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Old Aug 18th 2015, 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa View Post
No, I've asked that this thread is got back on track, because the squabbling is of no use to anybody and frankly my patience is wearing thin. Other subjects are fine, arguing and insults are not.

I don't know why you're ignoring my request but last chance - either post on the subject only or leave this thread please.
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We have established that a UK trained nurse with a degree, will more than likely NOT be required to sit further training/modules when applying to register as a RPN? (In ontario)

But in the unlikely event of being asked to sit further training,
- Are all these courses college based?
- If so is it only specific colleges?
- How much do they cost?
- How long in duration?

That's topic related yeah?...Nursing/ NNAS registration...

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I feel / and my slight gripe is she should be a little more careful / sensitive when portraying the process to new posters/nurses looking for advice (the origins of this thread!) As I have (I hope ) made sense of, the process for a uk RN is basically = Apply to NNAS, WAIT... sit exam... Gain registration...Apply for job...Work. Simple enough really in theory.
No need for all the fearful obstacles. We all have our own to overcome.

Process for RN or LPN regardless of where they trained if outside Canada is NNAS - Provincial college of RN/LPN - see what is said as to sit exam or sit assessment -meet requirements - gain registration and look for work.

You can look for work as long as you have eligibility to sit exam as most jobs I see advertised regardless on province requires pass or eligibility to sit exam
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Hi,

I don't know as much as the others but: from what I can make out.....
Yes they are college based and modules that can be completed online
The specific colleges will be linked to the nursing board you apply to so look up the RPN board for Ontario and they should give you info under their international nurse section.
Costs I am not sure on but for RN courses I had been advised around $2000.
I can only say for the RN because that's what I've been looking into but the courses were about 3 weeks depending on what ones you need.
I have been asking the same questions as you: my fear is paying out fees for NNAS and then to the boards and then being told I need to do an unmanageable amount of courses to complete. However someone was just telling me that the chances of me getting a job offer are small because they could fill the position with a Canadian nurse? It's all a massive roundabout of confusion it seems. My best advice is email the college directly in Ontario. That's where I have got my best advice so far. Hope this has helped. Feel free to ask me any questions and if I can help with my own research I will. Sometimes people explain things in a confusing way so just say if you want some clarity
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Originally Posted by Roberto1980 View Post

But in the unlikely event of being asked to sit further training,
- Are all these courses college based?
- If so is it only specific colleges?
- How much do they cost?
- How long in duration?

That's topic related yeah?...Nursing/ NNAS registration...

Not insulting anyone... yeah lets move on ?
The link I gave previously also links to LPN courses which are 2 years in length which is the average course time but there may be a waiting list for the course plus usually prerequisites
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Will his wife need to do an LPN course or will her UK RN qualification meet the requirements of an LPN?
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Originally Posted by Roberto1980 View Post
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We have established that a UK trained nurse with a degree, will more than likely NOT be required to sit further training/modules when applying to register as a RPN? (In ontario)

But in the unlikely event of being asked to sit further training,
- Are all these courses college based?
- If so is it only specific colleges?
- How much do they cost?
- How long in duration?

That's topic related yeah?...Nursing/ NNAS registration...

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I've removed your pointless sniping yet again. Last chance.

Oh, and just FYI, as I'm a mod I can't use the ignore function like a 'normal' poster can so no, I can't just put you on ignore.

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I'm outta here.

Karma, kudos, thanks & good luck etc to all the nurses who post here with info on their experiences, whether successfully through the registration wringer, or still dealing with it.
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Originally Posted by Roberto1980 View Post
Here we go. The 'playground clique' that is BE strikes again.
Dare you say something to 'one of the regular crowd' and you're jumped on.

Yes reapply. Withdraw her current application and reapply using NNAS. Not impossible.

My point with the 'life suggestions' is, if she (and others) really want to continue working, there are ways. Even if it is tick along by taking on a lesser grade.
I think it is clear it's more tirytory's current personal circumstances that prevent her from doing so, not solely the registration process. i.e. even if she was currently free to sit the exam and register as a RPN and be legal to work, could she? Is there even posts in her small town?

I feel / and my slight gripe is she should be a little more careful / sensitive when portraying the process to new posters/nurses looking for advice (the origins of this thread!) As I have (I hope ) made sense of, the process for a uk RN is basically = Apply to NNAS, WAIT... sit exam... Gain registration...Apply for job...Work. Simple enough really in theory.
No need for all the fearful obstacles. We all have our own to overcome.

"Try and tell her what to do with her life"? No. She previously started a thread 'work ideas' - MANY people gave her suggestions, opinions + options. I am merely agreeing and highlighting what others said in that thread. (I gave a full quote previously)

This forum is merely a discussion board full of 'personalities' and opinions, you may well feel I have been patronising, well I feel others on many occasions are capable of being condescending and negative. And I'm not the only one who feels that btw.

I came on here initially to get some simple answers to some straightforward questions, I got part answers and then was told "my patience is worn thin" as if I'm a 4 year old getting told off lol

When I asked a simple question about the RPN + PSW courses/cost/location etc.
I was told basically "I'm not telling you/do your own research" .. Not exactly the helpful, friendly attitude from positive ex-pats assisting others in the need of clarification of things.
I'm surely at the end of the CNO process now and hope to receive my magical letter soon... To withdraw my application now would be madness. When I receive assessment from CNO I should skip to point no.5.

This bullet point is for RPN/LPN only via NNAS with information from their website and the CNO IEN sections. This information has been clearly given by Silverdragon, Caleo, Kasiadorian and myself but for the sake of some who don't appear able to sift and glean through paragraphs I have tried to simplify it.

1. Apply to NNAS . Two months (?) to collate essential information from third parties.
2. Application processing with NNAS starts. Their website states up to a year for assessing information given but actually no one has a time scale yet as they were only established a year ago.
3. How will they judge IEN? I don't know.
4. Apply to provincial body (CNO in my case)
5. Meet the provincial body's requirements? This bullet point is a bit sketchy as no one actually knows any outcomes yet.
5. Apply to sit RPN exam (three months deadline) "if" you are within a year of recent practice you should be able to get a temporary license to practice while waiting to sit and pass exam.
6. Sit Exam (hopefully pass)
7. Sit Jurisprudence exam (again pass exam)
8. Register with the college.
9. Find a job.

To add this is merely the nursing process. New nurses looking at this need to consider visa requirements too and that the final point of registration requires right to work in Canada either by temporary work permit or permanent residency.

I feel no need to further comment on my lifestyle choices nor have it discussed by third parties with clearly different values to myself. Thanks to all for both the on and off screen support

I think I will put together one for RN's as we understand it but for now I need to go and stop the kids from throttling each other and go buy them shoes on this hot and very humid day!!!

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<snip> anyhow I just did the assessments last April and it was very different to UK...it was for Nova Scotia board and left me deflated to say the very least...however saying that if one is certain Canada is the way forward it is all do-able...just time consuming. But there is not much we can do about it and often one needs to be very proactive which is a good skill within nursing field anyway
All the best to everyone!

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Hi,

I don't know as much as the others but: from what I can make out.....
Yes they are college based and modules that can be completed online
The specific colleges will be linked to the nursing board you apply to so look up the RPN board for Ontario and they should give you info under their international nurse section.
Costs I am not sure on but for RN courses I had been advised around $2000.
I can only say for the RN because that's what I've been looking into but the courses were about 3 weeks depending on what ones you need.
I have been asking the same questions as you: my fear is paying out fees for NNAS and then to the boards and then being told I need to do an unmanageable amount of courses to complete. However someone was just telling me that the chances of me getting a job offer are small because they could fill the position with a Canadian nurse? It's all a massive roundabout of confusion it seems. My best advice is email the college directly in Ontario. That's where I have got my best advice so far. Hope this has helped. Feel free to ask me any questions and if I can help with my own research I will. Sometimes people explain things in a confusing way so just say if you want some clarity
<yet another snip>

Same to you, if there is anything we (my wife) find out through research or her future experiences then we'll keep you updated.

Also, thanks to others who have replied in response to the question regarding RPN courses etc. <and another one>

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Thank you! Would really appreciate any news you have with your process, can keep the dream alive!!
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Will his wife need to do an LPN course or will her UK RN qualification meet the requirements of an LPN?
That will be up to the college to decide
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Ah dam I missed all the sniping at me
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I'm surely at the end of the CNO process now and hope to receive my magical letter soon... To withdraw my application now would be madness. When I receive assessment from CNO I should skip to point no.5.

This bullet point is for RPN/LPN only via NNAS with information from their website and the CNO IEN sections. This information has been clearly given by Silverdragon, Caleo, Kasiadorian and myself but for the sake of some who don't appear able to sift and glean through paragraphs I have tried to simplify it.

1. Apply to NNAS . Two months (?) to collate essential information from third parties.
2. Application processing with NNAS starts. Their website states up to a year for assessing information given but actually no one has a time scale yet as they were only established a year ago.
3. How will they judge IEN? I don't know.
4. Apply to provincial body (CNO in my case)
5. Meet the provincial body's requirements? This bullet point is a bit sketchy as no one actually knows any outcomes yet.
5. Apply to sit RPN exam (three months deadline) "if" you are within a year of recent practice you should be able to get a temporary license to practice while waiting to sit and pass exam.
6. Sit Exam (hopefully pass)
7. Sit Jurisprudence exam (again pass exam)
8. Register with the college.
9. Find a job.

To add this is merely the nursing process. New nurses looking at this need to consider visa requirements too and that the final point of registration requires right to work in Canada either by temporary work permit or permanent residency.

I feel no need to further comment on my lifestyle choices nor have it discussed by third parties with clearly different values to myself. Thanks to all for both the on and off screen support

I think I will put together one for RN's as we understand it but for now I need to go and stop the kids from throttling each other and go buy them shoes on this hot and very humid day!!!
Today I decided to look online to see if I could find any updates from applicants who have gone through NNAS. Seems like the process is not as smooth as they would like you to believe. Some RNs from US who have sat the NCLEX exam in the U.S. a were assessed as not being equivalent to RN in Canada.

Once the NNAS have assessed credentials you apply to the board of nurses - from what I read this can then take a further 20 weeks in Ontario.

People should also not assume that because they have a degree in nursing that they will automatically get the ok to write the RPN exam - this is not a given. It still depends on the course content and how your training equates. RPN here is not just a shortened RN course - and they have different competencies to meet in order to satisfy the biard of nursing. The competencies are available online on the board of nursing website (eg CNO).
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Today I decided to look online to see if I could find any updates from applicants who have gone through NNAS. Seems like the process is not as smooth as they would like you to believe. Some RNs from US who have sat the NCLEX exam in the U.S. a were assessed as not being equivalent to RN in Canada.

Once the NNAS have assessed credentials you apply to the board of nurses - from what I read this can then take a further 20 weeks in Ontario.

People should also not assume that because they have a degree in nursing that they will automatically get the ok to write the RPN exam - this is not a given. It still depends on the course content and how your training equates. RPN here is not just a shortened RN course - and they have different competencies to meet in order to satisfy the biard of nursing. The competencies are available online on the board of nursing website (eg CNO).
Mm I read some of the Allnurses website today too specifically the nursing in Canada part- it makes me sound positively happy although to be honest I knew all about the seniority/annual leave/shift allocation crap anyway!
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