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Old Nov 2nd 2012 | 6:55 am
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She works full time and earns good money.
More than me.
 
Old Nov 2nd 2012 | 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Or, to put that another way, she can reasonably ask that, since you created the child, you support it until the end of full time education.
Or to out it another way, he can reasonably ask that, as both parents created the child, they both support it until the end of full time education.
 
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Originally Posted by james.mc
...and give her the house, most of your salary and support the ex wife also until the child leaves full time eduction.. yeah sure... why not roll over take it from the rear as well!
It seems to me that supporting their children is what parents should do. If you'd like to take it from the rear that's your perogative but I don't see that having your fudge packed should exempt you from your responsibilities.
 
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Originally Posted by talltrucker2
She works full time and earns good money.
More than me.
There does seem to be a flip side to this. Looks like you are being taken to the cleaners and need to toughen up your game a bit.
 
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Originally Posted by james.mc
Or to out it another way, he can reasonably ask that, as both parents created the child, they both support it until the end of full time education.
After primary school age, sure, but the man will always be paying more because having and caring for the child handicaps the woman in the workplace.
 
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It seems to me that supporting their children is what parents should do. If you'd like to take it from the rear that's your perogative but I don't see that having your fudge packed should exempt you from your responsibilities.
I'm not sure anyone suggesting anyone should be exempt from their responsibilities and I'm sure the OP doesn't want to take it up the rear either because that is whom it appears might have to if they take your approach.
 
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After primary school age, sure, but the man will always be paying more because having and caring for the child handicaps the woman in the workplace.
I agree with that. But don't agree that he should support the child as previously suggested. It should be a team effort. Divide their assets equally by all means plus come to an arrangement with the child. Not simply give her everything which appears to be what some might be alluding to.

It seems that she earns more than him anyway so she's not that disadvantaged.
 
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She's had over a 100k out of me. I have no more to give.
I have the clothes on my back and no where to live.
In my head she's won. I had to sell the house for 40k under the market value. I got 100'000 for the house she got a 100k.
 
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Originally Posted by james.mc
...and give her the house, most of your salary and support the ex wife also until the child leaves full time eduction.. yeah sure... why not roll over take it from the rear as well!

It's not all about the wife and children's rights!

Of course she can reasonably ask but I have yet to see that happen. Most divorces I am aware of end up anything but reasonable.

I agree that child support is one path that can be taken. A clean break is anther path. In my case the judge saw the clean break as the way forward.
She got the house, the business and the two boys. I came away with the clothes I was wearing. Before the ink was dry on the court order she sold the house, sold the business and promptly re-married to an undeclared (in court) partner who was minted!
From my experience, this tells us quite a bit about you as, despite what barrack room lawyers think, Court do not routinely award women everything.
 
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
From my experience, this tells us quite a bit about you as, despite what barrack room lawyers think, Court do not routinely award women everything.
I'm not sure anyone has suggested that courts routinely award women everything.

In layman's terms.. in case I cock up over a point of law....
She got all the material possessions. I was awarded a clean break. I was also awarded around GBP 18,000. My solicitors fees were about that amount.
Ergo... I came away with the clothes I was wearing.

What does that tell you about me? Who's us? Or are we in court again?

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Old Nov 2nd 2012 | 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by james.mc
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Ergo... I came away with the clothes I was wearing.
A bit like talltrucker2 but the difference being he hasn't been to court yet.

On the matter of courts awarding women everything. I wonder where that idea came from?
 
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Originally Posted by talltrucker2
That sounds like the best thing to do.
Is it right that I can get a divorce after 5 years without her signing the divorce papers?? If so I only have to wait 3 more years.

The reason I want it is so I can propose next year to my Girlfriend.
But I guess I can still get engaged? Not sure ?
Triumph of hope over experience?? (Oscar Wilde quote I think)

You're wound up, let it go. You can get engaged but if word gets back to your wife then she won't be pleased. Your girlfriend will stay with you whether you can marry or not - if she loves you and all that.

Stop letting your wife pull your strings. All you have to do is do the decent thing by your child.

If you don't want to keep in touch with your wife now and she can support the child ok then put money in an education account for the child for later.
 
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Originally Posted by james.mc
I agree with that. But don't agree that he should support the child as previously suggested. It should be a team effort. Divide their assets equally by all means plus come to an arrangement with the child. Not simply give her everything which appears to be what some might be alluding to.

It seems that she earns more than him anyway so she's not that disadvantaged.
Originally Posted by james.mc
I'm not sure anyone has suggested that courts routinely award women everything.
Ahem, I appreciate that you did not refer to a Court In my experience, the received wisdom appears to be the the woman will get everything if it goes to Court which, frankly, isn't the case at all.

Originally Posted by james.mc
In layman's terms.. in case I cock up over a point of law....
She got all the material possessions. I was awarded a clean break. I was also awarded around GBP 18,000. My solicitors fees were about that amount.
Ergo... I came away with the clothes I was wearing.

I am happy to see that you agree that the Court did its best to settle matters reasonably. I suggest your posts upthread imply that she got everything and you got nothing. In my experience, Courts in divorce cases normally get things correct. Most Judges dislike being in family court and will go to great pains to ensure they only make considered decisions.

Originally Posted by james.mc
What does that tell you about me? Who's us? Or are we in court again?
I don't believe we have ever been in Court together.

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Old Nov 2nd 2012 | 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I don't believe we have ever been in Court together.
It felt like it when you first stepped in 'up thread'. Not a hint of I believe you may be incorrect... straight for the throat.. all lawyer like in court.
 
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I've been trying to help talltrucker2. Unlike you it seems.

Can I suggest you use some of your worldly legal wisdom to do the same in favour of the OP, instead of picking the bones out of my non legal personage.

If I'm incorrect in some instances fair enough I'll listen. All I was doing was offering the OP some support based on my personal, similar, experience. Why be so nit picky? Maybe you've been a lawyer/solicitor (whatever, it's not important) too long who knows?

One thing I do know is that if you ever were to work offshore on a job I am running I wouldn't jump all over you, telling people all around us how experienced or qualified I am and how I might know better than everyone else no matter what your experience or opinion might be about the job in hand. I'd try to help you. Especially if, in turn you were already trying to help someone else!

Now pick a small sentence out of that and rip it a part why don't you. I'm sure that'll help the OP as well.
Other words spring to mind but I'm sure they'd be banned.

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