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Old Feb 22nd 2007 | 4:35 am
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Originally Posted by YOJO
We are considering moving to Ontario. We have 2 young children. How difficult is it to find a doctor who will take you on. In the meantime how good are the facilities while you ar waiting to get on a Doctor's list?

We have been here since July and are on four doctors list waiting to be accepted by one, nothing yet!

There is however walk in clinics that you can use if you don't have a family doctor. Ours is open 10am to 10pm and you can just walk in. Never had to use them yet, but the people I have spoken to about it seem to think they offer very good service.

I don't think you would ever be without medical services, it just not as clear cut as in the UK, where pretty much everyone has a family doctor.

As long as you know where you can go within your area if you ever need them, then you should be ok.
 
Old Feb 22nd 2007 | 5:23 am
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Call an ambulance, no?
HA-HA. Just make sure you don't fall asleep in the ambulance, "tired member"
 
Old Feb 22nd 2007 | 5:33 am
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Originally Posted by YOJO
HA-HA. Just make sure you don't fall asleep in the ambulance, "tired member"
I wasn't planning to drive the ambulance. Seriously, I don't understand the concern with having a doctor; the walk in clinic is a perfectly viable model for healthcare delivery and is, arguably, better for the patient than having a GP. Why do you particularly want to have a doctor?
 
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I wasn't planning to drive the ambulance. Seriously, I don't understand the concern with having a doctor; the walk in clinic is a perfectly viable model for healthcare delivery and is, arguably, better for the patient than having a GP. Why do you particularly want to have a doctor?
I agree, suppose you get stuck with a doctor you dont like - or one who is incompetent??
 
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Originally Posted by batty-x-ray
I agree, suppose you get stuck with a doctor you dont like - or one who is incompetent??
Then you ditch them for the urgent care / telehealth line / emerg department / health unit (all of whom you tell you dont have a family doctor) until you manage to find one who is not an arse.

Personal experience. Dont ask.

However at the walk in clinic you have no way of knowing if the doc is any good, and more importantly they have no record of any of your history. OK if you have the flu, not so good if you have the early minor symptoms of some condition your dad died of. At least with a family doctor its the devil you know and you have the option to bypass them if there is a problem.

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Old Feb 22nd 2007 | 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by batty-x-ray
I agree, suppose you get stuck with a doctor you dont like - or one who is incompetent??
The worst might be a doctor you do like who seems competent but isn't.

What I'd like is to find something like the vet we use. It's a group place so there's no guarantee of seeing the same vet each time but they all seem knowledgable and they're quite willing to disagree with each other. Many heads better than one and all that. The nearest equivalent for people is the walk in clinic.
 
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Last summer we heard that there is a big shortage of doctors in Ontario. Reading all the posts seems to bear this out.

To see our doctor we have to wait about 5-6 days for an appointment, unless we call at 8 a.m. and say we want an emergency appointment to get the same day. Now, I have'nt seen him in a few years so I don't know if that is still the case, I'll find out in a few months when I phone for an appt.

We are not that thrilled with him but have to stick with it since getting signed up with another one is impossible in the Cobourg area.

Two years ago, 2 new doctors moved to the area and advertised in the local paper they would be taking on new patients and you had to apply by a certain date. They had over a 1000 people apply, most of them from Oshawa, Whitby and Pickering areas who had moved east and could not get a doctor, so when they needed to go, they had to drive down and see the one they had.

As I far as I know, to see a Specialist when referred by your doctor you can wait 6-8 weeks or more for an appointment. Hmm!

How does that compare to UK?
 
Old Feb 22nd 2007 | 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by dbd33
The worst might be a doctor you do like who seems competent but isn't.

What I'd like is to find something like the vet we use. It's a group place so there's no guarantee of seeing the same vet each time but they all seem knowledgable and they're quite willing to disagree with each other. Many heads better than one and all that. The nearest equivalent for people is the walk in clinic.
I have heard, although I don't know if it's true, that vets are qualified to operate on any animal, including humans. I've also heard that it's harder to qualify as a vet than as a doctor. In principle, this makes vets sound like a safe bet. I have, however, seen some Herriott stuff on TV. I don't think I want my tonsils examined quite like that. Or even remotely like that.
 
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The worst might be a doctor you do like who seems competent but isn't.

What I'd like is to find something like the vet we use. It's a group place so there's no guarantee of seeing the same vet each time but they all seem knowledgable and they're quite willing to disagree with each other. Many heads better than one and all that. The nearest equivalent for people is the walk in clinic.
I used to work with a radiologist who said most are happier to have an incompetent doctor who they have faith in than a good doctor they dont have faith in.

I have often thought it might be better to go to the vets. Especially for the compliments you get. A vet says nice things about their patient, such as how pretty she is, what a lovely coat, what a handsome animal. They dont mind if halfway through the examination you jump off the table and have a good old nose around the office. They dont mind if you cant swallow your meds and they give you a cuddle before you leave.
 
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Originally Posted by iaink
Then you ditch them for the urgent care / telehealth line / emerg department / health unit (all of whom you tell you dont have a family doctor) until you manage to find one who is not an arse.

Personal experience. Dont ask.

However at the walk in clinic you have no way of knowing if the doc is any good, and more importantly they have no record of any of your history. OK if you have the flu, not so good if you have the early minor symptoms of some condition your dad died of. At least with a family doctor its the devil you know and you have the option to bypass them if there is a problem OK if you have the flu, not so good if you have the early minor symptoms of some condition your dad died of. At least with a family doctor its the devil you know and you have the option to bypass them if there is a problem.
once they set up the electronic health record here that will be a thing of the past. trouble is canada is way behind on eth EHR so it will be a few more years yet

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Old Feb 23rd 2007 | 12:41 am
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
I have heard, although I don't know if it's true, that vets are qualified to operate on any animal, including humans. I've also heard that it's harder to qualify as a vet than as a doctor. In principle, this makes vets sound like a safe bet. I have, however, seen some Herriott stuff on TV. I don't think I want my tonsils examined quite like that. Or even remotely like that.
Certainly true about the degree of difficulty in qualifying as a vet due to that fact that they have to know the physiology of many creatures as opposed to just one - us.

I wouldn't like to rely on my vet to examine me though. I've seen where that thermometer goes...and how often.
 
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Originally Posted by Pamela 1

We are not that thrilled with him but have to stick with it since getting signed up with another one is impossible in the Cobourg area.
Hearndern or something like that? Hes a liability. Better of going to the urgent care. Seriously.

FWIW there is a doctor in Brighton taking patients whos OK. Its not that far to drive.
 
Old Feb 23rd 2007 | 2:30 am
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[QUOTE=Pamela 1;4443353]Last summer we heard that there is a big shortage of doctors in Ontario. Reading all the posts seems to bear this out.

Reading of the shortages of doctors in Ontario, does anyone know if BC seems to have the same problem?
 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
The worst might be a doctor you do like who seems competent but isn't.

What I'd like is to find something like the vet we use. It's a group place so there's no guarantee of seeing the same vet each time but they all seem knowledgable and they're quite willing to disagree with each other. Many heads better than one and all that. The nearest equivalent for people is the walk in clinic.
The walk-in clinics sound a good option. Here in Wales we have a large Health Centre where we can nearly always get an appointment the same day though not necessary with the same doctor. Many people have private health care via a work, 'Perk.' This way you can see a specialist within a week. Under the NHS the waiting list could easily be months.
 

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