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Link: What a long winded blather of nothingness. :zzz:

Rich.

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...And who would be YOUR favourite phylosopher?
Or is that a secret? In case people pause for breath!

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Basically my eyes closed after the first couple of paragraphs.

> Ermintrude did it for me way back. :rolleyes:

Rich.

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Try to get it right dbd33 it was CCRAP and they never accepted it but your original CRAP would do for your own personal attitude.

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Are you stupid or what? Many people are pro-abortionists and have been for more years than you will live upon this earth.

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So are you a buddist with a lager-lout attitude?

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I seem to remember that the US was not involved in a war started by themselves in Bosnia. They were, like many other nations, UN peace keepers.

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Supposedly so but IIRC they dilly-dallied and thumb-twiddled etc and while they did thousands more civvies died in the bombing, and Clinton told the story in his autobiography and he carries a burden of guilt for not acting unilaterally at the time.

I know it sounds like people moaning that the worlds biggest military power can't do right from wrong, but they certainly do their best to give that impression.

Rich.

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I don't think Trudeau had the foresight to realise the immense tax gain of a government owning the biggest purchasers of alcoholic drinks in the world - he was far too busy bonking and performing buffoonery. Not your best advertisement for a Liberal leader.

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It's a fact that if it were not for the Americans many of us would not be here now to partake in this forum. Indeed, we may all be speaking German. Well, accept for dbd who would still be blubbering his anti this and anti that thoughts and still be leaving his dog muck to stay where it landed for others to tred-in.

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I disagree that there are people who are 'pro-abortionists' as this would mean that you would people standing giving out leafets to pregant woman encoraging them to go and have an abortion. People who support abortion merely see it as the womans right to have access to free and safe medical procedures if they desire to use them.

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But you do advocate breaking the law if it suits your own purposes? Like allowing your dog to run leash free in a non-leash free zone, eh? Well, lets hope your daughter picks up some awful disease from someone who thinks similar to you on the subject. That, hopefully, may bring you around to respect and adhere to by-laws.

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And she is now a 'Liberal'

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Ooh so grateful are we ? No. Never, ever, ever.

Canada came to the aid of the whole of free Europe from the start of WW2 (or almost the very start).

US very conveniently joined in when Pearl Harbour was bombed. PH was maybe the biggest favour the Japanese could do us. Note the difference, when it really matters Canada acts, US re-acts. Big difference.

Remember also that US was still buying goods from the Nazi military-industrial bases such as Bosch, Faber, and many many more, it has been proven that if US had ceased this trade Hitler would have been screwed for income to fund his death machine. US also supplied oil based products to the Nazis; again without which Hitler would have failed, This trade continued despite Jewish community pressure in the US and efforts to publicise what was happening especially after Kristallnacht (sp) and of course post-war US was happy to take many Nazis to undertake research despite proven war crimes, and against the pleas of the War Crimes Commission, all in the name of economic scientific and social progress. Capitalism above justice at all costs eh ?

And don't think that the US gives a loose screw for the insignificant rock that is GB, .....GB means zip even now in 2005.

And don't think that the US does anything for any other single nation unless it's own self serving interests are favoured. IIRC the US ships out aid worth approx 0.01% of GNP, the least % of any developed nation. Staggering, such a generous people eh ?

The Carter government funded Islamic terrorism against Soviet Russia to the tune of $500m US. Chechnya, Taliban, Al-Quaeda etc are all the US/CIA's bastard sons. Understanding the true facts of how the world works does wonders for one's insights into the so-called civilisation that infests this lump of space rock like a virus with sneakers.

Long live freedom in the name of the military-industrial complex :rolleyes:
It may offend some and I apologise for that but I reserve my right to rage against wrong, evil, greed, apathy, corruption, liars, deceivers, bloodsucking leeches with shiny suits, snake oil salesmen, spin doctors, history rewriters, and the like.

Rich.

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Are you telling me there are no people out there who support abortion?

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Hey! Clap, clap, clap! Don't quite understand the 'snake oil salesmen' and you really should not refer to dbd33 as history rewriters, and the like'.

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Supporting the right to have access to abortion does not make you pro-arbortion. Otherwise you would have as I said have people trying to pursuade others to carry out the act.

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[QUOTE=dbd33]Bush blathers, he should have continued drinking so he'd have an excuse.
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Bit like yourself, really!

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Nothing aimed at dbd33 whatsoever, nothing personal meant, no abuse intended. I express my views in this tiny part of cyberspace, others agree disagree whatever, no problem. :D

Snake oil salesmen => shiny suited immigration consultants (i.e. the unprofessional, uncertified sector) esp of UK origin who have never lived/worked in Canada but sell soma-like dreams-in-a-bottle to unsuspecting dreamers and weave their magic web of rose-tinted spectacles whilst cashing substantial cheques for doing very little and making false promises. Snake oil...buyer beware ;)

Rich.

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Sorry, I don't understand. Please refine your point.

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CCRAP, actually and neverv adpopted.

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CCRAP, actually and never adopted.

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I think that's too insulting, even from you.

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Yea, they really like dogs running over their picnics on the beach and in the park and their owners leaving their poop to be trodden on by them and their children

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No, we have far more fear of a continuing so called Liberal government.

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Unlike yourself mother Teresa did an awful lot of good for others. 'Don't young women still need bullying when the sun shines". You have a wife who would feel good to hear you say this?

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Example please. Cite someone reasonably well known who is in favour of abortion. Not just the right to choose but who actually advocates abortions. I can only think of the eugenic policies of the Alberta government in the fifties and sixties but I'm open to other suggestions.

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The Ontario government funds a school system specifically for some Christian students as well as one for everyone else. That's bias, is it not ?

Ad Hominem, is not, btw, a Catholic hymn.

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Doesn't that support the argument that Bush is worse than Clinton ?

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Do you partake of the drink, jcexit ? Your spelling seems to have slipped rather and you've come over all corprophilic.

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Actually this disgraceful policy ran from 1928 to 1972 and affected almost 3,000 individuals. :mad::mad::mad:

Not something that many Albertans are aware of.

http://www.expressnews.ualberta.ca/article.cfm?id=4594

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Wishing illnesses on the children of people with whom one disagrees is beyond the pale. **** Off.

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I feel confident that my common law wife, a historian who, for her Masters, specialised in prostitution in Victorian England and who wrote extensively on woman's issues, would not be shocked to hear me use the term "bullying" in connection with the anti-abortion prostestors. If she does find it unreasonable she's welcome to come and see, as indeed are you. Pick any rainy day, corner of Parliament and Gerrard.

I know my other wife has mixed feelings on abortion. Raised in a traditional Catholic household (her parents still attend the Latin mass) she was not brought up to favour choice. However, dealing with an autistic child for twenty years gives one a more nuanced position. I suspect she would now take a Nelsonian view; she would not join a pro-choice lobby but would not fight such legislation.

You, of course, have no way of knowing whether or not I do good or evil to others.

Tell me something though, are you a man ? If you are a man, how is it your place to advance a strong view on a choice you won't have to make ?

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As well, Quebec has a horrible history of medical experimentation. Canada has more skeletons in its closet than just the fate of the native people. Every nation has skeletons, of course, but Canadians do tend to pose as being morally superior, especially with regard to Americans. It doesn't hurt to look at the dark side of history now and then.

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I completely agree with that though I would expand that looking at the dark side into the present... there is some seriously phu*cked up, racist, sexist, able-ist, you-name-it-ist policies in place in Canada. And yeah... a huge portion of the population just don't want to know and prefer to refer to beer commerials made by Americans for their sense of national identity. (moderators/website owner - we really need a vomiting emoticon!!)

That said, I am morally superior but not because I am Canadian. ;)

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To me ?!

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I imagine a prowling cougar cub is not in the least bit phu*cked up, racist, sexist, able-ist, you-name-it-ist in the selection of its next meal. :D

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Why should someone be well-known in this issue? Abortion or not are to do with the poor girl who is facing the choice. Not you or me. Or anyone else.

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So you have some borders then?

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actually don't understand the ****