GM laying off 30,000 by 2008
Nov 24th 2005, 4:28 am
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Re: GM laying off 30,000 by 2008
Originally Posted by Tiaribbon
I don't actually have any gripe with school buses or aeroplanes or "big ass" gas guzzler vehicles. I couldn't give a toss what anyone drives to be perfectly honest; global warming is not top of my list of priorities and to be honest having done a lot of research on it and seeing that it has happened many, many times before I don't put a whole load of stock in the fact that my truck is going to be the damnation of this planet.
My reply was a touche' response to a rather simplistic comment.
So how far away from your children's school do you all live, townsfolk living in towns/cities? And why do you not walk to school or shops?
My reply was a touche' response to a rather simplistic comment.
So how far away from your children's school do you all live, townsfolk living in towns/cities? And why do you not walk to school or shops?
You are having a bad day.
No need to take it out on me!
Nov 24th 2005, 4:39 am
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Re: GM laying off 30,000 by 2008
Originally Posted by Tiaribbon
So how far away from your children's school do you all live, townsfolk living in towns/cities? And why do you not walk to school or shops?
I walk to work too.
Nov 24th 2005, 11:22 am
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Re: GM laying off 30,000 by 2008
Originally Posted by Cowtown
Did you actually read what I wrote? Its a tad over the top in response to my comment. The answer to your question was in fact in my original post.
You are having a bad day. No need to take it out on me!
You are having a bad day.
No need to take it out on me!
Nov 24th 2005, 12:26 pm
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Re: GM laying off 30,000 by 2008
Originally Posted by Rich_007
Wal-Mart - no, never. For the usual reasons. Labour relations etc. Oh and I'm highly anti the Americanisation of Canada in cultural and commercial terms. Nor will I eat the vile spew from McDonalds, wear Nike, fly with a US airline, vacation in the US, watch US news, etc.
Products - I had every consideration where my car was made, but no real equivalent was available. Yes,a four door car with 4 wheels and a gasoline engine sure, but no equality in every other respect in which I was looking. Some say that you are what you drive and who really wants to look like a sack of shit, when there are alternatives ? Generally, first I check the source and if a local/national comparable is available I'll buy Canadian, esp grocery. I don't go for price as a factor, in fact I would buy BC apples even when they're more expensive than US Washington State apples. I care where my $CA goes. Made in USA means SFA to me - I'm not a "continentalist" - the USA is the Great Satan as far as I'm concerned in every single respect. I'm anti NAFTA and free trade, naturally.
Greed is good - erm, not sure where you got that misunderstanding from, I don't think anyone who knows me would mistake my ethos, beliefs and values.
So basically I think you have absolutely no idea what I'm about. I've seen the shiny grey-suited slick-haired dark Satanic Mammon at work, been inside its lair, seen its evil deeds at close quarters, had to account for its lies and deceits and seen good people treated like numbers in an accounting system. I've seen things that would make your hail curl, and I gladly washed my hands of it all.
Rich.
Products - I had every consideration where my car was made, but no real equivalent was available. Yes,a four door car with 4 wheels and a gasoline engine sure, but no equality in every other respect in which I was looking. Some say that you are what you drive and who really wants to look like a sack of shit, when there are alternatives ? Generally, first I check the source and if a local/national comparable is available I'll buy Canadian, esp grocery. I don't go for price as a factor, in fact I would buy BC apples even when they're more expensive than US Washington State apples. I care where my $CA goes. Made in USA means SFA to me - I'm not a "continentalist" - the USA is the Great Satan as far as I'm concerned in every single respect. I'm anti NAFTA and free trade, naturally.
Greed is good - erm, not sure where you got that misunderstanding from, I don't think anyone who knows me would mistake my ethos, beliefs and values.
So basically I think you have absolutely no idea what I'm about. I've seen the shiny grey-suited slick-haired dark Satanic Mammon at work, been inside its lair, seen its evil deeds at close quarters, had to account for its lies and deceits and seen good people treated like numbers in an accounting system. I've seen things that would make your hail curl, and I gladly washed my hands of it all.
Rich.
Nov 24th 2005, 12:29 pm
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Re: GM laying off 30,000 by 2008
Originally Posted by macadian
You Can't fart against thunder ...end of story!
Nov 24th 2005, 1:09 pm
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Re: GM laying off 30,000 by 2008
Originally Posted by Rich_007
Some say that you are what you drive and who really wants to look like a sack of shit, when there are alternatives ?
Rich.
Rich.
It doesn't look like a "sack of shit" to me though, it looks like every other mini-van. I'm not too fussed anyway, the wife does 80% of the driving, the kids use it as a playground getting in with ski-boots on and eating whatever and dropping it all over the floor.
I've never had a "good" car, and probably never will. We always buy an ex-demo with a long warranty thus avoiding the immediate depreciation hit.
Cars are just a hole into which one can pour money.
But the money we don't spend on high end cars we've invested and done very well on it.
BTW My mountain bike is high end and built in Canada
Nov 24th 2005, 1:25 pm
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Re: GM laying off 30,000 by 2008
I think the Canadian economy is a subisidiary of the US one and that what happens south of the border is more important to the financial wellbeing of Canadians than what happens north of it.
Nov 24th 2005, 2:02 pm
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Re: GM laying off 30,000 by 2008
Originally Posted by MarkG
Five years ago, yes. With a commodities boom today, I think the western provinces are going to be increasingly insulated from what happens in America.
Nov 24th 2005, 2:08 pm
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Re: GM laying off 30,000 by 2008
I'd imagine the US is an important market for Canadian commodities and I'd think increased oil drilling in Alaska might have an effect.
Nov 25th 2005, 12:49 pm
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Re: GM laying off 30,000 by 2008
Originally Posted by dbd33
Still, here we're very much insulated from the western provinces, so I don't pay a lot of attention.
Nov 26th 2005, 10:35 am
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Re: GM laying off 30,000 by 2008
[/QUOTE]- witness Ford closing Dagenham in the UK, turning Halewood into a Jag plant etc.[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]Ford in the UK reduced capacity by closing Dagenham rather than higher cost German plants because it was easier to do it in the UK.[/QUOTE]
Small point, but for anyone who may be interested Dagenham is still going and has just been assigned production of the new Ford diesel engine.
I work for Ford in the UK so i can sympathise with the lay offs for GM as, like previously posted, the legacy costs attached to vehicle production are going to make it impossible to compete with manufacturers such as Toyota in the future. Especially as Ford is traditionally a close follower rather than industry innovator.
[/QUOTE]Ford in the UK reduced capacity by closing Dagenham rather than higher cost German plants because it was easier to do it in the UK.[/QUOTE]
Small point, but for anyone who may be interested Dagenham is still going and has just been assigned production of the new Ford diesel engine.
I work for Ford in the UK so i can sympathise with the lay offs for GM as, like previously posted, the legacy costs attached to vehicle production are going to make it impossible to compete with manufacturers such as Toyota in the future. Especially as Ford is traditionally a close follower rather than industry innovator.
