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Former Lancastrian Apr 9th 2013 3:33 am

Come on Porter Airlines.
 
I hope this is the announcement Porter Airlines are making tomorrow
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...ombardier.html

Im all for it more competition and more choice if they buy these jets however they will have some negotiating to do as they wont be able to use the Billy Bishop airport.
Ive never flown them but have heard more positive than negative.
Be interesting to see how in particular Air Canada reacts to this as opposed to Westjet as AC got into a pissing match with them when they first started up.
Im not saying it will mean cheaper air fares but if they do drop then I wont be complaining.

Zoe Bell Apr 9th 2013 4:40 am

Re: Come on Porter Airlines.
 
saw a thread about this on AvCanada boards.

I have a love/hate relationship wiht Porter.
they are awesome to fly with , great from a passengers point of view and the Island airport is great for the economy

As a Private pilot ( to be!) I'm not thrilled witht he way they are slowly squeezing General Aviation out of CYTZ. One flight school has lready fallen victim to the squeeze, I'm not sure how much longer the other can fight them off.

I'm not sure that Jets out of the island is such a good idea either. Don't get me wrong I'm very pro airport but there are a lot of people who will use this as a reason to attempt to take the Island airport back to the ghost town days.

Having expreienced bad wake tubulence behind a Q400 , I'm not sure I'd like to expreince it from a heavier jet!

Have been tryng to find the exact rules behind operating JEts from CYTZ , I was under impression , not allowed , but can't find if this is a bylaw , gentlemens agreement or what?

Would also be interested in seeing the takeoff poerformance figures for those new jets. Porter and Skyservice already push it to the limits with the current fleet at CYTZ

ArthurBrit Apr 9th 2013 4:45 am

Re: Come on Porter Airlines.
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 10649450)
saw a thread about this on AvCanada boards.

I have a love/hate relationship wiht Porter.
they are awesome to fly with , great from a passengers point of view and the Island airport is great for the economy

As a Private pilot ( to be!) I'm not thrilled witht he way they are slowly squeezing General Aviation out of CYTZ. One flight school has lready fallen victim to the squeeze, I'm not sure how much longer the other can fight them off.

I'm not sure that Jets out of the island is such a good idea either. Don't get me wrong I'm very pro airport but there are a lot of people who will use this as a reason to attempt to take the Island airport back to the ghost town days.

Having expreienced bad wake tubulence behind a Q400 , I'm not sure I'd like to expreince it from a heavier jet!

Would also be interested in seeing the takeoff poerformance figures for those new jets. Porter and Skyservice already push it to the limits with the current fleet at CYTZ

From what I understand they will not be using them on the island as the runway is too small and unless they get approval they can't expand it.

They will end up flying out of pearson.

I'm not sure the on the figures exactly but if my memory serves me correct in good weather at full weight capacity they require a runway of +4,000ft and the largest on the island is 3,988ft.

I guess we will learn more in the upcoming months!

Edited: I've not been on AvCanada for a while are the forums still busy?

Zoe Bell Apr 9th 2013 5:21 am

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AvCanada is full of small people with big egos and is possibly one of the most hostile places on the planet if you are a student pilot

Former Lancastrian Apr 9th 2013 5:31 am

Re: Come on Porter Airlines.
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 10649567)
AvCanada is full of small people with big egos and is possibly one of the most hostile places on the planet if you are a student pilot

Bit like BE if you are a newbie then and asking about BMWs :lol:

Tangram Apr 9th 2013 5:36 am

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I thought "Come on Porter Airlines" was some new trendy sexually open marketing campaign.

Former Lancastrian Apr 9th 2013 5:44 am

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Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 10649607)
I thought "Come on Porter Airlines" was some new trendy sexually open marketing campaign.

Made you look though :lol:

Zoe Bell Apr 9th 2013 6:06 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 10649599)
Bit like BE if you are a newbie then and asking about BMWs :lol:

Worse :thumbdown:

ArthurBrit Apr 9th 2013 6:11 am

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Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 10649567)
AvCanada is full of small people with big egos and is possibly one of the most hostile places on the planet if you are a student pilot

Hasn't changed then!

I remember a few good posters but they were few and far between.

Zoe Bell Apr 9th 2013 6:12 am

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Bugs me a little because I'm sure there is some great advice kicking around somewhere but every thread seems to degenerate into " everyone but me is wrong and a danger to mankind and shouldn't be let anywhere near an areoplane"

ArthurBrit Apr 9th 2013 6:40 am

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Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 10649691)
Bugs me a little because I'm sure there is some great advice kicking around somewhere but every thread seems to degenerate into " everyone but me is wrong and a danger to mankind and shouldn't be let anywhere near an areoplane"

Well a lot of it stems from the wording within the flight manuals like the AIM and our own interpretation of what exactly it says.

I would always advise to go see the senior members of your flight school and not the trainers themselves. The more experienced pilots generally have the best practical knowledge of what is truly meant in them.

But you're right people will argue profusely that they are right and other peoples definition is wrong even if they have no other proof, or practical evidence to back it up!

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 9th 2013 6:56 am

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I wont complain if they can make a go of it, we need some more competition.

Zoe Bell Apr 9th 2013 6:57 am

Re: Come on Porter Airlines.
 
Oh I can accept that for interpreting the laws and regs and stuff but when it comes down to flying technique, that kind of stuff is a little harder to swallow.

ArthurBrit Apr 9th 2013 7:11 am

Re: Come on Porter Airlines.
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 10649792)
Oh I can accept that for interpreting the laws and regs and stuff but when it comes down to flying technique, that kind of stuff is a little harder to swallow.

What stage are you at? are you a student or RPL? I'm guessing you are working towards PPL/CPL?

The truth is behind the keyboard you have no idea who these people are how long they've been flying and whether they're good pilots or not. Stick to the people you know in real life that way at least you have an idea on their character!

It's always amusing when there's about 6 people chiming in that all the other pilots are wrong and their own technique is the only correct one!

Zoe Bell Apr 9th 2013 8:05 am

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Ppl student
I know you are right but there are other boards who are a lot kinder to us newbies


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