just a quick question to see if anyone has any ideas on the nearest thing to b&h or even marlboro lights in ottawa.

failing that, any sites that sell english/european ciggies that are worth dabbling with.

cheers in advance

Hi

Both are available, but B.& H. maybe made in Canada and will taste different, and Marlboro still tastes like s**t.

PMM

And don't forget more and more provinces are going smoke free in public places, including bars, restaurants etc. (thank goodness - she says!!!)

thanks for the info, although both the b&h & the marlboro's here are shite. there doesn't appear to be anything that looks remotely pallatable and similar to uk b&h, marlboro lights or whatever.

as regards smoking in bars etc., you are still able to smoke outside, well you can in downtown ottawa.

need to get some shipped over from home

either that or give up - possibly not such a bad thing.

cheers

If the cancer doesn't get you, the cold will.
Minus 40 on those patios in winter!

will have to cross that bridge when i come to it.
quite pleasant right now though...

although might not be here that long.

can't handle paying 75p for a penguin and nearly 3 quid for dusty old packet of chocolate hobnobs.
that is not on.

and a big thank you to sunderland fc for doing us a favour last weekend...

B&H 100s they are the nearest thing to B&H that we get back home
and its true -40 in the winter think you will not be thinking about a quick fag :scared:

It's worth noting that Marlboro are not legally sold in Canada, the trademark belongs to a different company up here. It gladdens my heart that in twenty-five years I have never had difficulty in buying a carton a week; they are smuggled on a truly massive scale. Marlboro Lights should be readily available in Ottawa as a common source is US government personnel selling their allowance and there must be no end of diplomats and whatnot there.

You'll notice that the price varies in reaction to changes in the tax on legally available cigarettes, each time the price of legal cigarettes rises the price of Marlboro falls as more are smuggled. There was a happy period when there were gun boat wars on the St. Lawrence and Marlboro cost less in Toronto than in North Carolina. If all else fails cigarettes are cheap on reservations and there are a couple reasonably near to Ottawa.

[QUOTE=bombayshuffle]will have to cross that bridge when i come to it.

Not a bad strategy. You've only got to cross the Ottawa River and you're in Quebec, where smoking is still compulsory.

I've seen US-made (and some French) cigs in the shops, but not often. And they're expensive. If you see someone with a pack of UK or US smokes, they are most probably duty-free or in the case of US brands, smuggled.

One of the reasons you don't see many foreign ciggies in Canada is that the ones made here taste different and people are used to that taste. Cigarettes made in the US and many other parts of the world usually include a blend of tobaccos, as well as a variety of flavourings. Cigarettes made in Canada rely almost exclusively on a single type of Virginia grown in Ontario. Very few chemicals are added. That's why they all taste so similar. Most people would have a job telling a Players from a Du Maurier or local B&H. In some cases they would be wrong if the said that they could detect a difference. One company, Imperial Tobacco Canada (effectively controlled by BAT), has about 70% of the market and owns most of the major brands (Players, Du Maurier, Peter Jackson, Matinee etc). Du Maurier Light and Matinee are the same cigarette in a different packet. I suspect the same to be true of Peter Jackson. The only difference I noticed when I switched to PJs is that they are cheaper.

Taste alone would not account for the general absence of US smokes up here. PM has been tailoring its Marlboros to local preferences for years.
There is, however, a Canadian-owned Marlboro brand. You'd have to look pretty hard on the shelf to see a packet, though. I think the brand's owner just keeps it as a spoiler.

I used to smoke when I arrived in canada...

One canadian winter and the choice of quiting or the patio at -30deg C

I'd quit by January

Toronto's back to allowing smoking in bars. That is, I believe there's still a law against it but it's widely flouted. Some places ask that you join a "private club" but most don't bother.

Bloody lightweight! When it gets cold, all you have to do is buy shorter cigarettes. Why do you think they make them?

[QUOTE=Souvenir] I don't geddit....how can you 'see' ciggies in any shops? Here in Sask (as I've only just discovered) the display's are covered by little curtains so you can't actually see either what they sell or how much they are. Is this something peculiar to Sask? And BTW how much do ciggies cost in Canada and how much in the UK for say Marlboro?? Just curious

As far as only a passing interest in fag news, I think here they are becoming the same as adult mags not fit u18's eyes.

Aritcle http://winnipeg.cbc.ca/regional/serv...g-law-20050119

Supreme Court OKs ban on tobacco displays

WINNIPEG – Anti-smoking lobbyists in Winnipeg are hailing today's decision by the Supreme Court that could limit tobacco displays in stores.

The case before the high court centred on Saskatchewan's law to restrict the display of tobacco products to people under age 18 – essentially forcing cigarettes to be hidden from view in retail locations.

Marlboro are $35 a carton in Toronto, that is, they're slightly cheaper on the street than at the duty free shop in Port Huron. If there's a ban on cigarette displays in Ontario it's not enforcd.