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Old Nov 14th 2010 | 6:05 am
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At least you don't sound like you are running away from a certain life, as many seem to be, and just fancy giving somewhere a go that you rather like. As noted, give it a go, life is short. But keep a firm grip on rational choices and don't fall into ....England has gone to the dogs...I'm off to Canada where it's all lollipops and rainbows.[/QUOTE]

The one thing we try not to do is run the UK down. Sure, it has it's problems at the moment (what country doesn't?!) but in the main it has a whole lot going for it (mentioned above). I have a list (unknown to the boys) of reasons why we'd like to relocate to Canada and why we want to leave the UK. Ok, so the reasons I gave above seem anti-UK but really, they are problems faced by all small and highly populated countries. We have seen many people who have only done something new and adventurous once they have found out they have some sort of illness and re-evaluate their lives. We have experienced the death of quite a few young people in our immediate family (my brother, 26) and my other brother's children (one aged just 11 days and one aged 21), amongst others. This makes one think that life is short enough, even if you live to a ripe old age.

My hubby and I just want to see what life is like somewhere else and give our son the chance to experience another country (a great one, at that!). Like I said, we just hope that we can see it through as we'd be foolish to leave our currently okay jobs with good pay to end up unemployed and eating into our savings (which are not so great now given the exchange rate). So, getting that all important job would at least give us the chance to start somewhere!
 
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Originally Posted by Dotty P
Mind you, hubby did say that when people are happy and having a great time, they tend to just get on with their lives and don't tend to feel the need to post anything on this type of forum. It's only when things aren't working out that we feel the need to gain support from like minded souls. I guess he has a point there.
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
Hard as it may be to believe, sometimes husbands are right.
But a lot of people just don't post on forums like this, period. Whether happy or not.
 
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Originally Posted by Dotty P
My hubby and I just want to see what life is like somewhere else and give our son the chance to experience another country (a great one, at that!). Like I said, we just hope that we can see it through as we'd be foolish to leave our currently okay jobs with good pay to end up unemployed and eating into our savings (which are not so great now given the exchange rate). So, getting that all important job would at least give us the chance to start somewhere!
Point 1: unless your OH has some specialist or in demand skills it is highly unlikely he will get a job from overseas. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.

Point 2: and this is it in a nutshell. Go have an adventure. It might be a success or it might be a failure. You will never know unless you give it a try.

If it fails you might end up back in the UK considerably poorer. Can you, as a family, cope with that? Whether or not it is worth the risk is something that you have to decide for your yourselves. I don't think any of us can help.
 
Old Nov 14th 2010 | 8:39 am
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Hard as it may be to believe, sometimes husbands are right.
My husband would certainly agree with you there
 
Old Nov 14th 2010 | 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
Point 1: unless your OH has some specialist or in demand skills it is highly unlikely he will get a job from overseas. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.

Point 2: and this is it in a nutshell. Go have an adventure. It might be a success or it might be a failure. You will never know unless you give it a try.

If it fails you might end up back in the UK considerably poorer. Can you, as a family, cope with that? Whether or not it is worth the risk is something that you have to decide for your yourselves. I don't think any of us can help.
You talk a lot of sense....

Hubby's going out in early new year to have a face to face with recruiters...think it's really the only way.

Of course, to fail would be rotten....anyone would agree with that. We know that nobody can help us (unless someone's got a job for my husband, of course ) but it helps to have posters tell you that you really do need to be out there to apply for jobs.
 
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Me (Englishman) the Mrs (Canadian) and the 6 month-old baby were visiting family in Newfoundland when the Mrs found out her job in the UK had gone - plant closed down. Bit of a shock but I told her not to worry, we've got a lot of thinking to do. I suggested we move to Canada permanent 'cause I loved our 2 week holiday there and of course she jumped at it to be closer to her family. We began my visa application, a bit easier because as a Canadian she sponsored me. Meanwhile I gave my notice in at work, put the house on the market and realised that after moaning about the state of Britain for the last 20 years, this was my chance to change all around me that influenced my mood. You get wrapped up in it don't you - day to day moaning by you and everyone else.
I've had a long-standing motto: You'll never regret anything you tried and failed but will always regret not trying. I didn't want to miss the opportunity of raising my now 1 year old daughter in a better environment ( and emigrating might stop me moaning too!).
So we did it, moved all-in, took us around 4months to arrange and get here and now we both work, drive our own cars and are looking forward, making plans for holidays etc.
Give it a shot I say............................

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Me (Englishman) the Mrs (Canadian) and the 6 month-old baby were visiting family in Newfoundland when the Mrs found out her job in the UK had gone - plant closed down. Bit of a shock but I told her not to worry, we've got a lot of thinking to do. I suggested we move to Canada permanent 'cause I loved our 2 week holiday there and of course she jumped at it to be closer to her family. We began my visa application, a bit easier because as a Canadian she sponsored me. Meanwhile I gave my notice in at work, put the house on the market and realised that after moaning about the state of Britain for the last 20 years, this was my chance to change all around me that influenced my mood. You get wrapped up in it don't you - day to day moaning by you and everyone else.
I've had a long-standing motto: You'll never regret anything you tried and failed but will always regret not trying. I didn't want to miss the opportunity of raising my now 1 year old daughter in a better environment ( and emigrating might stop me moaning too!).
So we did it, moved all-in, took us around 4months to arrange and get here and now we both work, drive our own cars and are looking forward, making plans for holidays etc.
Give it a shot I say............................

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Old Nov 17th 2010 | 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Dotty P
Hello all!

Here's the thing. We've landed our visa's after a three and a half year wait. Thing is, when we applied my hubby's job was REALLY getting him down, we didn't really like where we lived and generally we were really keen to get to Canada. We are still very keen but I've noticed a difference in my hubby, in that he's now got a job which he quite likes (emphasis on 'quite'), we've sold pretty much everything (with a view to moving to Canada in June) and live in a village in a rented flat that's really quite nice. Okay, so rent is much more expensive than mortgage but generally we are okay with life. Hubby has applied for loads of jobs in Canada but as yet has not had a response from anyone. We had a little heart to heart a few weeks ago and it transpired that he had lost his enthusiasm for going over, mostly because of the job situation. After a good long talk (and a son who was horrified that hubs could feel that way - 'we have to go!') he seems to have got back into the swing of applying for more jobs, with a view to going out on his own in early(ish) 2011 to have a good look face to face.

Can I just ask, has this happened to many people, where it has taken quite a long time to get the visa and by the time you do your circumstances have changed, making the move a bit more daunting to do? He says he still wants to go but how can we without a secure job? Understandable that he should feel this way but I'm fretting that the dream could be shattered. We were hoping to go in June after our son has completed his GCSE's so our UK rental ends then and everything (in my mind anyway) was rounding off for that time....

It's difficult....I've read many success stories and equal amounts of failures but most share a common theme....if you've got a job (and you like it, of course) you generally have a good time of it out there (stands to reason really).

Thanks for listening...
I think the unreasonable waiting list for a visa makes this quite common.
 
Old Nov 19th 2010 | 6:07 am
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Originally Posted by Steve.gibbs007
Me (Englishman) the Mrs (Canadian) and the 6 month-old baby were visiting family in Newfoundland when the Mrs found out her job in the UK had gone - plant closed down. Bit of a shock but I told her not to worry, we've got a lot of thinking to do. I suggested we move to Canada permanent 'cause I loved our 2 week holiday there and of course she jumped at it to be closer to her family. We began my visa application, a bit easier because as a Canadian she sponsored me. Meanwhile I gave my notice in at work, put the house on the market and realised that after moaning about the state of Britain for the last 20 years, this was my chance to change all around me that influenced my mood. You get wrapped up in it don't you - day to day moaning by you and everyone else.
I've had a long-standing motto: You'll never regret anything you tried and failed but will always regret not trying. I didn't want to miss the opportunity of raising my now 1 year old daughter in a better environment ( and emigrating might stop me moaning too!).
So we did it, moved all-in, took us around 4months to arrange and get here and now we both work, drive our own cars and are looking forward, making plans for holidays etc.
Give it a shot I say............................

Good luck.
What a great (and positive) post! Thanks! I agree, other half was so down about it all....the constant applying for jobs and hearing nothing....but I said to him that we cannot possibly just give these visas up after all the waiting, money spent and plans! Plus, our son said if we don't go he go on his own (he's SO determined!). It WILL be hard (at times), we WILL struggle (at times) but I am sure that the only way forward is to suck it and see....I don't want to end up in my nursing home regretting that I didn't at least give it a go.
 
Old Nov 19th 2010 | 6:09 am
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Originally Posted by Seneca21
I think the unreasonable waiting list for a visa makes this quite common.
agreed.....so much can happen in 3.5 years....we are very much more contented and although only renting a small apartment we're alright really. Still want to give it our best shot though....nothing's set in stone and if it fails.....well, we'll work out what to do then (Cayman Islands is only 5 hours away from Canada I'm told ).

Looking on the positive side though, we hope it'll be just what the doctor ordered.....
 
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Originally Posted by Dotty P
Hello all!

Here's the thing. We've landed our visa's after a three and a half year wait. Thing is, when we applied my hubby's job was REALLY getting him down, we didn't really like where we lived and generally we were really keen to get to Canada. We are still very keen but I've noticed a difference in my hubby, in that he's now got a job which he quite likes (emphasis on 'quite'), we've sold pretty much everything (with a view to moving to Canada in June) and live in a village in a rented flat that's really quite nice. Okay, so rent is much more expensive than mortgage but generally we are okay with life. Hubby has applied for loads of jobs in Canada but as yet has not had a response from anyone. We had a little heart to heart a few weeks ago and it transpired that he had lost his enthusiasm for going over, mostly because of the job situation. After a good long talk (and a son who was horrified that hubs could feel that way - 'we have to go!') he seems to have got back into the swing of applying for more jobs, with a view to going out on his own in early(ish) 2011 to have a good look face to face.

Can I just ask, has this happened to many people, where it has taken quite a long time to get the visa and by the time you do your circumstances have changed, making the move a bit more daunting to do? He says he still wants to go but how can we without a secure job? Understandable that he should feel this way but I'm fretting that the dream could be shattered. We were hoping to go in June after our son has completed his GCSE's so our UK rental ends then and everything (in my mind anyway) was rounding off for that time....

It's difficult....I've read many success stories and equal amounts of failures but most share a common theme....if you've got a job (and you like it, of course) you generally have a good time of it out there (stands to reason really).

Thanks for listening...
Wow, I thought I had written that post!

It's so reassuring to note that other people have these doubts too

I couldn't agree more with everthing everyone has said. It's has cost so much financially and emotionally to get to this stage, how could we not go?

Beaing prepared for the worst is the best option, then anything better will be a bonus!

I don't know anything about Vancouver, or what line of work your husband is in, but get him on to LinkedIn.com! We are landing in 3 weeks (short visit) and I have lined up six coffee/lunch meetings with people in my field. NOT interviews, but a chance to meet others, network, and learn the ways of job hunting and my profession in Toronto.

Try that?
 
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Originally Posted by Flyingscottie
Wow, I thought I had written that post!

It's so reassuring to note that other people have these doubts too

I couldn't agree more with everthing everyone has said. It's has cost so much financially and emotionally to get to this stage, how could we not go?

Beaing prepared for the worst is the best option, then anything better will be a bonus!

I don't know anything about Vancouver, or what line of work your husband is in, but get him on to LinkedIn.com! We are landing in 3 weeks (short visit) and I have lined up six coffee/lunch meetings with people in my field. NOT interviews, but a chance to meet others, network, and learn the ways of job hunting and my profession in Toronto.

Try that?
Hi there, and thanks for your reply....he's already on LinkedIn but I have to say we didn't utilise it enough when we recently went over to have a look. I think he'd already started feeling a bit low about it before the visit so didn't really use the time as wisely as he/we could have. We both think that he should go out in early 2011 to do a face to face with recruiters/companies. He's a chemist, currently working in essential oils but previously in medical devices/silicones. Seems that most of the chemical companies are based on the east side but we had set our hearts on the west. That's where the difficulty lies, especially with our son. He LOVES (I can't emphasise enough how much!) Vancouver and that side of the country.....I'm easier and would go wherever the jobs are for my husband but not so keen on the harsh winters/very warm summers of the east. It's so difficult....
 
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Originally Posted by Steve.gibbs007
I've had a long-standing motto: You'll never regret anything you tried and failed but will always regret not trying.
If one loses a huge amount of money going over and back across the Atlantic, living on savings while searching for a job one is unable to find and then being unable to obtain a job back in the UK I would imagine that one would have quite a few regrets.

Don`t always assume it will work out. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst.
 
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If one loses a huge amount of money going over and back across the Atlantic, living on savings while searching for a job one is unable to find and then being unable to obtain a job back in the UK I would imagine that one would have quite a few regrets.

Don`t always assume it will work out. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst.
We have always said that nothing we are doing is written in stone and if it doesn't work out then we'll have to look at the situation we're in then. We hope with all our might that it WILL work out because this has been our long-term dream but we're quite well aware (you only have to look on this and other forums) that things most definitely don't always go the right way.....
 


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