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gedge Apr 5th 2006 2:09 pm

Re: Canada v Australia
 
Does anyone know the half time score? Or has the match been abandoned due to IT incompatibility?

JAJ Apr 5th 2006 2:30 pm

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by The Escapea
It is the IT equivalent of being a Chartered Engineer, Chartered Scientist etc., so a CITP has chartered status. Are you a member of the British Computer Society? They are the body who award such a chartered status: [I]"BCS chartered status, which will be available to those who can meet strict entry criteria - a true gold standard; it will recognise a broad range of academic qualifications with industry experience also taken into account.


I thought you could get Chartered Engineer (CEng) status through the BCS also, as it's part of the Engineering Council.

Rich_007 Apr 5th 2006 2:47 pm

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by smurtaza
Please note that Canada's judicial system is still way behind to that of Australia.

Interesting comment...please justify, I'm totally intrigued. :confused:

Rich.

1066 Apr 5th 2006 9:00 pm

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by Rich_007
Interesting comment...please justify, I'm totally intrigued. :confused:

Rich.

He's one of the dingo people ... I doubt if you'll get much sense out of him ... ;)

Buchan6 Apr 5th 2006 10:39 pm

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
When I say that our suburb of Toronto, the beach, is like America 25 years ago I'm being deliberately nice. The whole, kick the kids out in the morning expect them back at night, way of life has gone in most big cities. That aspect of life being a bit backward in Canada is, in fact, rather nice.

This "backwardness" is one of the key reasons we're moving to Canada. We want our children to have a longer and freer childhood that they would have if we stayed in the UK.

dbd33 Apr 6th 2006 12:30 am

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by Buchan6
This "backwardness" is one of the key reasons we're moving to Canada. We want our children to have a longer and freer childhood that they would have if we stayed in the UK.

I can certainly see that. I like it that our street is always full of kids playing road hockey and skateboarding.

Souvenir Apr 6th 2006 1:08 am

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
I can certainly see that. I like it that our street is always full of kids playing road hockey and skateboarding.

Your view on that might be a little different if you had a garage crammed to overflowing with various home-built ramps, half-pipes and other pieces of skateboarding engineering.

dbd33 Apr 6th 2006 1:29 am

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir
Your view on that might be a little different if you had a garage crammed to overflowing with various home-built ramps, half-pipes and other pieces of skateboarding engineering.

I may have. It's very difficult to see what's behind the wall of boat related stuff and outdoor furniture. Come the spring we'll see what lurks in there.

The Escapea Apr 6th 2006 1:51 am

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by JAJ
I thought you could get Chartered Engineer (CEng) status through the BCS also, as it's part of the Engineering Council.

You're right JAJ - the BCS can award CITP, CEng and CSci (chartered scientist).

As for the earlier comments regarding IT, I think it's exactly attitudes like that which have led the BCS to introduce the chartered status - to actually enable people to realise that IT is a profession, and to move away from the bad old days when anyone who fancied jumped on the bandwagon and called themselves an 'IT Consultant', without necessarily having any skills or experience. As for the techy side, that is just one of many areas of IT - what about all the business analysts and project managers?

Buchan6 Apr 6th 2006 2:05 am

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
I can certainly see that. I like it that our street is always full of kids playing road hockey and skateboarding.

:D Thats reminded ,me of the Wayne & Garth road hockey scene in Waynes World "Game On" !!!

dbd33 Apr 6th 2006 2:44 am

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by The Escapea
to actually enable people to realise that IT is a profession

but it's not. A profession is unionised and regulated by the union, the BMA, the Law Society and so on, the BCS might like to be in that position but it isn't. Professions are necessarily localised, a doctor in the UK isn't a doctor in Canada, that's not the case with computer people, they're highly mobile, physically and virtually (I'm working in Milton Keynes and Cincinnati right now)and so cannot ever be constricted into being a profession.

I don't think computing is even really a trade, because the skills are ephemeral and style matters more than substance, but that's a separate argument.

dbd33 Apr 6th 2006 2:45 am

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by Buchan6
:D Thats reminded ,me of the Wayne & Garth road hockey scene in Waynes World "Game On" !!!

I'm afraid popular culture has passed me by, I've never seen Wayne's World, I suppose though that they shout "CAR!" a lot.

flashman Apr 6th 2006 3:09 am

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by Buchan6
This "backwardness" is one of the key reasons we're moving to Canada. We want our children to have a longer and freer childhood that they would have if we stayed in the UK.

"Backwardness" may be the wrong term. Canada was exposed to a similar society to the UK twenty years ago especially with the influence of our neighbour to the south and has since moved on.

dbd33 Apr 6th 2006 3:15 am

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by flashman
"Backwardness" may be the wrong term. Canada was exposed to a similar society to the UK twenty years ago especially with the influence of our neighbour to the south and has since moved on.

Eh?

Please explain.

flashman Apr 6th 2006 5:19 am

Re: Canada v Australia
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
Eh?

Please explain.


Both Canada and the UK are influenced by the USA. Canada because we have a shared history and are neighbours. The UK because of the more recent Reagan/Thatcher, Blair/Clinton/Bush connection.

Canada seems to have accepted the best such as the market driven consumer lifestyle while rejecting the worst such as the superficialilty and propensity for violence and crime.

The UK seems to have accepted it all hence ASBO's, YOBS etc.

Then if this means the UK society is advanced then I'm quite happy to be in backward Canada.


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