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Old Apr 1st 2011, 7:38 pm
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"Cheap" and "Xmas" are mutually exclusive I'm afraid.

Least eye wateringly expensive would be more accurate.
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Default Re: Flights Prices more expensive from canada,

Originally Posted by iaink
"Cheap" and "Xmas" are mutually exclusive I'm afraid.

Least eye wateringly expensive would be more accurate.
if I can't fly home for less than 400quid return then it may be my first Xmas with out being with my family.
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Originally Posted by loss
if I can't fly home for less than 400quid return then it may be my first Xmas with out being with my family.
During the actual holiday period I dont fancy your chances. Whats that, $600 or so at the moment? Normaly its double that. Good Luck thought.
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Ok, so did some checking.

Canadian Affair

UK Site:
Gatwick to Calgary 11-5-11
Calgary to Gatwick 18-5-11
Flights - 94.50 GBP
Taxes & Surcharges - 273.50 GBP
Total - 368 GBP


Canadian Site:
Calgary to Gatwick 11-5-11
Gatwick to Calgary 18-5-11
Flights - 149 CAD
Taxes & Surcharges - 484 CAD
Total - 633 CAD



If we use XE for our currency conversion (today: 1 GBP = 1.55477 CAD) then you can see the actual FLIGHT portion of the cost is almost exactly the same:

94.50 GBP = 146.90 CAD
149 CAD = 95.84 GBP


The total price for the flights purchased in Canada are substantially more expensive, which proves that yes, the reason flights are more expensive in Canada is due to the taxes and surcharges.

368.00 GBP = 572.02 CAD
633.00 CAD = 407.22 GBP
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Originally Posted by brizzle
How so? The taxes alone seem to be $4-500 on a return flight, however you book it. The absolute cheapest flights seem to be around $800 return all in. From the UK end it's about 3-400 quid. Surely the taxes alone exceed $187.



That's what I'm seeing.
I made mistake one way taxes included in economy is $268.17 not $187.00. Here is the breakdown:

BANK CHARGES 1 GBP 5.36 GBP 5.36
FLIGHT PRICE 1 GBP 70.50 GBP 70.50
PREMIUM UPGRADE 1 GBP 99.00 GBP 99.00
AIRPORT TAX & SURCHARGES 1 GBP 98.50 GBP 98.50
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from Toronto To Gatwick

Traveling This Monday and Coming Back 11th of April
its cost about CAD800 which is £508

From Gatwick to Toronto
this Monday and Coming Back 11th April
It costs £333 which is about CAD523

nearly £200 more.
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Originally Posted by loss
from Toronto To Gatwick

Traveling This Monday and Coming Back 11th of April
its cost about CAD800 which is £508

From Gatwick to Toronto
this Monday and Coming Back 11th April
It costs £333 which is about CAD523

nearly £200 more.
Don't pick such near flights. There may be other factors in play, like one of the flights being nearly full.

Look at my example (mid may) - that is a far better picture of the situation. There's a price difference (due to taxes) but it's not as wild as your "flying in 5 minutes" example.
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ok so the thing to do as already been said is to phone the London office.
or as I will do get a friend or family member to phone up and give them the money.
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Originally Posted by Canuck74
I made mistake one way taxes included in economy is $268.17 not $187.00. Here is the breakdown:

BANK CHARGES 1 GBP 5.36 GBP 5.36
FLIGHT PRICE 1 GBP 70.50 GBP 70.50
PREMIUM UPGRADE 1 GBP 99.00 GBP 99.00
AIRPORT TAX & SURCHARGES 1 GBP 98.50 GBP 98.50
Cheers. Yes that seems more like it. Still, excellent price you secured there.
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Originally Posted by Photoplex
Don't pick such near flights. There may be other factors in play, like one of the flights being nearly full.

Look at my example (mid may) - that is a far better picture of the situation. There's a price difference (due to taxes) but it's not as wild as your "flying in 5 minutes" example.
yes but what I'm looking at is the differance between last min flights, as these are the cheapest,

I can find flights as low £7.50 not including taxes one way from the Uk,

from Toronto I can't find anything less $150 not Including Taxes, and then Canada charge extra taxes on top.

and this looking at last min flights over 2months.

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Originally Posted by spaceace
yes, but can you book at Canada -> UK -> Canada flight from the UK ?
Originally Posted by dbd33
Yes.
Er...No, actually.

The IATA Ticketing Rules are quite specific. A ticket can only be used from its 'Point of Origin' (ie: the UK, if booked in the UK or by phone from elsewhere with a UK agent) and return.

The return portion of a round-trip ticket can only be used if the outbound part has been canceled. So buying a UK-->Canada return hoping to use only the return part for a cheaper flight to the UK, will not work either.

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Originally Posted by AdrianR
Er...No, actually.

The IATA Ticketing Rules are quite specific. A ticket can only be used from its 'Point of Origin' (ie: the UK, if booked in the UK or by phone from elsewhere with a UK agent) and return.

The return portion of a round-trip ticket can only be used if the outbound part has been canceled. So buying a UK-->Canada return hoping to use only the return part for a cheaper flight to the UK, will not work either.

yes but people phone london and ask for canada-->uk flight,
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Er...No, actually.

The IATA Ticketing Rules are quite specific. A ticket can only be used from its 'Point of Origin' (ie: the UK, if booked in the UK or by phone from elsewhere with a UK agent) and return.
Er, before switching to booking online I used an agent for my business travel based in Texas, we bought dozens, perhaps hundreds, of tickets from Toronto to various locations in the US and around the world through that agent and were billed in US dollars. Whatever the definition of "point of origin" may be for this purpose either it doesn't mean, "you have to go to Canada to buy a ticket outbound from Canada" or the rule is widely ignored. Note also the umpteen recent examples cited on various threads here of people phoning the UK and saving money.

Indeed, now that I think of it, I have a ticket outbound from America for a flight this month. I didn't drive to America to buy it.
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...Indeed, now that I think of it, I have a ticket outbound from America for a flight this month. I didn't drive to America to buy it.
Then I stand corrected, apparently.
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Then I stand corrected, apparently.
During my round the world travels I also purchased countless tickets in random countries, for other countries, routes, and airlines unconnected to the country of purchase.
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