Canada
#46
Re: Canada
Although i'm curious how the Fish & Chips are in Moncton.
Which is about as far as I had to go when I was living in Totterdown as the local chippies were bloody awful.
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You started comparing Moncton and Bath, so what's your point? I just said that you might as well compare Bristol to Ottawa then. Fact is that you can't go by population, size etc. Some places are always more desirable than others. I could also start saying that you can get a 4 bed detached house in the capital of Northern Ireland for the same price as you paid in Moncton, so again no comparison.
#50
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Similar size population. Seems a reasonable comparison to make when comparing cities. Some ignorant people see low prices and talk about rural living, living out in the sticks and all the rest of the nonsense, so I was just saying how where I live is a city the size of Bath.
Why? One of many cities in the UK and the nation's capital. Yes, comparison is worth it because comparison shows them to be completely different.
Well of course some places can be more desirable than others. But there are certain benefits from city living and they tend to show themselves when living in a city.
Some people have this weird idea that low prices mean nobody wants to live there. That's what you said and it's not true.
I'm sure you could. I doubt it would compare favourably in other cities like Vancouver or Toronto. But that's the point which you seem to be missing. There are other cities and they are perfectly decent places to live with the benefits of city living. And there are many perfectly good houses here - detached - in nice areas, for a whole lot less.
I just said that you might as well compare Bristol to Ottawa then.
Fact is that you can't go by population, size etc. Some places are always more desirable than others.
Some people have this weird idea that low prices mean nobody wants to live there. That's what you said and it's not true.
I could also start saying that you can get a 4 bed detached house in the capital of Northern Ireland for the same price as you paid in Moncton, so again no comparison.
#51
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Similar size population. Seems a reasonable comparison to make when comparing cities. Some ignorant people see low prices and talk about rural living, living out in the sticks and all the rest of the nonsense, so I was just saying how where I live is a city the size of Bath.
Why? One of many cities in the UK and the nation's capital. Yes, comparison is worth it because comparison shows them to be completely different.
Why? One of many cities in the UK and the nation's capital. Yes, comparison is worth it because comparison shows them to be completely different.
If you're saying that you can't compare Ottawa with Bristol because Ottawa is Canada's capital, then you also can't compare Bath with Moncton IMO, because Bath is a world famous, very desirable and beautiful city, hence house prices are driven by that rather than just amenities.
Bottom line is that you can get really good house prices in both the UK and Canada, but it depends on the area.
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Similar size population. Seems a reasonable comparison to make when comparing cities. Some ignorant people see low prices and talk about rural living, living out in the sticks and all the rest of the nonsense, so I was just saying how where I live is a city the size of Bath. Why? One of many cities in the UK and the nation's capital. Yes, comparison is worth it because comparison shows them to be completely different. Well of course some places can be more desirable than others. But there are certain benefits from city living and they tend to show themselves when living in a city. Some people have this weird idea that low prices mean nobody wants to live there. That's what you said and it's not true. I'm sure you could. I doubt it would compare favourably in other cities like Vancouver or Toronto. But that's the point which you seem to be missing. There are other cities and they are perfectly decent places to live with the benefits of city living. And there are many perfectly good houses here - detached - in nice areas, for a whole lot less.
#53
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I liken the population of Bath and Moncton. A comparison of London and Bristol shows the differences
If you're saying that you can't compare Ottawa with Bristol because Ottawa is Canada's capital, then you also can't compare Bath with Moncton IMO, because Bath is a world famous, very desirable and beautiful city, hence house prices are driven by that rather than just amenities.
Bath also has a major street homeless problem with many beggars. (or it did when I was last there)
Bottom line is that you can get really good house prices in both the UK and Canada, but it depends on the area.
Last edited by BristolUK; Nov 19th 2015 at 5:32 pm.
#54
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However, in both countries the less desirable areas have lower prices than the more desirable ones so Country Antrim is cheaper than Kensington and Moncton is cheaper than High Park. It may that an "undesirable" part of Canada, such as Oshawa, isn't frightening to someone from the Short Strand but it is scary for people from Toronto.
Canada is all middle so, if you come from somewhere horrible it's a step up, if you come from somewhere fabulous, it's not.
#55
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It might very well be that cheap in Toronto is a slum area that people only live in because that's all they can afford. Just like a cheap area of London may be a dump where the only people living there do as they have little choice.
But a cheap part of Canada is still very desirable in terms of quality of housing; jobs; access to transport; hospitals; schools; universities... basically all those things that one needs to live and to live well.
It doesn't mean it's rural or isolated which seems to be the assumption on this forum.
It's still city living. It might not have a natural history museum, a national art gallery, a theatre royal...but it still has 95% of what's needed and if you can afford to live there and live well, then you do the other 5% on vacations.
#57
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You're ok in Moncton because you don't need a job but someone who does need to work would face slim pickings. Oshawa, which you mentioned upthread, is a rust belt town; the car factory closed and it got rough and cheap. Newfoundland was a cheap place to buy a house when the fisheries closed but now that there's a search for oil offshore and consequently lots of jobs, it's expensive. Fort McMurray was very expensive until recently when the jobs left.
Canada's not different from other places; if there's work property is more expensive, if there's none it's cheaper. If there's work then facilities follow, once the work goes so do the services. Cheap houses mean there's no work to be had and probably little in the way of infrastructure.
#58
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Moncton.
two hospitals, three universities, two big colleges and numerous private ones, tons of schools and two education departments to go with them, lots of federal government departments (Service Canada, statscan, immigration, Revenue Canada and more) as well as Provincial and municipal offices, a Newspaper, three television centres including CBC, a retail centre that attracts shoppers far and wide an airport a flight school with international students, major call centre operations, loads of restaurants, big hotels, a good zoo, the casino, entertainment/sport venues, several industrial parks, a fair amount of IT, big financial companies, condo/luxury apartment buildings springing up all over, already big retail centres expanding...
Cheap houses mean there's no work to be had and probably little in the way of infrastructure.
See above.
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Re: Canada
Well, not far wrong. Housing is generally cheaper in Canada than in the UK and the bad bits of Canada are generally not as rough as the bad bits of the UK (considering all of the UK against the parts of Canada where the white people live).
However, in both countries the less desirable areas have lower prices than the more desirable ones so Country Antrim is cheaper than Kensington and Moncton is cheaper than High Park. It may that an "undesirable" part of Canada, such as Oshawa, isn't frightening to someone from the Short Strand but it is scary for people from Toronto.
Canada is all middle so, if you come from somewhere horrible it's a step up, if you come from somewhere fabulous, it's not.
However, in both countries the less desirable areas have lower prices than the more desirable ones so Country Antrim is cheaper than Kensington and Moncton is cheaper than High Park. It may that an "undesirable" part of Canada, such as Oshawa, isn't frightening to someone from the Short Strand but it is scary for people from Toronto.
Canada is all middle so, if you come from somewhere horrible it's a step up, if you come from somewhere fabulous, it's not.
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Re: Canada
Well, not far wrong. Housing is generally cheaper in Canada than in the UK and the bad bits of Canada are generally not as rough as the bad bits of the UK (considering all of the UK against the parts of Canada where the white people live).
However, in both countries the less desirable areas have lower prices than the more desirable ones so Country Antrim is cheaper than Kensington and Moncton is cheaper than High Park. It may that an "undesirable" part of Canada, such as Oshawa, isn't frightening to someone from the Short Strand but it is scary for people from Toronto.
Canada is all middle so, if you come from somewhere horrible it's a step up, if you come from somewhere fabulous, it's not.
However, in both countries the less desirable areas have lower prices than the more desirable ones so Country Antrim is cheaper than Kensington and Moncton is cheaper than High Park. It may that an "undesirable" part of Canada, such as Oshawa, isn't frightening to someone from the Short Strand but it is scary for people from Toronto.
Canada is all middle so, if you come from somewhere horrible it's a step up, if you come from somewhere fabulous, it's not.