Aviator

Red Seal in itself is not a qualification though. The qualification is issued by a provincial training authority to Red Seal standards. Some trades are recognised as Red Seal (inter provincial), some are not.

It is possible to take the provincial exam and not take Red Seal, although having an inter provincial is beneficial for portability.

christmasoompa

I know, that's why it makes absolutely no difference to a PR application!

adamfozz

Hi, Yes, you're right I know that bar managers are on the jobs list so this gives extra points. As I said, I think we have enough points to apply for residence but to just move out there and hope for the best isn't really my style. This is why I am hoping to get the job first regardless of if we do or don't need a job offer to get into the country. There must be a lot of other people who think like this also I think. It just seems safer at a time when there are already many risks. Mitigating a biggy like income just seems like one less risk to worry about!

I think my point is, you could have all the savings in the world, if you get out there and you cant find work, your either going bankrupt or your coming home where your family can help you out.

Adam

christmasoompa

I think you're getting a bit confused! Just having enough points isn't enough - you also need experience in a job on the list of 29 eligible occupations for a Skilled Worker cat 1 application (hence why I asked about previous jobs). Having experience in one of those jobs doesn't give you extra points, although your overall Skilled work experience does.

But if you could apply for PR as a SW, then you'd have a much better chance of finding work in Canada - you'd have approx 4 years after receiving PR before you had to move anyway so plenty of time to find a job, and of course you'd be work authorised so able to start immediately which would make you much more attractive to employers. Contrast that with going on a Temp Work Permit for which you'd need an employer prepared to go through the wait/paperwork/hassle of applying for the LMO for you, and you can begin to see why applying for PR straight away would be better if you can.

adamfozz

Ok. I see what your saying now. It makes a lot of sense getting the PR first but I guess. What your were saying about experience. Thought that my experience in purchasing would fall under the professional business category. Am I right in thinking that?

delsol79

Totally second this. I found that one of the first questions companies asked was obviously about my visa status and as soon as I said I had PR and they would not have to do anything then it left a lot more doors open. So if you qualify for it I would apply and use it to your advantage when looking for work.

Atlantic Xpat

Don't hold your breath waiting for a response from PMAC (presuming thats who you've contacted). They are really only interested in selling their own training and certification & don't recognise experience gained prior to enrollment with them. I had 14 years of Supply Chain experience, upto and including Director level & they would give me no advanced standing whatsoever. So I did an MBA instead.

Is your experience direct or indirect purchasing? Do you have experience in category management, e-purchasing, etc. As a somewhat massive generalisation, I'd say that much of purchasing here is less advanced than in UK - depending upon where you've worked. This might provide opportunities for you to secure employment based on offering skills and experience not readily available in the local market.

I would recommend trawling the net for specialist purchasing/supply chain recruiters. Linked In is another useful tool. I've had approaches from recruiters based on my linked in profile. (essentially a potted version of my resume.)

AX

davidsk

Certainly worth a try. Try sending your CV to as many employers as you can if you see a position suits you.

The other plus point is that some employers, like mine, contribute part of your relocation expense.

adamfozz

Hi there. Some great information. I have been involved in direct and indirect purchasing and in my latest role have been responsible for strategy at a group level as well as reporting market forecasts at director level. I also work directly under the purchasing director. I actually brought some experience of e-auctions from my previous role and used it to cut 600k off the packaging spend in the first 6 months of employment.

Are they are a little bit traditional? do companies in
Canada tend to work at arms length with suppliers or is relationship
Management important in Canada too?

I haven't been a category manager but have experience in commercial purchasing and material management so I have a lot to offer I think.

Adam

davidsk

Regarding LMO, there is another way which may be quicker.

1. Try to get a job offer
2. Apply for the PNP. They will issue you an alternative support letter.
3. Use that letter to apply for your TWP

No federal LMO is needed. That is what I did.

adamfozz

Hi,

Ok that's an idea. Out of interest what level are you at? Just wondered since you say you were helped a little with relocation. I assume that companies only tend to offer this if you either transfer from the uk or you are at senior management level.

Adam

Atlantic Xpat

You are unlikely to get relocation paid at Buyer level IMHO. Manager or Director, possibly. I got my airfare paid but then I was moving over anyway.

davidsk

Not really. I am at middle-level. Some companies do so. As far as I know my employer contributes the relocation expense to everyone who needs to relocate.

adamfozz

Ok, A couple of different opinions on this so I guess I will just play it by ear. Try and use the old negotiation skills if I get a job offer!

Guess I will just start to fire off CV's once I have converted them to the Canadian Style.


DavidSK If you dont have LMO does this make it more difficult if /when you apply for PR?


Adam

davidsk

Once your PNP is approved, you will apply for your PR via PNP. Generally it is quicker than FSW.