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Old Jul 30th 2008 | 7:11 am
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Me thinks that a medic would know!!! There are obvious tale tale signs. Best to say you have given up smoking.

So why lie?

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Old Jul 30th 2008 | 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by robert_masters
Me thinks that a medic would know!!! There are obvious tale tale signs. Best to say you have given up smoking.

So why lie?

Angela
Aren't you advocating lying?

Anyway, smoking is not a drain on the health system as smokers pay more tax and die sooner. Smoking makes an immigrant more financially attractive, not less.
 
Old Jul 30th 2008 | 7:22 am
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Originally Posted by seanyg
Any lung problems would be picked up on the x-ray. However, anyone can lie and say they don't smoke - no-one would know they're lying unless they have any conditions arising from their smoking. Then they could get into Canada, keep smoking and possibly develop a condition later in life. Or someone could genuinely be a non-smoker / ex-smoker, and once in Canada decide they want to start smoking or want to pick up the habit again.

Who can tell if someone really is a smoker? (assuming they don't have the tell-tale signs of yellow fingers and smelly clothes, of course)

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I'm not in the medical field, but a doctor friend told my husband and me that he could tell from an X-Ray if a person had smoked in the past. This came up in conversation, because my husband had smoked during his twenties. By the time we were having this chat with our doctor friend, it had been some years (maybe ten years?) since my husband had given up smoking. But our doctor friend said that, at that point, the effects of my husband's former smoking habit still would show up on an X-Ray.

I don't know how long the visible effects last. That is, supposing my husband had an X-Ray today, when 15+ additional years have passed since that conversation. Would a doctor still be able to tell from an X-Ray that my husband, now in his late fifties, smoked in his twenties? I don't know.

When we lived in Houston, a friend of ours showed us lungs from two pigs. One was the lung of a normal pig, and the other was the lung of a pig that had been subjected to smoking by a machine. She had obtained the two pigs' lungs to help out a teacher at her son's school, who wanted to use them in a science project that he was doing with her son's class.

I can tell you that the two lungs looked dramatically different from each other. I'm absolutely certain that, if X-Rays had been taken of the two lungs, even I would have been able to tell the difference. But admittedly, the pig that had been forced to smoke had been forced to do so from the time that it was weaned to the time that it died.
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Old Jul 30th 2008 | 7:24 am
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Old Jul 30th 2008 | 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by robert_masters
Judy!!
I guess We'll have to sit it out and wait and take our chances. Seems mad though something can't be done prior. Surely something can be done? I cannot believe it, knowingly we'll possibly go through all that process/expense and finding out we may/mayn't pass on a medical for whatever reason. Along with the other factors.

You have to pay your money and take your pick. If the Canadian system isn't for you, you need to find one that is. It seems crazy to me that you have allowed yourself to be subjected to their rules, but state that the rules are unfair

Originally Posted by robert_masters
I guess that's the beauty of waiting for PR before moving!!

What do others' classify as a drain on the system?? How deep do people want to go, we as a society have to be careful about being too prejudice. What are social norms these days??

Away thanks for the info!!

Angela
The annual limits have been discussed ad nauseum in the immigration forum. A quick search will reveal all.

It has little to do with prejudice, but lots to do with complying with their rules. (Un)fortunately, Canada is sovereign when it comes to deciding who it does and doesn't allow to come and live here. Them's the rules.
 
Old Jul 30th 2008 | 7:41 am
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Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
I'm not in the medical field, but a doctor friend told my husband and me that he could tell from an X-Ray if a person had smoked in the past. This came up in conversation, because my husband had smoked during his twenties. By the time we were having this chat with our doctor friend, it had been some years (maybe ten years?) since my husband had given up smoking. But our doctor friend said that, at that point, the effects of my husband's former smoking habit still would show up on an X-Ray.

I don't know how long the visible effects last. That is, supposing my husband had an X-Ray today, when 15+ additional years have passed since that conversation. Would a doctor still be able to tell from an X-Ray that my husband, now in his late fifties, smoked in his twenties? I don't know.

When we lived in Houston, a friend of ours showed us lungs from two pigs. One was the lung of a normal pig, and the other was the lung of a pig that had been subjected to smoking by a machine. She had obtained the two pigs' lungs to help out a teacher at her son's school, who wanted to use them in a science project that he was doing with her son's class.

I can tell you that the two lungs looked dramatically different from each other. I'm absolutely certain that, if X-Rays had been taken of the two lungs, even I would have been able to tell the difference. But admittedly, the pig that had been forced to smoke had been forced to do so from the time that it was weaned to the time that it died.
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Ah, poor pig! But surely a non-smoker who lives with a smoker or who is subject to passive smoking could look (on an x-ray) like a smoker too, presumably?
 

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