Before Anyone start supporting US. Please read this.
#16
Originally posted by MCannon
If it is on the internet it must be absolutely true.
I also read that there is a 3 headed baby born somewhere in LA.
To compare Sadaam and Bush is bordering on lunacy. I am the last person to defend the US or what it is doing, but I think this is stretching it a bit too far. Opinions are important, but they are not fact.
If it is on the internet it must be absolutely true.
I also read that there is a 3 headed baby born somewhere in LA.
To compare Sadaam and Bush is bordering on lunacy. I am the last person to defend the US or what it is doing, but I think this is stretching it a bit too far. Opinions are important, but they are not fact.
#17
Originally posted by joebloggs
I abhor the death penalty...but the fact that you choose to draw a moral equivalence between it and what Saddam has done in Iraq speaks far more eloquently about your mentality than I could ever do.
I abhor the death penalty...but the fact that you choose to draw a moral equivalence between it and what Saddam has done in Iraq speaks far more eloquently about your mentality than I could ever do.
Iraqis don't seem to have a problem with Hussein's morals.
They're not running out and welcoming the troops with open arms and the Iraq army is neither surrendering or rebelling against him.
But the Iraqi people do seem to have a problem with the USA and so do neighbouring Arab and Moslem countries.
So tell me again about Bush's moral superiority! It seems that others do not find it acceptable.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by flashman
Iraqis don't seem to have a problem with Hussein's morals.
The stupidity of that remark is quite something. For every single month that Saddam has been in power (for well over twenty years now) he has been, on average, responsible for the deaths of over 5000 of his own people. And you say they don't have a problem with his morals! If this is the level of your argument then I'm going to leave this post alone for you to pollute with your smug superiour anti-americanisms.
Iraqis don't seem to have a problem with Hussein's morals.
The stupidity of that remark is quite something. For every single month that Saddam has been in power (for well over twenty years now) he has been, on average, responsible for the deaths of over 5000 of his own people. And you say they don't have a problem with his morals! If this is the level of your argument then I'm going to leave this post alone for you to pollute with your smug superiour anti-americanisms.
#19
Originally posted by flashman
Iraqis don't seem to have a problem with Hussein's morals.
They're not running out and welcoming the troops with open arms and the Iraq army is neither surrendering or rebelling against him.
But the Iraqi people do seem to have a problem with the USA and so do neighbouring Arab and Moslem countries.
So tell me again about Bush's moral superiority! It seems that others do not find it acceptable.
Iraqis don't seem to have a problem with Hussein's morals.
They're not running out and welcoming the troops with open arms and the Iraq army is neither surrendering or rebelling against him.
But the Iraqi people do seem to have a problem with the USA and so do neighbouring Arab and Moslem countries.
So tell me again about Bush's moral superiority! It seems that others do not find it acceptable.
How long before Saddam becomes one of the darlings of the left like Stalin, Castro, Hugo Chavez, et al?
#20
Originally posted by TimEh?
No, you're right, the the Iraqi army is doing really well right now. What IS your news source by the way. The Baghdad Times?
How long before Saddam becomes one of the darlings of the left like Stalin, Castro, Hugo Chavez, et al?
No, you're right, the the Iraqi army is doing really well right now. What IS your news source by the way. The Baghdad Times?
How long before Saddam becomes one of the darlings of the left like Stalin, Castro, Hugo Chavez, et al?
I was merely pointing out that the Iraqis are not behaving according to the coalition propaganda. Although the Iraq army is losing they are not surrendering en masse and the Iraqi people are not rejoicing with welcoming arms. Also the Arabs and Moslems resent the interference and are volunteering to serve in Iraq.
Also I haven't read or seen any reports about finding weapons of mass destruction.
So are there any more fairy stories the war supporters would like to offer?
This naive clumsy colonial invasion will have repercussions for years into the future including more recruits for Al Qaeda.
I would have thought that Hussein would be a hero of the right along with Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and Bush. After all the Fascist fanatics like to refer to him by his first name.
Last edited by flashman; Apr 3rd 2003 at 3:51 am.
#21
Originally posted by flashman
I would have thought that Hussein would be a hero of the right along with Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and Bush. After all the Fascist fanatics like to refer to him by his first name.
I would have thought that Hussein would be a hero of the right along with Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and Bush. After all the Fascist fanatics like to refer to him by his first name.
#22
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I would have thought that Hussein would be a hero of the right along with Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and Bush. After all the Fascist fanatics like to refer to him by his first name. [/QUOTE]
..hmmm not 100% sure but I believe that its the correct thing to do. In the west we have personal name/family name (eg Fred Jones) I believe in Arabic world its not the same (so saying Saddam is correct use of name) Anyway could be wrong...
ps hope you're not referring to people who disagree with you as being ....
..hmmm not 100% sure but I believe that its the correct thing to do. In the west we have personal name/family name (eg Fred Jones) I believe in Arabic world its not the same (so saying Saddam is correct use of name) Anyway could be wrong...
ps hope you're not referring to people who disagree with you as being ....
#23
Originally posted by TimEh?
Are you suggesting that Hitler, Mussolini and Franco are heroes of today's right?
Are you suggesting that Hitler, Mussolini and Franco are heroes of today's right?
"(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)
Fascism noun [U]
a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control and extreme pride in country and race, and in which political opposition is not allowed
fascist noun [C]
1 someone who supports fascism
2 a person of the far right in politics
3 DISAPPROVING someone who does not allow any opposition:"
Seems to be a fair definition describing some present politicians
#24
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From: recently back in the UK

fascist noun [C]
1 someone who supports fascism
2 a person of the far right in politics
3 DISAPPROVING someone who does not allow any opposition:"
Seems to be a fair definition describing some present politicians [/QUOTE]
which ones did you have in mind? Name some names here, or was it just general innuendo?
1 someone who supports fascism
2 a person of the far right in politics
3 DISAPPROVING someone who does not allow any opposition:"
Seems to be a fair definition describing some present politicians [/QUOTE]
which ones did you have in mind? Name some names here, or was it just general innuendo?
#25
Originally posted by BigBill
fascist noun [C]
1 someone who supports fascism
2 a person of the far right in politics
3 DISAPPROVING someone who does not allow any opposition:"
Seems to be a fair definition describing some present politicians
fascist noun [C]
1 someone who supports fascism
2 a person of the far right in politics
3 DISAPPROVING someone who does not allow any opposition:"
Seems to be a fair definition describing some present politicians
which ones did you have in mind? Name some names here, or was it just general innuendo? [/QUOTE]
Take alook at
http://cryptome.org/rad.htm
and pick your own
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From: recently back in the UK

Originally posted by flashman
which ones did you have in mind? Name some names here, or was it just general innuendo?
which ones did you have in mind? Name some names here, or was it just general innuendo?
http://cryptome.org/rad.htm
and pick your own [/QUOTE]
Well that was all very interesting, but I think I missed the part about how they were shutting down political parties in the USA....oh wait, unless of course you were engaging in hyperbole..
#27
Well that was all very interesting, but I think I missed the part about how they were shutting down political parties in the USA....oh wait, unless of course you were engaging in hyperbole.. [/QUOTE]
Don't have to shut down political parties to dissaprove opposition. Just have to use propaganda and distortions to stifle dissent.
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From: recently back in the UK

Originally posted by flashman
Well that was all very interesting, but I think I missed the part about how they were shutting down political parties in the USA....oh wait, unless of course you were engaging in hyperbole..
Well that was all very interesting, but I think I missed the part about how they were shutting down political parties in the USA....oh wait, unless of course you were engaging in hyperbole..
Don't have to shut down political parties to dissaprove opposition. Just have to use propaganda and distortions to stifle dissent. [/QUOTE]
I think you need to lie down, and put a damp cloth on your forehead...or maybe a damp copy of the 'globe and mail'
#29
Originally posted by BigBill
I think you need to lie down, and put a damp cloth on your forehead...or maybe a damp copy of the 'globe and mail'
I think you need to lie down, and put a damp cloth on your forehead...or maybe a damp copy of the 'globe and mail'
#30
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Originally posted by flashman
Iraqis don't seem to have a problem with Hussein's morals.
They're not running out and welcoming the troops with open arms and the Iraq army is neither surrendering or rebelling against him.
Iraqis don't seem to have a problem with Hussein's morals.
They're not running out and welcoming the troops with open arms and the Iraq army is neither surrendering or rebelling against him.
This is a report from todays Telegraph...
'The villagers of Gul Ashab paid a terrible price yesterday for the welcome they have shown to British forces distributing aid in the newly liberated village.
On wednesday the entire village, just outside Basra, had gathered to thank the Queens Dragoon Guards as they handed out much needed food and water.
But early yesterday the centre of the village ws in flames after an artillery and mortar attack by Iraqi militia groups.
Nine shells fell on the village, taking the leg of one pregnant women and injuring several others in what appears to have been a deliberate attempt by militia forces to lure British forces into an ambush...'





