first tax return
#1
Hi I have spent the morning researching how to fill out our first tax return in Canada.
I have a few questions
1) We moved here in May 2012, I understand we both have to fill out a form even though I havent earnt since 2011, to be able to carry on claiming tax credits for our boys as hubby works and needs to submit a return and the tax credits are in my name am I right to think this? Or do we do a joint one?
2) We have been informed that we can claim moving expenses for our move to canada, cost of shipping, hotel stay, food ect, not sure how reliable this sorce is and the forms I have looked at are not totally clear to me, does anyone have any insight into this. We are not trying to claim everything we can, we paid a lot of money out when we made the move and it would be lovely to claim some back if we could
3) Are they as hard to fill out as they look! I just downloaded the general income tax and benefit guide and its 63 pages long! oh well it has to be done lol.
Thankyou for any info you may have on this. I have looked at this form and it isent clear to me weather we can claim for expenses when we landed.
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/t1-m/README.html
I have a few questions
1) We moved here in May 2012, I understand we both have to fill out a form even though I havent earnt since 2011, to be able to carry on claiming tax credits for our boys as hubby works and needs to submit a return and the tax credits are in my name am I right to think this? Or do we do a joint one?
2) We have been informed that we can claim moving expenses for our move to canada, cost of shipping, hotel stay, food ect, not sure how reliable this sorce is and the forms I have looked at are not totally clear to me, does anyone have any insight into this. We are not trying to claim everything we can, we paid a lot of money out when we made the move and it would be lovely to claim some back if we could

3) Are they as hard to fill out as they look! I just downloaded the general income tax and benefit guide and its 63 pages long! oh well it has to be done lol.
Thankyou for any info you may have on this. I have looked at this form and it isent clear to me weather we can claim for expenses when we landed.
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/t1-m/README.html
#2
I do not believe you can claim for your move to Canada. It's not something for new immigrants. That is usually only avail to people moving within Canada for work... (edit, looking at the form you linked, or students)
To be honest, I'd probably pay for someone to do your first return. It has to be submitted in paper anyway.
Next year, once you are "in the system", you can file yourself electronically.
To be honest, I'd probably pay for someone to do your first return. It has to be submitted in paper anyway.
Next year, once you are "in the system", you can file yourself electronically.
Last edited by ann m; Jan 16th 2013 at 3:55 am.
#3
as far as i remember , no you can't claim your moving expenses for when you move to Canada.
there are certain circumstances when moving within Canada as part of your job etc , but I believe the general consensus is that your initial move to canada isn't eligible
as for the forms, most people use online sofware like Quicktax or HR block etc. Our bank offers a discount on one or other of these packages. Some are free. Or you can pay someone to do it for you. HR block have offices all over the place but never used them so can't say how good they are.
I think I recall that the first year you can't file online , you have to mail it.
most people manage to do there taxes fairly reasonably themselves. Don't be intimidated.
there are certain circumstances when moving within Canada as part of your job etc , but I believe the general consensus is that your initial move to canada isn't eligible
as for the forms, most people use online sofware like Quicktax or HR block etc. Our bank offers a discount on one or other of these packages. Some are free. Or you can pay someone to do it for you. HR block have offices all over the place but never used them so can't say how good they are.
I think I recall that the first year you can't file online , you have to mail it.
most people manage to do there taxes fairly reasonably themselves. Don't be intimidated.
#4
as far as i remember , no you can't claim your moving expenses for when you move to Canada.
there are certain circumstances when moving within Canada as part of your job etc , but I believe the general consensus is that your initial move to canada isn't eligible
as for the forms, most people use online sofware like Quicktax or HR block etc. Our bank offers a discount on one or other of these packages. Some are free. Or you can pay someone to do it for you. HR block have offices all over the place but never used them so can't say how good they are.
I think I recall that the first year you can't file online , you have to mail it.
most people manage to do there taxes fairly reasonably themselves. Don't be intimidated.
there are certain circumstances when moving within Canada as part of your job etc , but I believe the general consensus is that your initial move to canada isn't eligible
as for the forms, most people use online sofware like Quicktax or HR block etc. Our bank offers a discount on one or other of these packages. Some are free. Or you can pay someone to do it for you. HR block have offices all over the place but never used them so can't say how good they are.
I think I recall that the first year you can't file online , you have to mail it.
most people manage to do there taxes fairly reasonably themselves. Don't be intimidated.
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Hi I have spent the morning researching how to fill out our first tax return in Canada.
I have a few questions
1) We moved here in May 2012, I understand we both have to fill out a form even though I havent earnt since 2011, to be able to carry on claiming tax credits for our boys as hubby works and needs to submit a return and the tax credits are in my name am I right to think this? Or do we do a joint one?
I have a few questions
1) We moved here in May 2012, I understand we both have to fill out a form even though I havent earnt since 2011, to be able to carry on claiming tax credits for our boys as hubby works and needs to submit a return and the tax credits are in my name am I right to think this? Or do we do a joint one?
2) We have been informed that we can claim moving expenses for our move to canada, cost of shipping, hotel stay, food ect, not sure how reliable this sorce is and the forms I have looked at are not totally clear to me, does anyone have any insight into this. We are not trying to claim everything we can, we paid a lot of money out when we made the move and it would be lovely to claim some back if we could
This comes up quite a lot so it is worth quoting the Income Tax Act:
S248(1) “eligible relocation†means a relocation of a taxpayer where
(a) the relocation occurs to enable the taxpayer
(i) to carry on a business or to be employed at a location in Canada (in section 62 and this subsection referred to as “the new work locationâ€), or
(ii) to be a student in full-time attendance enrolled in a program at a post-secondary level at a location of a university, college or other educational institution (in section 62 and in this subsection referred to as “the new work locationâ€),
(b) both the residence at which the taxpayer ordinarily resided before the relocation (in section 62 and this subsection referred to as “the old residenceâ€) and the residence at which the taxpayer ordinarily resided after the relocation (in section 62 and this subsection referred to as “the new residenceâ€) are in Canada, and
(c) the distance between the old residence and the new work location is not less than 40 kilometres greater than the distance between the new residence and the new work location
except that, in applying subsections 6(19) to (23) and section 62 in respect of a relocation of a taxpayer who is absent from but resident in Canada, this definition shall be read without reference to the words “in Canada †in subparagraph (a)(i), and without reference to paragraph (b);
Paragraph b) says that the move must be from one residence in Canada to another residence in Canada. There is an exception for someone who is absent from, but resident in, Canada. The intention of this exemption is that people such as military personnel who are posted abroad, but still remain tax-resident in Canada, can benefit from the deduction.
3) Are they as hard to fill out as they look! I just downloaded the general income tax and benefit guide and its 63 pages long! oh well it has to be done lol.
A couple of things to keep in mind.
1) You have to file a hard copy of your tax return for the year you first come to Canada. You can net-file in subsequent years.
2) You have to prorate some tax credits (like the personal amount) for the part of the year you were living in Canada.
Last edited by JonboyE; Jan 16th 2013 at 4:14 am.
#6
Turbo tax is good, you can get it online. We filed our own the first year, its really very straight forward.
The only complicated bit was because we moved cash over in tranches at different exchange rates, it has to be a gain/loss calculation against the rate on the day you landed.
We had our medicals here, I claimed those back.
Dont forget to keep all receipts for health costs - prescriptions that you have to pay for (after any health insurance you may have has paid a percentage) and all childcare receipts, receipts for sports and summer clubs etc.
Turbo tax asks you questions, you just have to then fill in the boxes and it prints it all out for you at the end - magic!
Oh and Jonboye IS the font of all tax return knowledge! I can speak from experience!
The only complicated bit was because we moved cash over in tranches at different exchange rates, it has to be a gain/loss calculation against the rate on the day you landed.
We had our medicals here, I claimed those back.
Dont forget to keep all receipts for health costs - prescriptions that you have to pay for (after any health insurance you may have has paid a percentage) and all childcare receipts, receipts for sports and summer clubs etc.
Turbo tax asks you questions, you just have to then fill in the boxes and it prints it all out for you at the end - magic!
Oh and Jonboye IS the font of all tax return knowledge! I can speak from experience!
#8
Thankyou for all your help I feel much better informed
Shame we cant claim but never mind I will look into getting some software thanks again.
Shame we cant claim but never mind I will look into getting some software thanks again.
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If you want a simple to use and FREE tax software, authorised for use by the CRA, may I suggest http://www.studiotax.com/en/ - I used it last year and it explains everything step by step and suggests things you may not have considered applying for.
#10
Turbo tax is good, you can get it online. We filed our own the first year, its really very straight forward.
The only complicated bit was because we moved cash over in tranches at different exchange rates, it has to be a gain/loss calculation against the rate on the day you landed.
We had our medicals here, I claimed those back.
Dont forget to keep all receipts for health costs - prescriptions that you have to pay for (after any health insurance you may have has paid a percentage) and all childcare receipts, receipts for sports and summer clubs etc.
Turbo tax asks you questions, you just have to then fill in the boxes and it prints it all out for you at the end - magic!
Oh and Jonboye IS the font of all tax return knowledge! I can speak from experience!
The only complicated bit was because we moved cash over in tranches at different exchange rates, it has to be a gain/loss calculation against the rate on the day you landed.
We had our medicals here, I claimed those back.
Dont forget to keep all receipts for health costs - prescriptions that you have to pay for (after any health insurance you may have has paid a percentage) and all childcare receipts, receipts for sports and summer clubs etc.
Turbo tax asks you questions, you just have to then fill in the boxes and it prints it all out for you at the end - magic!
Oh and Jonboye IS the font of all tax return knowledge! I can speak from experience!
#12
For $35 save yourself the stress and hours or work and just hand your envelope of receipts and info over to an accountant. That's what I do and it's the best $35 I will ever spend in any year
#13
That is what we do, both hubby and me. Him cos he works from home and we can claim some stuff for that but takes a big load off our minds



