I meant HRDC, HRM=Human Resource. Or their "job centre"

Honestly I'm bored of all this Canadian immigration farce. However I might try spamming my CV around again, with some blurb about PNP or Sponsorship, and if they can't find a "Canadian" gah

Maybe when I'm 85 they let me in.

These people heard of MIS right? Do they process cough lol, all the applications by hand?

Do you really think that you will be treated with ANY respect coming on this forum and behaving like you are? Ever heard of the expression "troll"? That is what I think you are but I will humor you.

Are you aware how many applicants there is per year and how long the backlog is? Do you consider yourself being some VIP who deserve special treatment and should be fast tracked through the system for no apparent reason than just being a troll?

There are roughly 250.000 visas issued per year. Those are not entirely dedicated to SW application or whatever class you have applied under.

There are far more applicants than visas every year. The backlog is not likely to shrink, if anything it will increase.

Yes, it is frustrating but at the same time maybe it is a good thing that this is how it is done as it will weed out those who doesn't have the heart, the guts, the patience and determination to go ahead.

If you are so desperate to move away from where you are and do it fast, why not move across the street or to the other end of town or to another city.

Just don't expect to come on here with that attitude of yours and expect people here to welcome you with open arms. Park the attitude outside the door and start acting like an adult with manners.

My impression so far is that bart is genuinely frustrated, fed up with the bureacracy and slow pace, and this shows in his posts. I do not however consider he has an attitude. Rather, he is letting off stream, methinks there is nothing wrong with that. With a bit of encouragement he might be about to get the help and answers he is looking for.

The key is in the title he chose viz. chicken and egg. That says it all!

Could be. But in that case - say that! The internet has no facial expressions. It is wide open for misinterpretations as communications is 50% words and 50% body language. Hence the invention of smileys also known as emoticons.

An IT professional with internet experience should know that.

Being frustrated and having a rant isn't a problem but at least then say so. So far I have not seen any hint of this being a rant. To me it comes across as someone with a huge chip on the shoulder and carrying a large amount of attitude.

And with that, my rant is over. I'm off to get some work done as I have quotes to sort, sites to do, news letters write and a business plan to build to be used during my canadian reccie trip.

If you are so "bored of all this Canadian immigration farce" then perhaps a move there is not for you

Do you honestly think anything worth having in this life is not worth fighting for?

Or perhaps you think it should it just be handed to you on a plate

Some of us would/will/have jumped through hoops to get a move to Canada

I just wanted to add my reflections.

One is this, we all run the risk of thinking that every wall we encounter in a relocation, every irritating hurdle, everything that is essentially *not how we do it in the UK* is a major knicker bunching moment. On the one hand we can crave being somewhere new and want to embrace all those great things we feel we dont have in our original life. On the other hand we can be naturally scathing of anything unfamiliar and even consider others and their ways to be frankly stupid, beneath us.

After that initial drawn out process of Immigration, whichever means we all approach it, you have to know that the start to the new, much anticipated life isnt without frustrations. I know, I know - stating the obvious right? But you do need to think if this process and its hurdles isnt worth getting on board with, then how much do you want the outcome? There are 1000's of members here and we all have different stories and plans of how we got here and are coming - this isnt insurmountable and you arent the only person feeling frustrated. But there is a way................do you have the patience and the interest to find that way has to be the question.

But if you think employers and Immigration staff are somewhat unhelpful or obstructive, then I dont expect that all the other Canadian surprises will be much fun either. There are many people who come here and actively choose not to go forward with emigrating to Canada when they hear that most people get 3 weeks annual leave a year. Now to someone like me, that is a compromise I merrily make for living here and all that Canada offers me and my family. But there are so many things that are hard as a new immigrant, the huge cost of car insurance, the troubles trying to get a credit card.....the list goes on and on, and if your first reaction is that the insurers and the banks are all stupid, you wont enjoy settling into Canada.

Just my 10c. I think there is a way to get you into Canada and it is taking far more time and getting much more prepared when approaching employers. A CV for starters is not going to impress. Ring them, visit if you can, bombard them and sell yourself. Dont just spam them with a CV then get peeved that they dont react well. Canada works very differently and you need to be far more personal.

Good luck, hope whatever you choose works out well for you.

Thank you for submitting your resume to H*** Specialist Recruitment. Unfortunately at this time we are only accepting applications from candidates that are authorized to work in Canada. Are you authorized to work in Canada? If so, when will you be moving to Canada and to which city?

Chicken egg.

Most definately chicken and egg. But I wonder if you are going to the right people, a Recruitment Agency will need to present available people to their clients I guess. We had most luck with Monster and Workopolis and we struggled to get HRs to ever deal with us direct, but occaissionally we were passed on to real people who looked at the Resume and a dialogue started - thats the only way, Canadians dont seem to chatty via email let me tell you!

And have you got a Resume? You mentioned a CV, those dont even get looked at in my experience, you need a US/Canada style resume - lots on that on wiki.

Dont give up, just keep plugging away.

Hi,

Thanks I checked their Resume format and it doesn't seem any different to mine really, apart from it has Canadian schools / Uni's etc? I will try Monster, although that is where I am currently looking

http://www.sauder.ubc.ca/AM/Template...CONTENTID=2996

Bart, you are just pi$$ing around. You're a Whinging Pom or a troll or something. I'm not sure what you are. One thing you are not is a person who is serious about getting a job in Canada and fast-tracking his entry to this country. I'm going to give you one last link before I put you on my ignore list:

Job Hunting Success Stories

That was quick.

Just call me quick draw mcgraw

Remind me not to ever accept a "pistols at dawn" challenge.