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Bucks_Family Jan 30th 2013 1:01 am

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Originally Posted by wolstie (Post 10514665)
We moved from Manchester to Ottawa nearly 3 years ago.

I have to agree with the OP, at least where we live, there is lots more for the kids to do than back home.

Municipal recreational activities in Ottawa (ballet, gymnastics, skating lessons) are second to none, and dirt cheap. In Manchester, there's no such thing.

In the summer, we take the kids to the beaches, splash pools and parks. In the winter we skate on the canal, the rink in the park or go tobogganing. In Manchester, in summer, it rained, so more often than not we took the kids to a jungle gym (at a cost). In winter, it rained, so more often than not we took the kids to a jungle gym (at a cost).

We've just bought an acre of land in the countryside and we are building a house. We'll have a pool, which will keep the kids entertained for 4 - 5 months of the year. We'd never have been able to do that in Manchester.

I know if we move back to the UK (and tbh, we've considered it a lot) the kids would be bored rotten.

I guess it depends where you are moving from.

Just for the sake of balance, and because we're in Manchester too - our daughter will be going to ballet class after school today, she has ice skating lessons at Altrincham every Saturday morning, and has her name down for gymnastics, but it's currently oversubscribed. That's nearly as bad as there not being any gymnastics at all, but I just wanted to correct your statement, those things are definitely available in Manchester, you just have to travel further to access them than you might in Canada.

It's not stopping us from moving to Calgary though ;-) Hence the ice skating and skiiing lessons our daughter is having now (as Manchester has skiing too, of a sort).
I agree there are many things you are experiencing in Canada that would not be available to you in Manchester, but don't over poo-poo the place.

cheeky_monkey Jan 30th 2013 1:06 am

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Originally Posted by wolstie (Post 10514665)
We moved from Manchester to Ottawa nearly 3 years ago.

I have to agree with the OP, at least where we live, there is lots more for the kids to do than back home.

Municipal recreational activities in Ottawa (ballet, gymnastics, skating lessons) are second to none, and dirt cheap. In Manchester, there's no such thing.

In the summer, we take the kids to the beaches, splash pools and parks. In the winter we skate on the canal, the rink in the park or go tobogganing. In Manchester, in summer, it rained, so more often than not we took the kids to a jungle gym (at a cost). In winter, it rained, so more often than not we took the kids to a jungle gym (at a cost).

We've just bought an acre of land in the countryside and we are building a house. We'll have a pool, which will keep the kids entertained for 4 - 5 months of the year. We'd never have been able to do that in Manchester.

I know if we move back to the UK (and tbh, we've considered it a lot) the kids would be bored rotten.

I guess it depends where you are moving from.

You cant tell me there were no activities for kids in Manchester?? there is nothing in Calgary apart from winter sports that my kids couldn't do back in the UK..in fact in winter unless you are into winter sports there isn't much to do. If your kids play outdoor sports like football, rugby etc then this is reserved for late spring and summer..of course you can get into baseball in the summer to in lieu of cricket..or take a pop at ice hockey in the winter..but this is expensive with all the kit etc..if you are into skiing skating and snow boarding then Calgary is great.

If you have older kids say 11 and over then things get a bit more difficult as Canadians parents tend to wrap up their children in cotton wool and will chaperone them where ever they go until they are about 13 or 14..in the UK i think we give our kids a bit more freedom between the ages of 11-14 than here and i know my older children found this part quite difficult.

mcrphil Jan 30th 2013 1:08 am

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Ha no way am from moston me! So least you can see what I'm saying when you include the toybox on the avenue as an attraction!
Did it cost a lot setting up over there?

Phil

wolstie Jan 30th 2013 1:09 am

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Originally Posted by Bucks_Family (Post 10514698)
Just for the sake of balance, and because we're in Manchester too - our daughter will be going to ballet class after school today, she has ice skating lessons at Altrincham every Saturday morning, and has her name down for gymnastics, but it's currently oversubscribed. That's nearly as bad as there not being any gymnastics at all, but I just wanted to correct your statement, those things are definitely available in Manchester, you just have to travel further to access them than you might in Canada.

It's not stopping us from moving to Calgary though ;-) Hence the ice skating and skiiing lessons our daughter is having now (as Manchester has skiing too, of a sort).
I agree there are many things you are experiencing in Canada that would not be available to you in Manchester, but don't over poo-poo the place.

I don't think I am over 'poo-pooing' the place. Perhaps it further depends on where in Manchester you are though.

The activities you mention are not municipally run, and subsidised, though are they? (at least not in the Manchester City Council area. Perhaps Trafford, Stockport etc do?)

Altrincham ice rink, 20 miles away from where we lived in Manchester. From what I've just seen on the net, the cost of lessons is over double to what we're paying in Canada. Travel time, travel cost, and cost of the lessons would most likely prohibit those in the more deprived areas of the city from taking advantage of them.

christmasoompa Jan 30th 2013 1:10 am

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Originally Posted by mcrphil (Post 10514715)
Did it cost a lot setting up over there?

Loads of threads on the forum about the cost of moving etc, here's one for you to look at - http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=735341

A quick search will no doubt reveal lots of others.

HTH.

wolstie Jan 30th 2013 1:12 am

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Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 10514710)
You cant tell me there were no activities for kids in Manchester?? there is nothing in Calgary apart from winter sports that my kids couldn't do back in the UK..in fact in winter unless you are into winter sports there isn't much to do. If your kids play outdoor sports like football, rugby etc then this is reserved for late spring and summer..of course you can get into baseball in the summer to in lieu of cricket..or take a pop at ice hockey in the winter..but this is expensive with all the kit etc..if you are into skiing skating and snow boarding then Calgary is great.

If you have older kids say 11 and over then things get a bit more difficult as Canadians parents tend to wrap up their children in cotton wool and will chaperone them where ever they go until they are about 13 or 14..in the UK i think we give our kids a bit more freedom between the ages of 11-14 than here and i know my older children found this part quite difficult.

They are not widely available and they are not municipally run - so they aren't cheap.

Don't get me wrong, if you have the money, great. You'll likely find something for your kids in Manchester.

wolstie Jan 30th 2013 1:13 am

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Originally Posted by mcrphil (Post 10514715)
Ha no way am from moston me! So least you can see what I'm saying when you include the toybox on the avenue as an attraction!
Did it cost a lot setting up over there?

Phil

Ha ha, we went there for an hour over Christmas.

Which school did you go to? I went to St. Matthews.

christmasoompa Jan 30th 2013 1:15 am

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Originally Posted by wolstie (Post 10514727)
They are not widely available and they are not municipally run - so they aren't cheap.

Is there really nothing available run by schools or councils in Manchester? If so, that's astonishing.

Most of my kids activities are after school stuff arranged by the school and/or the council, and cost very little (example, my son's football club is £19 for 12 1 hour sessions, taught by a Reading FC coach <insert Reading footie joke here>).

And that's in rural Berkshire! I'd have thought there would be more stuff like that in Manchester, not less.

mcrphil Jan 30th 2013 1:17 am

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Went all over wolstie! Me mate am working with at the min went st matthews jade johnson?! And not much to do round these parts its a pretty deprived area hence why I want far away as possible
Thanks
Phil

wolstie Jan 30th 2013 1:24 am

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Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 10514733)
Is there really nothing available run by schools or councils in Manchester? If so, that's astonishing.

Most of my kids activities are after school stuff arranged by the school and/or the council, and cost very little (example, my son's football club is £19 for 12 1 hour sessions, taught by a Reading FC coach <insert Reading footie joke here>).

And that's in rural Berkshire! I'd have thought there would be more stuff like that in Manchester, not less.

Schools - perhaps. My kids weren't at school age when we lived there so I can't comment. I do know though that 15 years ago when I left school, there were no after school activities. I hope that's changed.

The council don't run anything, but I think Sport England may be investing in sports activities on the back of the Olympics.

One of the previous posters stated they were on a waiting list for gymnastics - I presume a private group (South Manchester Gymnastics maybe?). Which just goes to show how 'widely available' these sort of things aren't.

wolstie Jan 30th 2013 1:25 am

Re: hi all
 

Originally Posted by mcrphil (Post 10514743)
Went all over wolstie! Me mate am working with at the min went st matthews jade johnson?! And not much to do round these parts its a pretty deprived area hence why I want far away as possible
Thanks
Phil

Look at other places in the UK. Don't discount all of the UK as being the same as Manchester.

We looked elsewhere, but unfortunately there was no demand for what I do in the places we fancied.

All the best.

christmasoompa Jan 30th 2013 1:31 am

Re: hi all
 

Originally Posted by wolstie (Post 10514756)
Schools - perhaps. My kids weren't at school age when we lived there so I can't comment. I do know though that 15 years ago when I left school, there were no after school activities. I hope that's changed.

Certainly has here at least, whether it's cross country, zumbatronics (no idea), dance, football, gymnastics, rugby or bloody gardening club, there's numerous things for them to choose from!

mcrphil Jan 30th 2013 1:32 am

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I'm fed up with england all together to be honest! The works drying up in my line of work in construction where they are screaming out for them in canada!
Its a tough 1 but I don't want to live a life of regret!

wolstie Jan 30th 2013 1:36 am

Re: hi all
 

Originally Posted by mcrphil (Post 10514787)
I'm fed up with england all together to be honest! The works drying up in my line of work in construction where they are screaming out for them in canada!
Its a tough 1 but I don't want to live a life of regret!

You can regret it the other way too though, especially if your missus is already thinking twice about it.

mcrphil Jan 30th 2013 1:41 am

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Yeah that's true although I'm on to her sisters husband about going so hopefully they will be up for it and then that would be over half the battle resolved! I just want to make sure its the right idea as I don't want to do all this research and more and nothing come off it?
So I was wondering would you do it again knowing what you know now?

Phil


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