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Old Oct 29th 2009, 11:28 am
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"Canada's 'missing province' grows as ex-pats opt out.

More Canadians than ever before have moved out of the country, according to a new report that says 2.8 million live permanently overseas.

The trend is being fuelled by naturalized Canadians who are three times more likely to leave the country than people born here. Over a 30-year period, the study estimates that at least 27 per cent of these immigrants who obtain Canadian citizenship would move away."

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"Canada's 'missing province' grows as ex-pats opt out.

More Canadians than ever before have moved out of the country, according to a new report that says 2.8 million live permanently overseas.

The trend is being fuelled by naturalized Canadians who are three times more likely to leave the country than people born here. Over a 30-year period, the study estimates that at least 27 per cent of these immigrants who obtain Canadian citizenship would move away."

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I should imagine its much the same anywhere, especially the UK.
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Old Oct 29th 2009, 8:51 pm
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I should imagine its much the same anywhere, especially the UK.
Possibly, but there are some very interesting comments on the website (reportedly from Canadian born people now living overseas). Here's one:

"Hello Pupazzo, your experience is similiar to mine. The longer I was away from Canada getting international experience, and picking-up foreign languages, the less interest any employers in Canada at hiring me.

Now I have passed that fork in the road. I will return to Canada, but only as self-employed and semi-retired. I have given up the idea that I can force a square peg back into a round hole.

Not to be patronizing, but many managers are very provincial. They do not have international experience or speak second or third languages, and, hey, they're management, so it must not be very important."


Sounds very familiar doesn't it????
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I should imagine its much the same anywhere, especially the UK.
Every nationality has it's diaspora. I'd say it was fairly normal - though international experience does seem to be a negative in north america generally (this is anecdotal)
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Hmm, People that have already left one country turn out to be less bothered about leaving Canada than people who haven't...


...It's hardly a surprise, is it? People come here for job opportunities, or for the adventure, decide citizenship is good to have (Plan B etc), and then later on a new opportunity comes up, or they decide not to stay here in retirement cos its too damned cold or whatever and up sticks again. Its not rocket surgery.

Is it a slow news day or something?
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...It's hardly a surprise, is it? People come here for job opportunities, or for the adventure, decide citizenship is good to have (Plan B etc), and then later on a new opportunity comes up, or they decide not to stay here in retirement cos its too damned cold or whatever and up sticks again. Its not rocket surgery.

Is it a slow news day or something?
Realy slow...

most of the candians I know don't properly retire here but snow bird down south

So anybody with the option to go elsewhere , why the surprise ???
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Every nationality has it's diaspora. I'd say it was fairly normal - though international experience does seem to be a negative in north america generally (this is anecdotal)
They say travel broads the mind, except with North Americans, where it just broadens the arse.
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...It's hardly a surprise, is it? People come here for job opportunities, or for the adventure, decide citizenship is good to have (Plan B etc), and then later on a new opportunity comes up, or they decide not to stay here in retirement cos its too damned cold or whatever and up sticks again. Its not rocket surgery.
...do rocket surgeons tend to stay here, or do they go where the work is?
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...do rocket surgeons tend to stay here, or do they go where the work is?
I believe they do. Brain scientists move very smartly though.
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I believe they do. Brain scientists move very smartly though.
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"Canada's 'missing province' grows as ex-pats opt out.

More Canadians than ever before have moved out of the country, according to a new report that says 2.8 million live permanently overseas.

The trend is being fuelled by naturalized Canadians who are three times more likely to leave the country than people born here. Over a 30-year period, the study estimates that at least 27 per cent of these immigrants who obtain Canadian citizenship would move away."

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This is as old as history itself. Immigrants have been going home ever since people started emigrating. Most immigrants like where they come from but move for economic reasons. Most countries in the world are quite nice as long as you don't have to work there. They move, make money, retire, go home.

I know a bunch of Hong Kong'ers who went back after 1997 because they figured it was easier to make money in HK than Canada. I've also know Indians who went home again after discovering that working in a Toronto call-centre isn't a way to live life. There have even been Somalis who go home. Home is where the heart is.
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This is as old as history itself. Immigrants have been going home ever since people started emigrating. Most immigrants like where they come from but move for economic reasons. Most countries in the world are quite nice as long as you don't have to work there. They move, make money, retire, go home.

I know a bunch of Hong Kong'ers who went back after 1997 because they figured it was easier to make money in HK than Canada. I've also know Indians who went home again after discovering that working in a Toronto call-centre isn't a way to live life. There have even been Somalis who go home. Home is where the heart is.
How profound. Did you read that somewhere?
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This is as old as history itself. Immigrants have been going home ever since people started emigrating. Most immigrants like where they come from but move for economic reasons. Most countries in the world are quite nice as long as you don't have to work there. They move, make money, retire, go home.

I know a bunch of Hong Kong'ers who went back after 1997 because they figured it was easier to make money in HK than Canada. I've also know Indians who went home again after discovering that working in a Toronto call-centre isn't a way to live life. There have even been Somalis who go home. Home is where the heart is.
Is Canada registered as a 3, 4 or 5 star hotel?
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Is Canada registered as a 3, 4 or 5 star hotel?
Like so much else, it's a provincial matter.
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Like so much else, it's a provincial matter.
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