as Im concerned the citizenship test is basically only there to determin that...and to teach us that Ontario and Quebec are "Central Canada", so they we can correct Willmore when she insists on refering to them as Eastern Canada:)

Does Glaswegian count any points in the skilled worker category on the CHC form ;)

I'll just wait for the abuse now :rolleyes:

Novocastrian Oct 11th 2006 2:47 pm

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by iaink
Oui, mais son non droit.


:confused: Burgerschaftsprufung? :confused:

Minus the odd umlaut = citizenship test

Novocastrian Oct 11th 2006 2:56 pm

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 
I might add (OK, I will add) that if it hadn't been for John Wayne, we'd all have German keyboards. Apparently.

Or was it Arabic? I forget.

Cowtown Oct 11th 2006 2:56 pm

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by iaink
Hell, I have a hard time understanding Glaswegian!

Bud ... that makes two of us ... one of the last times I was there, a taxi driver commented on my "highland accent".

I must be the first highlander that ever used "me duck" in a sentence ;)

Deadmeat Oct 11th 2006 3:12 pm

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian
I might add (OK, I will add) that if it hadn't been for John Wayne, we'd all have German keyboards. Apparently.

Or was it Arabic? I forget.

And Japanese cars ... ah ...

Atkule Oct 11th 2006 4:09 pm

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 
Back on subject. I live in one of the most beautiful areas in rural UK, it's a stunning place to live........until I walk out the door and have to mingle with the class & status ridden idiots that are moving out here from the cities. Huge flashy SUV's and "I'm the lord of the manor" atitudes. They all seem to be rushing somewhere? Like they are everso important :mad: Then there is the criminal fraternity, they haven't bothered with this area before but now they are following the crass wannabe lords in their SUV's and 1/2 million pound houses.There is a grim selfishness that is creeping into UK society, every man for himself. It wouldn't be so bad if there just weren't so damn many of them! 60,000,000 people crushed up against each other on an island the size of Southern BC(maybe less?) :eek: No wonder we're all getting tetchy and want to emmigrate :D
Of coarse I haven't had the Canadian experience yet so maybe I have a shock awaiting!? :beer:

Cowtown Oct 11th 2006 5:23 pm

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by lukate77
There is a grim selfishness that is creeping into UK society, every man for himself.

Sounds a lot like Calgary ...


Originally Posted by lukate77
It wouldn't be so bad if there just weren't so damn many of them! 60,000,000 people crushed up against each other on an island the size of Southern BC(maybe less?) :eek: No wonder we're all getting tetchy and want to emmigrate :D

Unfortunately urban planners in Canada design new housing based on pseudo-european space measurements ... they're cramming people into Canadian cities like they do in the UK.

Ignore the fact that Alberta has almost twice the area of the UK and a fraction of the population ... let's cram everyone into the minimum space available!


Originally Posted by lukate77
Of coarse I haven't had the Canadian experience yet so maybe I have a shock awaiting!? :beer:

For sure ... unless BC is way different from here.

Steve_P Oct 12th 2006 2:29 am

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Cowtown
Sounds a lot like Calgary ...


Unfortunately urban planners in Canada design new housing based on pseudo-european space measurements ... they're cramming people into Canadian cities like they do in the UK.

Ignore the fact that Alberta has almost twice the area of the UK and a fraction of the population ... let's cram everyone into the minimum space available!


...unless BC is way different from here.

Not sure about the Euro space thing, it's more about the developers getting more money for the land. This started around the time of the first bouts of major inflation in the seventies.

...and B.C. is no different.

Cowtown Oct 12th 2006 4:37 am

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Hangman
Not sure about the Euro space thing, it's more about the developers getting more money for the land. This started around the time of the first bouts of major inflation in the seventies.

...and B.C. is no different.

It is also down to the planning dept as they are setting maximum lot sizes in some areas. It is to do with the "footprint" in comparison with other cities and Calgary does not come out of the comparison favourably. The developers dont mind as they get more profit (as you said).

neill Oct 12th 2006 5:00 am

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by lukate77
They all seem to be rushing somewhere? Like they are everso important :mad:

That would be their 2-hour commute to "their" office in the centre of london. :D If it makes you feel any better, they are paying a LOT more tax in the UK for this miserable-existence-they-see-as-a-priviledge than they would in Canada.

We have the same problems although here it's not "Lord of the Manor" mentality, it's more like "I'm a big frickin' truck/utility vehicle driver and i'll squash you with my front right if you don't get out the way now...."

:D :beer:

Tangram Oct 12th 2006 5:22 am

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by neill
That would be their 2-hour commute to "their" office in the centre of london. :D If it makes you feel any better, they are paying a LOT more tax in the UK for this miserable-existence-they-see-as-a-priviledge than they would in Canada.

We have the same problems although here it's not "Lord of the Manor" mentality, it's more like "I'm a big frickin' truck/utility vehicle driver and i'll squash you with my front right if you don't get out the way now...."

:D :beer:

More tax .... ? Are you sure ?

Cowtown Oct 12th 2006 7:14 am

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Tangram
More tax .... ? Are you sure ?

I'm paying less tax/cpp/ei than I paid in tax/nic - just looking at percent of income. Others disagree which might mean they are not claiming all of their deductions and nrtcs.............

Garfielduk Oct 12th 2006 7:54 am

Re: Just how bad is the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Cowtown
I'm paying less tax/cpp/ei than I paid in tax/nic - just looking at percent of income. Others disagree which might mean they are not claiming all of their deductions and nrtcs.............

As I am an Accountant I was quite keen to see what the difference in income tax rates were like between the 2 countries and found that someone on £30k here pays an effective rate of around 27% and in Canada someone earning a similar amount would pay around 20%, that's fairly clear cut to me. If you go up a little to say £40k the UK rate is around 25% and the Canada one 22%. It means that the lower earners pay a lot less but as you earn more the gap becomes less because of how the two systems work until of course the 40% uk rate kicks in and then it can go back upto around 30% of gross income and the Canadian one is at 25% for a similar salary. You can see from this that the gap can vary quite a lot (between 3% and 7%) as it depends on exactly how much your salary is.
To do this comparison I assumed £30000 = $60000
Oh BTW this was purely for Ontario province and took account of federal and provincial taxes


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