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dbd33 Sep 20th 2008 10:31 am

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Jules Europe (Post 6804260)
You would be in another world too, if you were scrubbing floors and cleaning out public toilets as a job and getting paid a couple of dollars each hour for your troubles.

But lets just be thankful that you didn`t have to do it:thumbsup:.

Who says I didn't do that stuff? A bitter, bitter, memory for me was being turned down for a job delivering pizza. I could have delivered the ****ing pizza, Italian or not.

I came to Canada with nothing and six months later had nothing and a pregnant wife.

Patrick2007 Sep 20th 2008 10:33 am

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Jules Europe (Post 6803619)
Looking on another thread here it looks like they could struggle in Calgary with the wages that they are going to recieve as Bus Drivers. So it looks like they could be living like real immigrants:(

I agree i cant see the point in promoting people for jobs overseas if they are going to struggle which obviously they are:confused:

Jules Europe Sep 20th 2008 10:37 am

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 6804271)
Who says I didn't do that stuff? A bitter, bitter, memory for me was being turned down for a job delivering pizza. I could have delivered the ****ing pizza, Italian or not.

I came to Canada with nothing and six months later had nothing and a pregnant wife.

Wish they let me come to Canada and deliver pizza, I would even offer to pay for my own petrol on the little bike they give you as well.

Making a woman there pregnant..............mmmm now thats given me an idea:sneaky:

Patrick2007 Sep 20th 2008 10:41 am

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Jules Europe (Post 6804279)
Wish they let me come to Canada and deliver pizza, I would even offer to pay for my own petrol on the little bike they give you as well.

Making a woman there pregnant..............mmmm now thats given me an idea:sneaky:

Haha now theres a thought ahem......no seriously now am i reading these posts correctly,they want Bus Drivers in Canada temporary? doesnt make sense weres the Canadians?

Jules Europe Sep 20th 2008 10:43 am

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Patrick2007 (Post 6804275)
I agree i cant see the point in promoting people for jobs overseas if they are going to struggle which obviously they are:confused:

The reason is, they want the job filled at all cost and if it means bringing in somebody from overseas then so be it. If he/she struggles well...................That is the harsh reality of it all. The only thing a new immigrant can do in this case is arm himself with as much info on his/her new environment.

Jules Europe Sep 20th 2008 10:46 am

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Patrick2007 (Post 6804288)
Haha now theres a thought ahem......no seriously now am i reading these posts correctly,they want Bus Drivers in Canada temporary? doesnt make sense weres the Canadians?

This is the million dollar question innit? Is there really a shortage of suitable people in Canada or is it that Canadians just don`t want to do this type of work?

Have read of cases were certain businesses just can`t function to the max as they haven`t got the bodies!!!

Conclusion its probably a bit of both.

Patrick2007 Sep 20th 2008 10:51 am

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Jules Europe (Post 6804293)
The reason is, they want the job filled at all cost and if it means bringing in somebody from overseas then so be it. If he/she struggles well...................That is the harsh reality of it all. The only thing a new immigrant can do in this case is arm himself with as much info on his/her new environment.

Still no sense in it though the N.Z. government in the nineties done something similar got people in with there quals with PR guess what there was no jobs in their chosen field. What did they do.......stack shelves. Yes they did,Doctors scientists u name it. madness.

Jules Europe Sep 20th 2008 11:05 am

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Patrick2007 (Post 6804315)
Still no sense in it though the N.Z. government in the nineties done something similar got people in with there quals with PR guess what there was no jobs in their chosen field. What did they do.......stack shelves. Yes they did,Doctors scientists u name it. madness.

You will find that this in the past has been a typical procedure in countries like Canada and NZ etc, Because these countries have looked for what they describe as suitable immigrants, meaning they want qualified people such as Doctors, Engineers or even just people with university degrees to go there but often the work they do is not there for them, or when it is there well their quals are not recognized. This has often been the case for people from less developed countries. In effect they want highly qualified people to stack shelves, drive taxis etc.

The idea now in Canada is to change all this and make recognition of these Quals accessible and to match people with the current job demands.

montreal mike Sep 20th 2008 11:19 am

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Jules Europe (Post 6804338)
...meaning they want qualified people such as Doctors, Engineers or even just people with university degrees to go there but often the work they do is not there for them, or when it is there well their quals are not recognized. This has often been the case for people from less developed countries. In effect they want highly qualified people to stack shelves, drive taxis etc.

The idea now in Canada is to change all this and make recognition of these Quals accessible and to match people with the current job demands.

I see your point.

Problem is that many of these professions are regulated at the provincial level; they decide, not the Feds.

I recall in 1966 being operated for a burst appendix problem. The doctor was a Nigerian. He was excellent. In retrospect I don't know how he got in because many professionals from third world countries go through the hoop. Yet they can be 100 times better than their Caucasian counterparts.

Jules Europe Sep 20th 2008 11:50 am

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by montreal mike (Post 6804369)
I see your point.

Problem is that many of these professions are regulated at the provincial level; they decide, not the Feds.

I recall in 1966 being operated for a burst appendix problem. The doctor was a Nigerian. He was excellent. In retrospect I don't know how he got in because many professionals from third world countries go through the hoop. Yet they can be 100 times better than their Caucasian counterparts.

This has been the issue quite often for a Doctor from say an African country, that may well have the correct credentials and be excellent in his field. Problem is though, he is let down by the fact that almost anybody in these countries can buy their qualifications, meaning an un-qualified doctor can practice. Often seen a few cases like this in the UK where a Doctor has been revealed as not being suitably qualified. It seems like Canada in this instance just doesn`t want to take the chance.

Alberta_Rose Sep 20th 2008 12:50 pm

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Patrick2007 (Post 6804288)
doesnt make sense weres the Canadians?

The unemployment rate in Calgary is about 3%. Most people who want a job have one! ... and there are still plenty left for "immigrants"

Patrick2007 Sep 20th 2008 1:05 pm

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Morwenna (Post 6804510)
The unemployment rate in Calgary is about 3%. Most people who want a job have one! ... and there are still plenty left for "immigrants"

U will have to broaden that one a job paying what exactly?

Alberta_Rose Sep 20th 2008 4:07 pm

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Patrick2007 (Post 6804540)
U will have to broaden that one a job paying what exactly?

Get off my back. I didn't say they were all well-paid. :rolleyes:

I come into regular contact with the "working poor" in my line of work. There are also homeless employed and unemployed, and the unemployable. Some people hold down more than one job and still struggle.

There is a hell of a lot of stinking riche also in this fair city. Who said life was fair?

In addition to that the employment laws are very poor here, IMHO, and biased towards the employer. It's just that (unlike some places) we don't have high unemployment to add to that ubiquitous misery!

Patrick2007 Sep 21st 2008 1:56 am

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Morwenna (Post 6804799)
Get off my back. I didn't say they were all well-paid. :rolleyes:

I come into regular contact with the "working poor" in my line of work. There are also homeless employed and unemployed, and the unemployable. Some people hold down more than one job and still struggle.

There is a hell of a lot of stinking riche also in this fair city. Who said life was fair?

In addition to that the employment laws are very poor here, IMHO, and biased towards the employer. It's just that (unlike some places) we don't have high unemployment to add to that ubiquitous misery!

So Canada is poaching for drivers to go over and struggle on shit money its senseless.

valerie bell Sep 21st 2008 3:35 am

Re: Bus Drivers is this right?
 

Originally Posted by Patrick2007 (Post 6803490)
Is Canada really looking for Bus Drivers from the U.K.? I would of thought that to be an unskilled line of work? Does anyone know what the requirements are age etc? This sounds too good to be true.

I live in Calgary, and I know that they are looking for bus drivers. You can try their website at www.calgarytransit.com. Good Luck


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