'British style' plastering
Sep 29th 2006, 10:27 am
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by Dying to leave England
Not normally - the joints of the plasterboard are "filled" and, whilst a "skim" is sometimes applied, it is not the type of skim that you are probably imagining (the "silver" coloured one that is 2-3 mm thick).
Once the joints are filled they are usually just sanded and left for the decorators to finish.
This is how it was 15 years ago when I stopped being a chippie but I can't imagine that the basic principle has changed all that much
Once the joints are filled they are usually just sanded and left for the decorators to finish.
This is how it was 15 years ago when I stopped being a chippie but I can't imagine that the basic principle has changed all that much
Sep 29th 2006, 10:32 am
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by Dying to leave England
That very much depends on the skill of the plasterer. I would say that average compared against average, a dry walled wall will be much more straight and true than a plastered one. Whilst walls may look straight, when you put something straight against them you will be amazed just how crooked they actually are. At least with "plasterboard walls" they should at least be straight along the length and width of each individual sheet - that's the theory at least 
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:scared:I agree anyone can drywall well if they are good at DIY. I used 90 sheets of 10x4 ft) refurbishing and converting out last house. I a pretty slow at plastering and took me a few weeks to plaster one room once.
Sep 29th 2006, 10:36 am
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by Majj
These days Architects usually require the joints to be taped and filled and then a skim coat plaster over the lot. THis has been happening for the last 6/7 years. But yes before that it used to be either tape and fill joints or skim coat.
Sep 29th 2006, 10:39 am
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by hudd
I agree it depends on the skill of your plasterer. In Suffolk I had a retired plasterer do my old house, he was slow, but really good.
I agree anyone can drywall well if they are good at DIY. I used 90 sheets of 10x4 ft) refurbishing and converting out last house. I a pretty slow at plastering and took me a few weeks to plaster one room once.
I agree anyone can drywall well if they are good at DIY. I used 90 sheets of 10x4 ft) refurbishing and converting out last house. I a pretty slow at plastering and took me a few weeks to plaster one room once.
Sep 29th 2006, 10:43 am
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by hudd
I agree it depends on the skill of your plasterer. In Suffolk I had a retired plasterer do my old house, he was slow, but really good.
I agree anyone can drywall well if they are good at DIY. I used 90 sheets of 10x4 ft) refurbishing and converting out last house. I a pretty slow at plastering and took me a few weeks to plaster one room once.
I agree anyone can drywall well if they are good at DIY. I used 90 sheets of 10x4 ft) refurbishing and converting out last house. I a pretty slow at plastering and took me a few weeks to plaster one room once.
The thickest plaster I've seen was around 30mm thick to get the walls square. THis was to some Almshouses in Brixton, London. The contractor had to get dehumiderfiers in dry out the rooms!
Sep 29th 2006, 10:45 am
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by Dying to leave England
I remember my old carpentry tutor at college saying something to the effect of, "..Brickies work to the nearest brick, plasterers work to the nearest inch, carpenters work to the nearest 1/8 inch (second fix) and the decorators make all that have gone before them look good"
Sep 29th 2006, 12:05 pm
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Re: 'British style' plastering
We have plaster walls and ceilings in both Toronto and Mississauga. Repairing them's a problem.
The house in Mississauga was built in 1957 and may be one of the last with proper walls. The ceilings there are patterned so when the cable guy put his foot through the neighbour's one the insurance company replaced the whole thing (the room's maybe 25' square) with drywall rather than pay for a plasterer who could do swirls.
When we moved into the house in Toronto the living room ceiling had been pebbledashed over the plaster and had a large crack in it; we took it down causing a spectacular mess of horse hair and plaster dust. I didn't want to get into the whole stilts thing so I replaced the ceiling with tin. Bizarrely, now that we're selling the house, the tin ceiling born of laziness and lack of balance has become an architectural feature.
The house in Mississauga was built in 1957 and may be one of the last with proper walls. The ceilings there are patterned so when the cable guy put his foot through the neighbour's one the insurance company replaced the whole thing (the room's maybe 25' square) with drywall rather than pay for a plasterer who could do swirls.
When we moved into the house in Toronto the living room ceiling had been pebbledashed over the plaster and had a large crack in it; we took it down causing a spectacular mess of horse hair and plaster dust. I didn't want to get into the whole stilts thing so I replaced the ceiling with tin. Bizarrely, now that we're selling the house, the tin ceiling born of laziness and lack of balance has become an architectural feature.
Sep 29th 2006, 12:39 pm
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by dbd33
We have plaster walls and ceilings in both Toronto and Mississauga. Repairing them's a problem.
The house in Mississauga was built in 1957 and may be one of the last with proper walls. The ceilings there are patterned so when the cable guy put his foot through the neighbour's one the insurance company replaced the whole thing (the room's maybe 25' square) with drywall rather than pay for a plasterer who could do swirls.
When we moved into the house in Toronto the living room ceiling had been pebbledashed over the plaster and had a large crack in it; we took it down causing a spectacular mess of horse hair and plaster dust. I didn't want to get into the whole stilts thing so I replaced the ceiling with tin. Bizarrely, now that we're selling the house, the tin ceiling born of laziness and lack of balance has become an architectural feature.
The house in Mississauga was built in 1957 and may be one of the last with proper walls. The ceilings there are patterned so when the cable guy put his foot through the neighbour's one the insurance company replaced the whole thing (the room's maybe 25' square) with drywall rather than pay for a plasterer who could do swirls.
When we moved into the house in Toronto the living room ceiling had been pebbledashed over the plaster and had a large crack in it; we took it down causing a spectacular mess of horse hair and plaster dust. I didn't want to get into the whole stilts thing so I replaced the ceiling with tin. Bizarrely, now that we're selling the house, the tin ceiling born of laziness and lack of balance has become an architectural feature.
Sep 29th 2006, 12:44 pm
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by Canada2006
A tin ceiling? Does that look like I'm imagining it to??? Metallic fashion?
Sep 29th 2006, 12:48 pm
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by dbd33
It's made up of panels. They're quite popular in Canada, the US and, I think, South Africa.
Sep 29th 2006, 1:29 pm
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by dbd33
It's made up of panels. They're quite popular in Canada, the US and, I think, South Africa.
Sep 29th 2006, 1:33 pm
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by Souvenir
Is that glued or nailed?
Sep 29th 2006, 1:44 pm
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by dbd33
Nailed. Much more elaborate examples here: http://www.tinceilings.ca/
I'm not sure if I like that or not. It has a certain "pubby" feel about it. Still, it has be better than stucco <spits>.
Sep 29th 2006, 1:57 pm
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by Souvenir
Hmmmmmm.
I'm not sure if I like that or not. It has a certain "pubby" feel about it. Still, it has be better than stucco <spits>.
I'm not sure if I like that or not. It has a certain "pubby" feel about it. Still, it has be better than stucco <spits>.
Sep 29th 2006, 3:45 pm
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Re: 'British style' plastering
Originally Posted by Dying to leave England
New houses are virtually all dry walled now - very rare to see plaster - which is why if you try to fix anything to an external wall - you hit 1/2 an inch of space after you have gone through the plaster board 