feeling sad its all going wrong
#1
Thread Starter
Just Joined
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6
From: currently in nothumberland hoping for vancouver



I really just need to put down my utterly yucky feelings it looks like we are not going to get through the red immigration tape and just feeling sad and hoping that this is just a blip and we will get through but really i doubt itJust sad my husband has a Good job offer in vancouver and they were happy to do everything to bring us over even pack our things here but I was honest and open and said I have very mild lupus and so now they don't think that we will be able to get through the immigration process and pass the "not being a drain on canadian healthcare" so feeling down disheartened but i suppose you never know might still get through thank you to anyone who just listens just needed to vent
#2
I truly hope it all works well for you.
As they say, it's never over until the fat lady sings so try and as stay positive as possible until a final outcome is reached, one way or the other
As they say, it's never over until the fat lady sings so try and as stay positive as possible until a final outcome is reached, one way or the other
#3
no, absolutley do not give up!!
Fingers and toes crossed for you!
Fingers and toes crossed for you!
#4
I really just need to put down my utterly yucky feelings it looks like we are not going to get through the red immigration tape and just feeling sad and hoping that this is just a blip and we will get through but really i doubt itJust sad my husband has a Good job offer in vancouver and they were happy to do everything to bring us over even pack our things here but I was honest and open and said I have very mild lupus and so now they don't think that we will be able to get through the immigration process and pass the "not being a drain on canadian healthcare" so feeling down disheartened but i suppose you never know might still get through thank you to anyone who just listens just needed to vent

#5
Just Joined

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 29
From: Hertfordshire, UK











It ain't over til it's over an' all that....
Seriously, if it's something that can be kept under control, then it may not be the end of your dreams! I really hope not for you!!
Keep yr chin up!!
Lisa.
xx
Seriously, if it's something that can be kept under control, then it may not be the end of your dreams! I really hope not for you!!
Keep yr chin up!!

Lisa.
xx
#6
Forum Regular

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 49
From: Toronto


Hi,
I am so sorry you are feeling down. I would be surprised that mild lupus would cost over $5K a year to manage - that's the amount they consider to be an excessive demand on services. I was diagnosed with cancer 2 years ago and just presumed I would not be able to live here, but here I am in Canada, about to submit my PR application in a few weeks and my Immigration Lawyer (who is an expert in medical issues) does not anticipate any problems because I have been successfully treated (in the UK) and just need yearly follow up which has been costed and is only a couple of hundred $ a year. Plus the probability of this returning is so low and comes well within their own recommended limits.
I wish you well. And please let us know how things go.
I am so sorry you are feeling down. I would be surprised that mild lupus would cost over $5K a year to manage - that's the amount they consider to be an excessive demand on services. I was diagnosed with cancer 2 years ago and just presumed I would not be able to live here, but here I am in Canada, about to submit my PR application in a few weeks and my Immigration Lawyer (who is an expert in medical issues) does not anticipate any problems because I have been successfully treated (in the UK) and just need yearly follow up which has been costed and is only a couple of hundred $ a year. Plus the probability of this returning is so low and comes well within their own recommended limits.
I wish you well. And please let us know how things go.
#7
Banned








Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 3,824
From: the GTA











I assume from your thread that "they" are your husband's prospective employer and not Canadian Immigration. Would it be worthwhile, although costing you money, to do a test immigration medical with an appropriate physician and hopefully he/she could advise you if you would be recommended for immigration.
If I am away off base here no doubt others who have gone through the process will set me right.
If I am away off base here no doubt others who have gone through the process will set me right.
#8
I assume from your thread that "they" are your husband's prospective employer and not Canadian Immigration. Would it be worthwhile, although costing you money, to do a test immigration medical with an appropriate physician and hopefully he/she could advise you if you would be recommended for immigration.
If I am away off base here no doubt others who have gone through the process will set me right.
If I am away off base here no doubt others who have gone through the process will set me right.
If its basically a case of monitoring a condition, then its not going to exceed the $5 k or whatever it is. It gets even more weird though because even though the provincial coverage does not include drug costs, if a condition needs certain drugs to control it, they do seem to take the drug costs into consideration to some extent, even though that's not their financial concern!
#9
BE Enthusiast





Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 660
From: Alberta











Tis not possible to do 'test' medicals I'm afraid. Nor will the DMP give you the slightest hint about what the possible outcome of a medical and subsequent burden ruling will be if you ring them up and ask them (and believe me, I've tried!). It's a case of getting on with it, filling in the paperwork, getting your medical request, turning up, and then providing as much information and medical evidence as possible that you come in under the $5k per annum limit. Oh, and then you have to keep your fingers crossed whilst CIC pontificate, deliberate, decide if they need more evidence/ specialist medical referral etc etc.
Don't be too pessimistic mrschewie, stranger things have happened.
We are now 4 years into the wait - my youngest has a mild physical disability that may ultimately preclude us from PR. We eventually took medicals in August, and expect it to be another year before we find out whether she will be eligible for PR or not.
Can I ask, were you planning on travelling on TWP in the first instance? You still have to tick a 'medical issues' box on the application form, but it does seem to be slightly easier for those with potentially tricky medical scenarios to travel on TWP rather than wait it out for PR. It isn't such an issue now that the queues are shorter, but might be worth considering - of course you do run the risk of not having your TWP extended/ being refused PR and having to return to the UK, but may be worth considering anyway? The worst that can happen is they will ask you to take a medical before you go (only in exceptional cases for dependents, and where the applicant is in a specific job field) - and then at least you will know!
We have been lucky in that a fab opportunity with dh's work came up and we were able to move out here - but we still have no clue whether we will be retunring to the UK in 2011, or whether we will finally have made it successfully to the end of the PR queue by then!
Good luck, and battle on! You'll never know until you try!
Don't be too pessimistic mrschewie, stranger things have happened.
We are now 4 years into the wait - my youngest has a mild physical disability that may ultimately preclude us from PR. We eventually took medicals in August, and expect it to be another year before we find out whether she will be eligible for PR or not.

Can I ask, were you planning on travelling on TWP in the first instance? You still have to tick a 'medical issues' box on the application form, but it does seem to be slightly easier for those with potentially tricky medical scenarios to travel on TWP rather than wait it out for PR. It isn't such an issue now that the queues are shorter, but might be worth considering - of course you do run the risk of not having your TWP extended/ being refused PR and having to return to the UK, but may be worth considering anyway? The worst that can happen is they will ask you to take a medical before you go (only in exceptional cases for dependents, and where the applicant is in a specific job field) - and then at least you will know!
We have been lucky in that a fab opportunity with dh's work came up and we were able to move out here - but we still have no clue whether we will be retunring to the UK in 2011, or whether we will finally have made it successfully to the end of the PR queue by then!
Good luck, and battle on! You'll never know until you try!
Last edited by debbiem; Oct 6th 2009 at 5:55 am. Reason: typo
#10
Hi
Actually the recommendation is made by a CIC Medical officer (a Physician employed by Immigration) and if there is to be a refusal, it has to be concurred in by another Medical Officer. They then send their recommendation to the Visa Officer.
Problem is the doctors are not the ones who make the decision, its down to some guy in a suit at CIC, and the assesment based on "excessive" cost is a bit wishy washy. I get the impression that decisions are not necessarily all that consistent for any given condition as determined by the designated medical practisioners.
If its basically a case of monitoring a condition, then its not going to exceed the $5 k or whatever it is. It gets even more weird though because even though the provincial coverage does not include drug costs, if a condition needs certain drugs to control it, they do seem to take the drug costs into consideration to some extent, even though that's not their financial concern!
If its basically a case of monitoring a condition, then its not going to exceed the $5 k or whatever it is. It gets even more weird though because even though the provincial coverage does not include drug costs, if a condition needs certain drugs to control it, they do seem to take the drug costs into consideration to some extent, even though that's not their financial concern!
#11
BE Enthusiast





Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 660
From: Alberta











Not the DMP though - a doc in a suit at CIC
#12

Point is, its not the DMP making the decision.
#15
Thread Starter
Just Joined
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6
From: currently in nothumberland hoping for vancouver



thank you all!!!
to answer some things said my husbands new work are offering a job and have got a twp in mind and then helping us to go for PR when we are ready. they have no worries for the TWP but don't want us to get refused later when we apply for PR
i have spoken to my rheumatologist and she is writting a standard letter that she writes for immigration purposes explaining that i have very little need for medical intervention so I am hoping all will come together you have all cheered me up and got me back to the happy, excited and cheerful me

to answer some things said my husbands new work are offering a job and have got a twp in mind and then helping us to go for PR when we are ready. they have no worries for the TWP but don't want us to get refused later when we apply for PR

i have spoken to my rheumatologist and she is writting a standard letter that she writes for immigration purposes explaining that i have very little need for medical intervention so I am hoping all will come together you have all cheered me up and got me back to the happy, excited and cheerful me



