halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
#91
Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
So let's see. We have:
a) coming from overseas
b) think they know better than the locals
c) don't like the way things are being done
d) seek to impose change but
e) don't make the effort to understand what made things work as well as they did in the first place.
Result?
f) failure.
I'm sure that in there is a lesson in there somewhere trying to burst out.
a) coming from overseas
b) think they know better than the locals
c) don't like the way things are being done
d) seek to impose change but
e) don't make the effort to understand what made things work as well as they did in the first place.
Result?
f) failure.
I'm sure that in there is a lesson in there somewhere trying to burst out.
Look for the common denominator, if it is you, then as a key factor you then you have to change yourself.
However I suspect the Original Poster is long gone, we are all spouting off and no one is listening.
#92
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Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
In a city like Vancouver there are lots of immigrants from all over the world. We have an advantage over many of these immigrants in that English is our first language (though it's an advantage soon negated if we keep reminding Canadians that we speak "proper" English, unlike them).
Unfortunately this is the only advantage we have. We are competing against other immigrants who are determined to make their new lives a success come what may. They will do what they are told with a smile and work their b*ll*cks off to earn a wage.
You may think you are above this but unless you really ARE special then this is the reality of life. Enthusiasm, willingness (and a bit of humility) go a long way.
#94
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Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
More in the colloquial sense of a quantum leap but, fair enough, it was a bad choice of a word.
#95
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Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
I've never had any probs find work here. And it's a bit arrogant to spoout off that Brits are better and that Canadian employers are 'theatened' etc...
here is the other side of a coin, a Canadian in London:
Your extraordinary abilities as a Canadian professional worker will not be recognized. Sadly, but truly enough, Brits are ethnocentric and only recognize their own internal qualifications. I know you may think you can impress them, but the reality is different: Brits know they have all the answers and they are stubborn as mules.
http://www.canuckabroad.com/forums/y...-vt1338-8.html
here is the other side of a coin, a Canadian in London:
Your extraordinary abilities as a Canadian professional worker will not be recognized. Sadly, but truly enough, Brits are ethnocentric and only recognize their own internal qualifications. I know you may think you can impress them, but the reality is different: Brits know they have all the answers and they are stubborn as mules.
http://www.canuckabroad.com/forums/y...-vt1338-8.html
Last edited by dboy; Aug 22nd 2010 at 5:57 pm.
#96
Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
I've never had any probs find work here. And it's a bit arrogant to spoout off that Brits are better and that Canadian employers are 'theatened' etc...
here is the other side of a coin, a Canadian in London:
Your extraordinary abilities as a Canadian professional worker will not be recognized. Sadly, but truly enough, Brits are ethnocentric and only recognize their own internal qualifications. I know you may think you can impress them, but the reality is different: Brits know they have all the answers and they are stubborn as mules.
http://www.canuckabroad.com/forums/y...-vt1338-8.html
here is the other side of a coin, a Canadian in London:
Your extraordinary abilities as a Canadian professional worker will not be recognized. Sadly, but truly enough, Brits are ethnocentric and only recognize their own internal qualifications. I know you may think you can impress them, but the reality is different: Brits know they have all the answers and they are stubborn as mules.
http://www.canuckabroad.com/forums/y...-vt1338-8.html
#97
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Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 54
Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
So let's see. We have:
a) coming from overseas
b) think they know better than the locals
c) don't like the way things are being done
d) seek to impose change but
e) don't make the effort to understand what made things work as well as they did in the first place.
Result?
f) failure.
I'm sure that in there is a lesson in there somewhere trying to burst out.
a) coming from overseas
b) think they know better than the locals
c) don't like the way things are being done
d) seek to impose change but
e) don't make the effort to understand what made things work as well as they did in the first place.
Result?
f) failure.
I'm sure that in there is a lesson in there somewhere trying to burst out.
"After all,why do the canadians need so many immigrants if their all so brilliant themselves?"
If you arrive here with that attitude then life is going to be a struggle.
Really?I never would have guessed that.
The one thing you shouldn't do is assume that all Canadians are idiots or that they should be thankful for your expertise. Your own experience is a good example of how people react to "outsiders" thinking that they are better than you.
Like they did to us,ok.
Right,still can't really see what's being got at here but like I said,it would be helpful if the op could actually put up what their occupations are and how they got out there in the first place.
Why can't I say about my own experiences on here without being shot down by the Canadian posse,for gods sake as originally posted these are MY experiences.there were at least 50 canadians working there and everyone of them had exactly the same attitude,was that pure chance?maybe.
As I said they were really nice people who were 100% committed to makng the place work which was great to see but sadly a large part of their methods was to continually tell us how crap we were/good they were,how their methods
worked/ours didn't,how amazing their engineers were/ours weren't,how we needed more managers,yet telling us we needed a mass cull on the shop floor and although we welcomed these changes initially,it was clear that their company method of working would not work in the uk,which was sad.a bit of compromise would have been nice.
There are lots of reasons why I want to emigrate and if anyone on here thinks I'd be anything but 100% polite,willing to learn and ready for an employer then they don't know me very well at all.
#98
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Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 6,695
Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
So let's see. We have:
a) coming from overseas
b) think they know better than the locals
c) don't like the way things are being done
d) seek to impose change but
e) don't make the effort to understand what made things work as well as they did in the first place.
Result?
f) failure.
I'm sure that in there is a lesson in there somewhere trying to burst out.
a) coming from overseas
b) think they know better than the locals
c) don't like the way things are being done
d) seek to impose change but
e) don't make the effort to understand what made things work as well as they did in the first place.
Result?
f) failure.
I'm sure that in there is a lesson in there somewhere trying to burst out.
#99
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Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 6,695
Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
As I said they were really nice people who were 100% committed to makng the place work which was great to see but sadly a large part of their methods was to continually tell us how crap we were/good they were,how their methods
worked/ours didn't,how amazing their engineers were/ours weren't,how we needed more managers,yet telling us we needed a mass cull on the shop floor and although we welcomed these changes initially,it was clear that their company method of working would not work in the uk,which was sad.a bit of compromise would have been nice.
There are lots of reasons why I want to emigrate and if anyone on here thinks I'd be anything but 100% polite,willing to learn and ready for an employer then they don't know me very well at all.
I just think it's funny you want to emigrate to Canada after that
#100
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Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 6,695
Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
I've never had any probs find work here. And it's a bit arrogant to spoout off that Brits are better and that Canadian employers are 'theatened' etc...
here is the other side of a coin, a Canadian in London:
Your extraordinary abilities as a Canadian professional worker will not be recognized. Sadly, but truly enough, Brits are ethnocentric and only recognize their own internal qualifications. I know you may think you can impress them, but the reality is different: Brits know they have all the answers and they are stubborn as mules.
http://www.canuckabroad.com/forums/y...-vt1338-8.html
here is the other side of a coin, a Canadian in London:
Your extraordinary abilities as a Canadian professional worker will not be recognized. Sadly, but truly enough, Brits are ethnocentric and only recognize their own internal qualifications. I know you may think you can impress them, but the reality is different: Brits know they have all the answers and they are stubborn as mules.
http://www.canuckabroad.com/forums/y...-vt1338-8.html
#101
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Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 54
Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
Why not?I'm sure not all canadian employers are like Linamar!!as I said,their personalities were fine but just their ideas a bit off!I'm sure plenty of people think all welsh people sing in choirs,eat leeks and shag sheep for a living!!
I want a better standard of living for myself,but more importantly my child.sadly,unless he can earn about £80k per year in the uk he will never have the standards of living we do,all of which has always been done from my earning potential,which sadly is diminishing here in the uk ATM.
Sure,we will 100% help him get a foot on the property ladder like my mum did,but with the cheapest house in my area starting at about £180-200k we'd need to be giving him at least 30-40 k and then hoping he can get a £150k mortgage,I doubt I could afford that now with bills etc.
I'd just like to try something new,meet some nice people and hopefully make some $$ while I'm there.
Don't want much do I???
I want a better standard of living for myself,but more importantly my child.sadly,unless he can earn about £80k per year in the uk he will never have the standards of living we do,all of which has always been done from my earning potential,which sadly is diminishing here in the uk ATM.
Sure,we will 100% help him get a foot on the property ladder like my mum did,but with the cheapest house in my area starting at about £180-200k we'd need to be giving him at least 30-40 k and then hoping he can get a £150k mortgage,I doubt I could afford that now with bills etc.
I'd just like to try something new,meet some nice people and hopefully make some $$ while I'm there.
Don't want much do I???
#102
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Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 35
Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
Thankfully there are more people on this site that are genuinely here to help! However public postings on here just get you shot down thats why newbies give up and just use this site for the valuable info it can give.
#103
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Joined: Aug 2010
Location: London (Zone 6) UK
Posts: 40
Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
Why not?I'm sure not all canadian employers are like Linamar!!as I said,their personalities were fine but just their ideas a bit off!I'm sure plenty of people think all welsh people sing in choirs,eat leeks and shag sheep for a living!!
I want a better standard of living for myself,but more importantly my child.sadly,unless he can earn about £80k per year in the uk he will never have the standards of living we do,all of which has always been done from my earning potential,which sadly is diminishing here in the uk ATM.
Sure,we will 100% help him get a foot on the property ladder like my mum did,but with the cheapest house in my area starting at about £180-200k we'd need to be giving him at least 30-40 k and then hoping he can get a £150k mortgage,I doubt I could afford that now with bills etc.
I'd just like to try something new,meet some nice people and hopefully make some $$ while I'm there.
Don't want much do I???
I want a better standard of living for myself,but more importantly my child.sadly,unless he can earn about £80k per year in the uk he will never have the standards of living we do,all of which has always been done from my earning potential,which sadly is diminishing here in the uk ATM.
Sure,we will 100% help him get a foot on the property ladder like my mum did,but with the cheapest house in my area starting at about £180-200k we'd need to be giving him at least 30-40 k and then hoping he can get a £150k mortgage,I doubt I could afford that now with bills etc.
I'd just like to try something new,meet some nice people and hopefully make some $$ while I'm there.
Don't want much do I???
I have four options at the moment:
1) Retrain and throw 9 years of job experience away
2) Move within the UK and potentially make the situation worse as it's unlikely to make it better
3) Stay where I am and wait for it to happen (it will it's just a question of when I will be unemployed)
4) Take my chance in another country
I already know I'm likely to get employment in the country doing what I do either with the State Government or a Consultancy, I just need to do some more research and a recce and make the move and be committed to making it work - as my other 3 options aren't options (and that's why I'm already considering ruling out Nova Scotia and Newfoundland as I just don't think I could hack the area). I know I may have to start back from the bottom learning Canadian codes and regulations but if that's what it takes - that's what it takes.
#105
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Re: halifax unsure wether to stay or go back to uk
Why not?I'm sure not all canadian employers are like Linamar!!as I said,their personalities were fine but just their ideas a bit off!I'm sure plenty of people think all welsh people sing in choirs,eat leeks and shag sheep for a living!!
I want a better standard of living for myself,but more importantly my child.sadly,unless he can earn about £80k per year in the uk he will never have the standards of living we do,all of which has always been done from my earning potential,which sadly is diminishing here in the uk ATM.
Sure,we will 100% help him get a foot on the property ladder like my mum did,but with the cheapest house in my area starting at about £180-200k we'd need to be giving him at least 30-40 k and then hoping he can get a £150k mortgage,I doubt I could afford that now with bills etc.
I'd just like to try something new,meet some nice people and hopefully make some $$ while I'm there.
Don't want much do I???
I want a better standard of living for myself,but more importantly my child.sadly,unless he can earn about £80k per year in the uk he will never have the standards of living we do,all of which has always been done from my earning potential,which sadly is diminishing here in the uk ATM.
Sure,we will 100% help him get a foot on the property ladder like my mum did,but with the cheapest house in my area starting at about £180-200k we'd need to be giving him at least 30-40 k and then hoping he can get a £150k mortgage,I doubt I could afford that now with bills etc.
I'd just like to try something new,meet some nice people and hopefully make some $$ while I'm there.
Don't want much do I???