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Old Dec 25th 2016, 10:55 pm
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Originally Posted by dbd33 View Post
If you live in Canada then you get used to flying from US airports whether you're going to the US or elsewhere; it's rarely a reasonable option to fly from Canada. I don't see that as a problem, if you're in Vancouver or Toronto then the US airport is likely as convenient as the Canadian one. Still, yes, fares are cheaper in Europe.
Not sure about Toronto, but out of YVR for the last year US airlines have been using the weak loonie to their advantage and offering fares on par and sometimes cheaper when compared to Bellingham and Seattle.

Our flight to San Diego my dad got for us in November $220 round trip per person from Vancouver, same price as from Vancouver, and cheaper then Bellingham.

Downside is YVR is a pain to get to where Bellingham is close and easy, but for the savings it was worth going to YVR.



Originally Posted by xxdb View Post
AND it's STILL not what I would consider to be cheap. $300 is huge when it's multipled by four. 25 quid multiplied by four is only 100 quid for four people.
$300 I agree is far from cheap and not what I call affordable.
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Old Dec 26th 2016, 12:05 am
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If you live in Canada then you get used to flying from US airports whether you're going to the US or elsewhere; it's rarely a reasonable option to fly from Canada. I don't see that as a problem, if you're in Vancouver or Toronto then the US airport is likely as convenient as the Canadian one. Still, yes, fares are cheaper in Europe.


I said that the fares in Canada are really expensive.

You responded by posting an expensive fare as an example of "reasonable" and ALSO you have to drive to the USA to get it.

PS I don't have to get used to it: I'm SIX HOURS away by car.

You're probably still confused as I laugh out loud.
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PS I don't have to get used to it: I'm SIX HOURS away by car.
Well, you may live in the middle of nowhere but most people in Canada live along the border and, of those, most are to the east so they can use Detroit or Buffalo. For most people in Canada there's no reason to take a flight that originates at an airport in Canada unless, as jsmth explains, there's a special promotion.

Fares aren't as cheap as in Europe but, so long as one isn't limited to using airports physically in Canada, they're not massively expensive either. I accept that your location is awkward but the same would be true if, for example, you lived in the Hebrides; somewhere that Easyjet and Ryanair don't go.
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Originally Posted by dbd33 View Post

Fares aren't as cheap as in Europe but, so long as one isn't limited to using airports physically in Canada, they're not massively expensive either.
That's exactly what I'm arguing about and you can't seem to get it.

They ARE massively expensive. 5X more is massively expensive.

This is exactly the type of baffled advice you get on this forum: people say "it's cheap in Canada" and then they post this sort of stuff.

You should just surrender right now and hang your head in shame.

But I know you won't because they never do.
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AND it's STILL not what I would consider to be cheap. $300 is huge when it's multipled by four. 25 quid multiplied by four is only 100 quid for four people.....
Yes, it's a pain not having cheap flight options. Or even reasonably priced holiday options.

But - and this will vary according to circumstances - the additional cost can be more than made up in those areas where housing costs are cheap.

In my part of Canada (and others) one can be very nicely housed at a fraction of the costs of worse accommodation in the UK and that saving more than covers the aditional costs of flying.
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Yes, it's a pain not having cheap flight options. Or even reasonably priced holiday options.

But - and this will vary according to circumstances - the additional cost can be more than made up in those areas where housing costs are cheap.

In my part of Canada (and others) one can be very nicely housed at a fraction of the costs of worse accommodation in the UK and that saving more than covers the aditional costs of flying.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

The rose coloured glasses brigade are out in full force.

"A fraction" i.e. 1 divided by something, what a half? a third?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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That's exactly what I'm arguing about and you can't seem to get it.

They ARE massively expensive. 5X more is massively expensive.

This is exactly the type of baffled advice you get on this forum: people say "it's cheap in Canada" and then they post this sort of stuff.

You should just surrender right now and hang your head in shame.

But I know you won't because they never do.
Flights from Canada are, I accept, massively expensive. However, $300 for four hours in the air doesn't seem massively expensive to me. Yes, there are knock down fares in Europe but they're a relatively new and temporary feature, one it would be nice to have, but they're not a reasonable standard by which to judge fares elsewhere in the world.


I'm not, of course, saying that "it's cheap in Canada".
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Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

The rose coloured glasses brigade are out in full force.

"A fraction" i.e. 1 divided by something, what a half? a third?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Probably, yes, a fraction in NB- are you having a boring Christmas Day and trying to get a rise out of everyone?

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Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

The rose coloured glasses brigade are out in full force.

"A fraction" i.e. 1 divided by something, what a half? a third?
That's pretty moronic.
You can rent very nice one bedroom apartments here for under $600 a month. Current exchange rate makes that 360 quid.

A sample of average UK one bedroom rents:
Bristol £756
Birmingham £570
Manchester £651
Norwich £555.

So, yes you're right, some of the fractions are a half.

What a pity you don't have the wit to multiply that £200 to £400 saving each month by 12 and think about how handy that £2,400 to £4800 might be.
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Air fares of $300 for a four hour flight sound very reasonable. I regularly pay more than double that to fly from Germany to the UK at short notice. Sure Ryanair probably offer something cheaper, but like many people, I would rather not eat on Christmas Day than fly Ryanair regardless of the length of flight.

As someone who will soon move to Canada, it is obviously great to hear that Canada is awful and that anyone who says otherwise is clearly deluded or wearing the wrong tint of glasses. I have found that this forum generally contains a good balance of opinion and that the majority can provide a more rounded view of their Canadian experience.

As Stinkypup has already mentioned, a little more Christmas cheer may be required...

Merry Christmas!
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For me, airfare from Canada to Europe is always cheaper than flying from Detroit/Buffalo, but yes flying from the US to another destination in the US or even North America is cheaper than flying from YYZ/YVR.
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Air fares of $300 for a four hour flight sound very reasonable. I regularly pay more than double that to fly from Germany to the UK at short notice. Sure Ryanair probably offer something cheaper, but like many people, I would rather not eat on Christmas Day than fly Ryanair regardless of the length of flight.

As someone who will soon move to Canada, it is obviously great to hear that Canada is awful and that anyone who says otherwise is clearly deluded or wearing the wrong tint of glasses. I have found that this forum generally contains a good balance of opinion and that the majority can provide a more rounded view of their Canadian experience.

As Stinkypup has already mentioned, a little more Christmas cheer may be required...

Merry Christmas!
Since I glanced at that $300 fare, I'm now seeing ads for $200, even $150, though the $150 probably goes between two tiny airports only vaguely near the places wanted.

A greater criticism of the travel options from Canada might be that there's nowhere different to go. The US, while scenically compelling, is culturally just the same as Canada.
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For me, airfare from Canada to Europe is always cheaper than flying from Detroit/Buffalo, but yes flying from the US to another destination in the US or even North America is cheaper than flying from YYZ/YVR.
I don't know how this can be the case. I suppose I've flown home 100 times and it's always been cheaper to go from Buffalo and cheapest to go Buffalo-Hub-EuroHub-London. Of course, sometimes that's too much bother but when the difference is $1000/seat, I'll go via everywhere.
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I don't know how this can be the case. I suppose I've flown home 100 times and it's always been cheaper to go from Buffalo and cheapest to go Buffalo-Hub-EuroHub-London. Of course, sometimes that's too much bother but when the difference is $1000/seat, I'll go via everywhere.
What airline/booking agent? I don't really care if I go on the milk run if i'm just flying by myself.
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Air fares of $300 for a four hour flight sound very reasonable. I regularly pay more than double that to fly from Germany to the UK at short notice. Sure Ryanair probably offer something cheaper, but like many people, I would rather not eat on Christmas Day than fly Ryanair regardless of the length of flight.

As someone who will soon move to Canada, it is obviously great to hear that Canada is awful and that anyone who says otherwise is clearly deluded or wearing the wrong tint of glasses. I have found that this forum generally contains a good balance of opinion and that the majority can provide a more rounded view of their Canadian experience.

As Stinkypup has already mentioned, a little more Christmas cheer may be required...

Merry Christmas!
I think you understand that you have to give it a good length of time to settle. It took me longer than the rest of my family. But clearly most of us wouldn't be here if we thought Canada was that awful. Sure I miss stuff from the UK, and I get insecure about the future but, as my husband reminds me, what a gift to have been able to immigrate.

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