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T-Pot Jun 1st 2012 4:49 am

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Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 10094603)
Good news. Sounds like it wasn't Canada in particular you were aiming for, just 'somewhere else'.... maybe it's working out for the best.

Canada was my choice, OH wanted NZ. When we first started looking at emigrating for our next big adventure we met the criteria for Canada but not NZ. How things change

Oink Jun 1st 2012 5:26 am

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I'm sorry it didn't work out the way you wanted. Being shafted by a bureaucratic bollox-up is frustrating at best although more probably soul destroying. Although I tend to agree with el radicchio, not much point moving somewhere like Canada unless you've made a packet beforehand and are retiring or you've got a brilliantly paying excellent job that makes having to be here bearable, I think the UK has more to offer you.

el_richo Jun 1st 2012 5:41 am

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I have a few friends move to NZ. One couple came home after a year because the pay was shit and they hated it.

The other couple still live there and constantly complain about the way of live, chav mentality of locals, the weather, work, and the distance and cost to actually get anywhere else.

Still, may your dreams come true and your life be full of awesomeness. I hope your next 5 years are as fruitful as the last :thumbup:

Tangram Jun 1st 2012 5:45 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10095167)
I have a few friends move to NZ. One couple came home after a year because the pay was shit and they hated it.

The other couple still live there and constantly complain about the way of live, chav mentality of locals, the weather, work, and the distance and cost to actually get anywhere else.

Still, may your dreams come true and your life be full of awesomeness. I hope your next 5 years are as fruitful as the last :thumbup:

Don't you mean more fruitful surely ?

el_richo Jun 1st 2012 5:55 am

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Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 10095172)
Don't you mean more fruitful surely ?

I know what i wrote ;)

It's in T-Bags best interest.

calliope Jun 1st 2012 11:14 am

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Originally Posted by T-Pot (Post 10095094)
Canada was my choice, OH wanted NZ. When we first started looking at emigrating for our next big adventure we met the criteria for Canada but not NZ. How things change

Are you eligible for NZ now though? NZ seems to go down well with older immigrants, but not so much with younger ones. But the thing is as a NZ citizen you have certain rights in Australia as well.

rivingtonpike Jun 1st 2012 1:20 pm

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Originally Posted by calliope (Post 10095677)
Are you eligible for NZ now though? NZ seems to go down well with older immigrants, but not so much with younger ones. But the thing is as a NZ citizen you have certain rights in Australia as well.

My brother has lived in NZ for a number of years with his family and while it's not perfect, they seem very happy. I on the other hand, live in Canada with my family and we are also very happy. I think because he's on North Island and I'm on Vancouver Island, our circumstances and life styles are pretty similar.

Good luck - wherever you end up!

T-Pot Jun 1st 2012 7:46 pm

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Originally Posted by calliope (Post 10095677)
Are you eligible for NZ now though? NZ seems to go down well with older immigrants, but not so much with younger ones. But the thing is as a NZ citizen you have certain rights in Australia as well.

The job I do now has an identical job description to the equivalent in NZ, if I apply and am successful they may be prepared to offer me a job to give me the required points while I apply for residence/work permit. With a job offer I appear to have 185 points.

It's worth a shot, if it doesn't work we'll try something else - or just get bored with the while idea and move to Cornwall...

calliope Jun 1st 2012 7:50 pm

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Originally Posted by T-Pot (Post 10096071)
The job I do now has an identical job description to the equivalent in NZ, if I apply and am successful they may be prepared to offer me a job to give me the required points while I apply for residence/work permit. With a job offer I appear to have 185 points.

It's worth a shot, if it doesn't work we'll try something else - or just get bored with the while idea and move to Cornwall...

Sounds like a plan:)

soconnell74 Jun 2nd 2012 12:28 am

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Originally Posted by T-Pot (Post 10096071)
The job I do now has an identical job description to the equivalent in NZ, if I apply and am successful they may be prepared to offer me a job to give me the required points while I apply for residence/work permit. With a job offer I appear to have 185 points.

It's worth a shot, if it doesn't work we'll try something else - or just get bored with the while idea and move to Cornwall...

I moved over to Canada in 2000 and its great here, but we took a family trip to NZ and Aus last year and loved it over there (so much I'd love to make another move). NZ is such a beautiful country! glad you have a plan forming, some things happen for a reason I guess ;-)

Hawk13 Jun 2nd 2012 8:27 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10095167)
I have a few friends move to NZ. One couple came home after a year because the pay was shit and they hated it.

I guess it depends on what you do for a living. For me, I'd make more in NZ than in Canada and would make significantly less if I moved back to the UK.


Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10095167)
The other couple still live there and constantly complain about the way of live, chav mentality of locals, the weather, work, and the distance and cost to actually get anywhere else.

I'm a firm believer that you'll get people complaining anywhere they go - it depends on what their expectations where. If you want the city life of London, LA or even Toronto, you'll be disappointed. But if you want a less hectic, laid back life, NZ may be just up your alley. The weather - don't get that one as the weather in NZ is pretty good and compared to what? Lots to see and do in NZ and Aussie is a hop, skip and a jump away. It's obviously a little isolated but everyone knows that before they go, so don't complain about it when you get there.

el_richo Jun 2nd 2012 9:19 am

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Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10096841)
I guess it depends on what you do for a living. For me, I'd make more in NZ than in Canada and would make significantly less if I moved back to the UK.



I'm a firm believer that you'll get people complaining anywhere they go - it depends on what their expectations where. If you want the city life of London, LA or even Toronto, you'll be disappointed. But if you want a less hectic, laid back life, NZ may be just up your alley. The weather - don't get that one as the weather in NZ is pretty good and compared to what? Lots to see and do in NZ and Aussie is a hop, skip and a jump away. It's obviously a little isolated but everyone knows that before they go, so don't complain about it when you get there.

People will always find something to complain about.

As for depending on the job and income. They were very financially stable but just didn't like the mentality, limited travel, isolation, and general shitness. They wanted to move forward, not back into the 1980's. Granted they'd never set foot there until they moved. It gave them a new love for the UK and they're now thriving back there loving it.

To each his own

Hawk13 Jun 2nd 2012 9:43 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10096879)
As for depending on the job and income. They were very financially stable but just didn't like the mentality, limited travel, isolation, and general shitness. They wanted to move forward, not back into the 1980's.

Not sure why they'd move there then - just curious.

For me, I'm a little tired of the rat race here, everyone trying to keep up with the Jones's as they say, buying stuff they don't need, get further into debt - the American way. NZ is a simpler lifestyle - but then the Scottish Highlands would suite just as well (too bad the job opportunities aren't there)

Like you said - to each their own.

el_richo Jun 2nd 2012 10:52 am

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Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 10096906)
Not sure why they'd move there then - just curious.

For me, I'm a little tired of the rat race here, everyone trying to keep up with the Jones's as they say, buying stuff they don't need, get further into debt - the American way. NZ is a simpler lifestyle - but then the Scottish Highlands would suite just as well (too bad the job opportunities aren't there)

Like you said - to each their own.

They moved their because they believed the hype at both ends. The uk media hyperbole and the often touted simple heavenly NZ lifestyle. They did what many people do and for them it was a great experience that allowed them to appreciate what they had which enabled a much improved mindset and appreciation when they returned to the UK.

Keeping up with the jones is a a westernised (and probably industrialized country) thing so unless you truly moved into the middle of nowhere or into 3rd world poverty, it'll be there.

Personally, I choose not to play that game and stay out of the rat race. It's achievable no matter where you live. I had the same in London and loved it too. The main problem is lifestyle choice. Most people want the best of both worlds and it's simply not possible for them.

I count my lucky chickens every day and am always appreciative and content with what I have as often as possible. For me that's one of the keys to being happy. I couldn't live like many on here, always looking for the elusive nirvana.

Time for another beer :thumbup:

Lvh76 Jun 2nd 2012 10:57 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 10096999)
They moved their because they believed the hype at both ends. The uk media hyperbole and the often touted simple heavenly NZ lifestyle. They did what many people do and for them it was a great experience that allowed them to appreciate what they had which enabled a much improved mindset and appreciation when they returned to the UK.

Keeping up with the jones is a a westernised (and probably industrialized country) thing so unless you truly moved into the middle of nowhere or into 3rd world poverty, it'll be there.

Personally, I choose not to play that game and stay out of the rat race. It's achievable no matter where you live. I had the same in London and loved it too. The main problem is lifestyle choice. Most people want the best of both worlds and it's simply not possible for them.

I count my lucky chickens every day and am always appreciative and content with what I have as often as possible. For me that's one of the keys to being happy. I couldn't live like many on here, always looking for the elusive nirvana.

Time for another beer :thumbup:

I concur


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