Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
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Re: Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
Strange to say that. I have used Asus products for years and never, ever had any sort of problem. I also have an Acer laptop and if you want rubbish Acer is just that. I wouldn't ever buy an Acer product again, no matter how good a deal it appeared to be. I would certainly buy Asus again.
Avoid the big chains etc if you can and go with local service.
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Re: Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
Strange to say that. I have used Asus products for years and never, ever had any sort of problem. I also have an Acer laptop and if you want rubbish Acer is just that. I wouldn't ever buy an Acer product again, no matter how good a deal it appeared to be. I would certainly buy Asus again.
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I agree
I'm not overly familiar with consumer rights in Canada, but when we land we will buy a new vehicle from a ford outlet/dealer/franchise (whatever the correct terminology is).
Judging from the treatment the OP has received from Staples (probably an appointed Asus sales outlet) and taking into account comments quoted below..
If you buy a car from a Ford franchise/outlet in North America, and (say) after 14 days the alternator fails. In law can they simply step out of the loop and tell you to deal directly with Ford to fix the problem? Do ford then tell you that they are not the manufacturer of the alternator and you need to go to the alternator manufacturer for service? I suppose I am asking where does the buck stop?
The concept is a little worrying
I'm not overly familiar with consumer rights in Canada, but when we land we will buy a new vehicle from a ford outlet/dealer/franchise (whatever the correct terminology is).
Judging from the treatment the OP has received from Staples (probably an appointed Asus sales outlet) and taking into account comments quoted below..
If you buy a car from a Ford franchise/outlet in North America, and (say) after 14 days the alternator fails. In law can they simply step out of the loop and tell you to deal directly with Ford to fix the problem? Do ford then tell you that they are not the manufacturer of the alternator and you need to go to the alternator manufacturer for service? I suppose I am asking where does the buck stop?
The concept is a little worrying
#35
Re: Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
The issue the OP has is which a reseller, not a franchised dealer. Ford, GM, Toyota dealers are franchised by the manufacturers, which is why they have service departments and carry out warranty works as well as non warranty. The manufacturer ultimately authorizes the repair as warranty, if they decline warranty, then you may end up dealing direct with the manufacturer.
#36
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Re: Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
in my experience the service is better, ie they will send the laptop back to the manufacturer. The same networking lark that gets you jobs and business can also put you out of business, word spreads fast in these small towns. Prices aren't necessarily any cheaper in the big box stores either.
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in my experience the service is better, ie they will send the laptop back to the manufacturer. The same networking lark that gets you jobs and business can also put you out of business, word spreads fast in these small towns. Prices aren't necessarily any cheaper in the big box stores either.
I did that recently with a Keurig coffee machine I bought over a year ago, and I didn't have a receipt. They could track it from my costco membership card.
How do you know your local store will treat you any better than Staples, if you've not had to use them re your laptops yet?
From a personal perspective, if my laptop is on the blink, I dont want it being sent off to the manufacturer to be looked at- I cannot afford to be without it for that long. For other domestic items, I just want a new one- the money spent on postage, etc will often exceed the price of the product anyway.
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Re: Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
Yet, you can take a product back to Costco without a receipt and they'll replace it/refund you without any aggro.
I did that recently with a Keurig coffee machine I bought over a year ago, and I didn't have a receipt. They could track it from my costco membership card.
How do you know your local store will treat you any better than Staples, if you've not had to use them re your laptops yet?
From a personal perspective, if my laptop is on the blink, I dont want it being sent off to the manufacturer to be looked at- I cannot afford to be without it for that long. For other domestic items, I just want a new one- the money spent on postage, etc will often exceed the price of the product anyway.
I did that recently with a Keurig coffee machine I bought over a year ago, and I didn't have a receipt. They could track it from my costco membership card.
How do you know your local store will treat you any better than Staples, if you've not had to use them re your laptops yet?
From a personal perspective, if my laptop is on the blink, I dont want it being sent off to the manufacturer to be looked at- I cannot afford to be without it for that long. For other domestic items, I just want a new one- the money spent on postage, etc will often exceed the price of the product anyway.
Costco only give 90 days on many electronics, then you deal with the manufacturer. Costco don't handle any warranty issues.
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Re: Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
Yet, you can take a product back to Costco without a receipt and they'll replace it/refund you without any aggro.
I did that recently with a Keurig coffee machine I bought over a year ago, and I didn't have a receipt. They could track it from my costco membership card.
How do you know your local store will treat you any better than Staples, if you've not had to use them re your laptops yet?
From a personal perspective, if my laptop is on the blink, I dont want it being sent off to the manufacturer to be looked at- I cannot afford to be without it for that long. For other domestic items, I just want a new one- the money spent on postage, etc will often exceed the price of the product anyway.
I did that recently with a Keurig coffee machine I bought over a year ago, and I didn't have a receipt. They could track it from my costco membership card.
How do you know your local store will treat you any better than Staples, if you've not had to use them re your laptops yet?
From a personal perspective, if my laptop is on the blink, I dont want it being sent off to the manufacturer to be looked at- I cannot afford to be without it for that long. For other domestic items, I just want a new one- the money spent on postage, etc will often exceed the price of the product anyway.
Am not sure about Costco..... But have noticed at futureshop, best buy & staples that you can purchase 1/2/3/4 yr "store warranty" along with product. The store will replace faulty product if you have the plan.
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Re: Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
Before you pay for one, look at the consumer reports! The mark ups are huge, I have never bought one and never once regretted not buying one. I just think of all the money I saved and spent on things i wanted or thought I needed.
The odds are stacked in the stores favour not the consumers, otherwise they would not offer such a thing. More ways to part the nervous shopper from their cash!
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#41
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Re: Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
Yet, you can take a product back to Costco without a receipt and they'll replace it/refund you without any aggro.
I did that recently with a Keurig coffee machine I bought over a year ago, and I didn't have a receipt. They could track it from my costco membership card.
How do you know your local store will treat you any better than Staples, if you've not had to use them re your laptops yet?
From a personal perspective, if my laptop is on the blink, I dont want it being sent off to the manufacturer to be looked at- I cannot afford to be without it for that long. For other domestic items, I just want a new one- the money spent on postage, etc will often exceed the price of the product anyway.
I did that recently with a Keurig coffee machine I bought over a year ago, and I didn't have a receipt. They could track it from my costco membership card.
How do you know your local store will treat you any better than Staples, if you've not had to use them re your laptops yet?
From a personal perspective, if my laptop is on the blink, I dont want it being sent off to the manufacturer to be looked at- I cannot afford to be without it for that long. For other domestic items, I just want a new one- the money spent on postage, etc will often exceed the price of the product anyway.
How do I know? Tales such as the OPs, past experience, others saying the same thing. It's hard work trying to get any sense out of Future Shop and Staples. We needed a new power cable for the old laptop, FS and Staples were charging well over a hundred when the local store sorted one out for much less. We went back to buy the laptop. On sale, much cheaper.
Costco doesn't always sell what you want/need. I agree it's an easy place to take stuff back. The Miele had to go back after a few months and like you we had lost the receipt, they exchanged it with no problems.
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Re: Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
Really. Did you buy some sort of additional warranty plan along with product?
Am not sure about Costco..... But have noticed at futureshop, best buy & staples that you can purchase 1/2/3/4 yr "store warranty" along with product. The store will replace faulty product if you have the plan.
Am not sure about Costco..... But have noticed at futureshop, best buy & staples that you can purchase 1/2/3/4 yr "store warranty" along with product. The store will replace faulty product if you have the plan.
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Re: Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
Costco guarantee every product they sell with your money back, and generously. Electronics are 90 day limit. No additional cost, but you have to be a member to shop there, items are not always the most up to date, but who cares about that. They are not good for everything though, you have to know what you are shopping for to get the best value. As always, shop smart, which many don't.
Before you pay for one, look at the consumer reports! The mark ups are huge, I have never bought one and never once regretted not buying one. I just think of all the money I saved and spent on things i wanted or thought I needed.
The odds are stacked in the stores favour not the consumers, otherwise they would not offer such a thing. More ways to part the nervous shopper from their cash!
Before you pay for one, look at the consumer reports! The mark ups are huge, I have never bought one and never once regretted not buying one. I just think of all the money I saved and spent on things i wanted or thought I needed.
The odds are stacked in the stores favour not the consumers, otherwise they would not offer such a thing. More ways to part the nervous shopper from their cash!
The following must be returned within 90 days of purchase for a refund: televisions, projectors, computers, cameras, camcorders, touch screen tablets, MP3 players and cellular phones.
Coffee maker / kitchen electronics is not in the list. That may answer how Jericho got refund/replacement.
What about furniture? Is there any timeline on such items?
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Re: Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
No, I don't believe in additional warranties. They're usually priced in such a way that suggests there's a 1 in 4 chance of them breaking down within the warranty period. I prefer to have more confidence in what I buy, otherwise I wouldn't buy it in the first place. Occasionally, products have been faulty, it usually happens quickly (within the 30 days) or after a few years when they need replacing.
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Re: Faulty laptop from Staples - what are consumer rights?
No, I don't believe in additional warranties. They're usually priced in such a way that suggests there's a 1 in 4 chance of them breaking down within the warranty period. I prefer to have more confidence in what I buy, otherwise I wouldn't buy it in the first place. Occasionally, products have been faulty, it usually happens quickly (within the 30 days) or after a few years when they need replacing.