FROZEN Pensions - Action Needed
Jun 21st 2007, 1:33 pm
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Re: FROZEN Pensions - Action Needed
No. Your complaint seems to be that it's unfair to pay increases to some people and not to others. The sentiment of the UK taxpayer is doubtless that, since the pensioners have pissed off to pastures greener, paying them anything is inappropriate. Paying everyone the rate at the time they left seems a fair compromise and has the added benefit of leaving money in the country for the benefit of the population there; immigrant or not.
My argument therefore is to put you straight -
Everyone regardless of where they are should be entitled to linked pensions
Jun 21st 2007, 1:37 pm
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I wouldn't P**S on Bush or B liar they have a lot to answer for and should be held to account for what mess they have created.
Refugees from almost anywhere in the world.....mmmm let me see where are you suggesting then.
Dharfor....err no coz they don't give a toss about them.
And as I said why do refugees have to cross endless miles to make for the UK then.
We went to Sierra Leon....oh yes silly billy....they have masses of oil there don't they.
Refugees from almost anywhere in the world.....mmmm let me see where are you suggesting then.
Dharfor....err no coz they don't give a toss about them.
And as I said why do refugees have to cross endless miles to make for the UK then.
We went to Sierra Leon....oh yes silly billy....they have masses of oil there don't they.
Pakistan* 1,085,000
Iran 716,000
Germany 700,000
Tanzania 549,000
USA* 380,000
http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/country?iso=usa
This is a list of the source countries of refugees (it's by applications to the US but illustrates the range of countries)
Somalia
Ethiopia
Liberia
Cuba
Bosnia
Unkraine
Sierra Leone
Sudan
Iran
Vietnam
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/im...s-applications
So, yes, 'most anywhere in the world.
Jun 21st 2007, 1:38 pm
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Well thats very good of you aint it to be one of those model parents where everything is rosey in your world and nice and fluffy lah dee daa dee daa.....have you ever set foot in some of the inner cities in the UK where some parents are struggling to eat never mind pay their kids through Uni......
Jun 21st 2007, 1:41 pm
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That seems rather greedy. If people have deserted their homeland they can hardly expect the government there to stress about them, pensions, access to the NHS, council houses, dole; these things should really end when you leave. A non-indexed payment is a workable compromise.
Jun 21st 2007, 1:47 pm
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I can't see how anyone could argue with this statement, not logically anyway...
Jun 21st 2007, 1:51 pm
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For your consideration, this is a list of the countries hosting the most refugees:
Pakistan* 1,085,000
Iran 716,000
Germany 700,000
Tanzania 549,000
USA* 380,000
http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/country?iso=usa
This is a list of the source countries of refugees (it's by applications to the US but illustrates the range of countries)
Somalia
Ethiopia
Liberia
Cuba
Bosnia
Unkraine
Sierra Leone
Sudan
Iran
Vietnam
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/im...s-applications
So, yes, 'most anywhere in the world.
Pakistan* 1,085,000
Iran 716,000
Germany 700,000
Tanzania 549,000
USA* 380,000
http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/country?iso=usa
This is a list of the source countries of refugees (it's by applications to the US but illustrates the range of countries)
Somalia
Ethiopia
Liberia
Cuba
Bosnia
Unkraine
Sierra Leone
Sudan
Iran
Vietnam
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/im...s-applications
So, yes, 'most anywhere in the world.
The above countries are obviously a lot larger than the UK.
As for the other list most of those countries have no conflict going on so how the hell can they be refugees...Cuba? Iran? Vietnam? Kuoni are sell top class F*****G 5* holidays there we nearly booked one for our honeymoon, F*****G Bosnia again.
Anyway we will just have to agree to disagree on this subject and my original post regarding pensions.
Therefore lets get back to pensions from here on Thanks
Jun 21st 2007, 1:55 pm
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If you have paid into a savings plan for ex amount of years then it should pay out regardless where you are.
Anyway how many of you have really deserted YOUR HOMELAND and handed back your UK passports.
If you want nothing to do with the UK and have deserted it then give them up......why on earth would you ever need it again........plenty of refugees would want them.
Jun 21st 2007, 2:02 pm
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Well over 400.000 can.
If you have paid into a savings plan for ex amount of years then it should pay out regardless where you are.
Anyway how many of you have really deserted YOUR HOMELAND and handed back your UK passports.
If you want nothing to do with the UK and have deserted it then give them up......why on earth would you ever need it again........plenty of refugees would want them.
If you have paid into a savings plan for ex amount of years then it should pay out regardless where you are.
Anyway how many of you have really deserted YOUR HOMELAND and handed back your UK passports.
If you want nothing to do with the UK and have deserted it then give them up......why on earth would you ever need it again........plenty of refugees would want them.
Jun 21st 2007, 2:10 pm
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Anyway, pensions it is.
Jun 21st 2007, 2:12 pm
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The payout should only cover the time you worked and lived in the UK, once you leave the UK, for whatever reason, you forfeit that right.
Jun 21st 2007, 2:13 pm
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Well over 400.000 can.
If you have paid into a savings plan for ex amount of years then it should pay out regardless where you are.
Anyway how many of you have really deserted YOUR HOMELAND and handed back your UK passports.
If you want nothing to do with the UK and have deserted it then give them up......why on earth would you ever need it again........plenty of refugees would want them.
If you have paid into a savings plan for ex amount of years then it should pay out regardless where you are.
Anyway how many of you have really deserted YOUR HOMELAND and handed back your UK passports.
If you want nothing to do with the UK and have deserted it then give them up......why on earth would you ever need it again........plenty of refugees would want them.
I have deserted my homeland in that I no longer pay taxes there. Since I don't pay the taxes, it would be improper of me to try to claim the benefits.
Jun 21st 2007, 2:18 pm
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Re: FROZEN Pensions - Action Needed
No, I considered citing that but thought the OP might not care for an American reference. This is the one:
"Holidays In The Sun"
A Cheap holiday in other peoples misery!
I don't wanna holiday in the sun
I wanna go to new Belsen
I wanna see some history
'Cause now I got a reasonable economy
Now I got a reason, now I got a reason
Now I got a reason and I'm still waiting
Now I got a reason
Now I got reason to be waiting
The Berlin Wall......
http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/sexpis...sinthesun.html
Jun 21st 2007, 2:20 pm
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Oh and this bit by dbd33:
It's not a savings plan. It's a government benefit paid for by the current taxpayers.
Jun 21st 2007, 2:23 pm
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It CAN be changed if enough people want it to things can be done...it doesn't have to stay the way it is just coz the government have it that way.